well vici u wanted a challenge with new update

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

Must be a slow fall. 9+ months of wined TW and we're still #1.


The 6 months map reset basically screwed Vicious over. Not only does it mean no one will attack us, but it also means we can't landlock any faction anymore. I remember distinctly here before the Genesis expansion came out that we finally, after about 2 months of planning, landlocked QQme so that the only faction they could wage war on was Vicious. Otherwise they will have no wars.

But luckily for QQme map reset changed all that. And the 6 months reset just doesn't make any sense for anyone to attack the dominant faction and basically be guaranteed a **** and a losing, whereas they could just attack other factions and have fun and maybe a chance to win as well.

Vicious already served its purpose to be the top faction in RT. But all great things must come to an end. So I wonder when that end will be.

I remember Vicious playing dirty, losing TW on purpose and breaking the tw rules to land lock QQme. To sad that gm dint do nothing about that.

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide

Too bad the Gms didn't do anything about all the QQme fake bids on Vicious
Too bad the Gms didn't do anything about all the Wined TW that QQme did
Too bad ReVrEhYsIOmA is a QQme fan boi
Too bad the Gms don't disband Vicious
Too bad most of the good players left RT
Too bad RT is populated by mostly bad players
Too bad RT is full of Bronies
Too bad Rt dosen't have enough Bronies
Too bad the Gms don't add more Bronies
Too bad the Gms don't remove more Bronies
Too bad the Gms don't do more in game
Too bad the Gms don't do less in game
Too bad packs killed the game
Too bad hyper fc killed the game
Too bad sins killed the game
Too bad packs made the game awesome
Too bad hyper fc made the game more fun
Too bad sins are awesome
Too bad this game is dead
Too bad the Gms don't do more about forum trolls
Too bad the Gms can't fix this game
Too bad there are people that think they can save RT
Too bad the Gms can't make life fair
Too bad you wasted your time to read this whole post

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »

Too bad the Gms didn't do anything about all the QQme fake bids on Vicious
Too bad the Gms didn't do anything about all the Wined TW that QQme did
Too bad ReVrEhYsIOmA is a QQme fan boi
Too bad the Gms don't disband Vicious
Too bad most of the good players left RT
Too bad RT is populated by mostly bad players
Too bad RT is full of Bronies
Too bad Rt dosen't have enough Bronies
Too bad the Gms don't add more Bronies
Too bad the Gms don't remove more Bronies
Too bad the Gms don't do more in game
Too bad the Gms don't do less in game
Too bad packs killed the game
Too bad hyper fc killed the game
Too bad sins killed the game
Too bad packs made the game awesome
Too bad hyper fc made the game more fun
Too bad sins are awesome
Too bad this game is dead
Too bad the Gms don't do more about forum trolls
Too bad the Gms can't fix this game
Too bad there are people that think they can save RT
Too bad the Gms can't make life fair
Too bad you wasted your time to read this whole post

This.

And @ReVr QQme has done more than at least 2-3 times more dirty/underhanded things to all factions over the land when they were dominant. And not only "illegal" things too.

Bladed_Tony - Raging Tide

ReVr.. i agree vicious does some dirty tactics.. but QQme has to be the front runner when it comes to dirty tactics.. and they will probably go down as the dirtiest faction in rt unless vicious does something extremely horrible b4 (they decide to breakup/pwi gets shut down)

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

This.

And @ReVr QQme has done more than at least 2-3 times more dirty/underhanded things to all factions over the land when they were dominant. And not only "illegal" things too.

what those so dirty tactics and illegal things? Of course a vici will say qqme do it worse. But the old QQme is Vicious. Vicious have more old qqmes that the same QQme.
But...

Did QQme is playing dirt ? No, name one thing on these 6 months and not those old things that was the same vici members when they was in the old qqme.

But why vicious is playing dirt?Because was the same one on the old qqme.

Is not the name or a icon, is the people thta make a faction, and vicious is the old qqme.

death0406

The only thing Spell_Caster ever says is that they have fun TW's against the smaller factions. It seems to me that we should not have to see QQme trying to recruit then so therefore they dont grow stronger. That way QQme can stay a smaller faction with the same mediocre dreams and aspirations the other smaller factions have.b:bye

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

@ReVr Maybe that's why some people in QQme that could not tolerate how it was run split off and now there's a better faction called Zoo that decided to take things into their own hands. I'm not anti-QQme, and have never been. It's always been individuals in there that changed how the faction was like, both for people in it, used to be in it, and out of it. Unlike you, I don't judge people just by the faction above their name.

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

@ReVr Maybe that's why some people in QQme that could not tolerate how it was run split off and now there's a better faction called Zoo that decided to take things into their own hands. I'm not anti-QQme, and have never been. It's always been individuals in there that changed how the faction was like, both for people in it, used to be in it, and out of it. Unlike you, I don't judge people just by the faction above their name.

Your are judging faction because the name, maybe if we change the name and icon your perspective could be different. For example Zoo there many ex-qqme there but since says zoo and not qqme things are different, same goes for vicious the faction with the most old qqmes but says vici and not qqme things are image perspective are different but still doing the same things has the old qqme.

Epros - Raging Tide

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide wrote: »

Your are judging faction because the name, maybe if we change the name and icon your perspective could be different. For example Zoo there many ex-qqme there but since says zoo and not qqme things are different, same goes for vicious the faction with the most old qqmes but says vici and not qqme things are image perspective are different but still doing the same things has the old qqme.

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DirtySouth - Raging Tide

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide wrote: »

Your are judging faction because the name, maybe if we change the name and icon your perspective could be different. For example Zoo there many ex-qqme there but since says zoo and not qqme things are different, same goes for vicious the faction with the most old qqmes but says vici and not qqme things are image perspective are different but still doing the same things has the old qqme.

lol What? yo no compriendo

Bladed_Tony - Raging Tide

many times when a member leaves a guild they dont carry the same values of the officers from their old guild.. and thats all qqme was.. officers that condoned the dirty tactics..
and thats the only group of ppl that either stayed in qqme or left the game entirely..

ppl tend to pick up on the values and rules of a new faction.. especially when ur just one click away from being kicked out of the guild..

Brillance - Raging Tide

DirtySouth - Raging Tide wrote: »

lol What? yo no compriendo

He said leopards dont change their spots, no matter what nameplate they have hanging from their collars.

He's probably right. Most people dont change who they are simply because they moved to a different neighborhood. *shrugs*

I would just like to note that for newbs like me, this history lesson is not all THAT important. b:chuckle

Its more like an, "OK, so we over it nao?" O.o

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide

Brill I'm going to have to disagree about the history lesson of RT isn't important. People who ignore history are doomed to repete it, and you have to understand where you have been in order to know where you are going(meaning the server).

Brillance - Raging Tide

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »

Brill I'm going to have to disagree about the history lesson of RT isn't important. People who ignore history are doomed to repete it, and you have to understand where you have been in order to know where you are going(meaning the server).

I agree with you zarkin, history is constantly repeating itself as we speak.

I didnt say the lesson wasnt important at all, but its seriously not all that important to anyone new, mainly because it is before their time. They werent here 3 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago...and all they are really learning is big factions are 'not nice' people.

For example, people say QQme is worse than Vicious. I remember when QQme was said to be 'R9 only', but other than that, I dont really remember anything all that gawd aweful being said about them. I'll give you, I might not have been paying attention.

But, in my history, I do have Vicious & QQme. And all I have experienced so far comes down to watching one become what they are said to be against (whatever THAT could possibly be *shrugs*).

I joined QQme, and just like when I was in Levi, at the period of time when I was in either, there were nice people in both.

There were also not so nice people in both. I even had one guy who had been trolling me and my country the entire time I was in Levi follow me from faction to faction for a while, to troll me some more. I also had another person I knew from Levi, and I felt was a friend, who had joined Vici, do some 'not nice' things to me ingame for no reason I can think of. Naturally, I now see them as 'not nice' peeps.

I had good TWs in Levi, even though it would never be the best faction, that I had aspired to joining, again. I appologize to Wizzie, Granny and all former core members of Levi for imagining that could be possible; but I was a newb, and didnt understand the cards had been dealt already, and those cards didnt want to be changed out.

TWs were boring in QQme after a few. And, I would say here and now it was a wise move to wine battles with Vicious, cause who the heck wants to log on, stand around Lost for an hour, and then go get rolled in 5 to 15 minutes repeatedly anyway. Seriously, that was destined by circumstance, and you cant blame any officer for doing whats best 'mentally' for their faction.

When it comes to TW, what fun is there for anyone in either rolling or being rolled repeatedly?

Anyway, you appear equal now. It's time for some new history from both sides, IF you guys plan on being around to make it. Otherwise, as time and the game progresses, said history will be come little more than a distant memory for some. Happens in every game.

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide

I'm going to pull out and disagree with the "wine TW for mental health reasons" because I feel thats the most important. First off I don't think that got QQme very far, at least thats what it looks like to me. At the start of Vicious we got rolled by QQme in 5-15 min every time. We still showed up, and we would even have to fight to get spots because we had so many sign up. Everyone had charms, apoth, blessing, what ever we could bring knowing that it was going to be a 5 min roll. Did some people cry about it? Yes. Did some people rage quit? Yes. But the core members who knew the deal stayed and improved, both in gear and in game knowledge. The rest is history and I don't need to go over that. Now lets take a look at QQme. OH how the mighty have fallen. No need to go over the fall of QQme because thats plain for all to see. Now QQme wined Vicious many time for many "reasons". They said it was a waste of apoth/charm/def charms/ what ever. They said wine them so they get so bored they all quit. They said wine Vicious because if we get rolled we will lose people. Dosen't look like that way of thinking has gotten QQme very far. The hardest steel is forged in the hottest fire. Vicious was born from the fires of TW. QQme broke under the heat of our flame. Now the server burns because of us. But like all fires once the fuel is consumed it will die out and turn to ash. Wonder how long that will take. Im sure the second waring of the guilds will speed that up, but I see a long prolonged death song for Vicious.

Revenge - Raging Tide

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide wrote: »

what those so dirty tactics and illegal things? Of course a vici will say qqme do it worse. But the old QQme is Vicious. Vicious have more old qqmes that the same QQme.
But...

Did QQme is playing dirt ? No, name one thing on these 6 months and not those old things that was the same vici members when they was in the old qqme.

But why vicious is playing dirt?Because was the same one on the old qqme.

Is not the name or a icon, is the people thta make a faction, and vicious is the old qqme.

lawl yousofunny. actually zoo has more ex QQme than any faction for one. and last 6months? you mean after they died off? yeah how about we go back to when they were on top and vicious was up and coming we can name off plenty of dirty tactics from then that they did. as far as why vicious is playing dirty because we're old qqme, are you completly ****? the ex qqme members that we do have, dont now, nor ever have called shots in vicious. the "dirty" tactics you claim we do are A, primarily exaggerated up by spell in an attempt to make us look bad, and B, exaggerated by other anti vicious people who litterally just jump bandwagons to hate on whatever faction is the top because they arent a part of it. i can name off so many people who were anti qqme before, and now since theyve fallen act as if qqme is a god send while vicious is evil when they previously cheered vicious on.

and sorry but, 8 ex qqme is not the majority of 150 people so you cant really call us old qqme.

Aedos - Raging Tide

Revenge - Raging Tide wrote: »

lawl yousofunny. actually zoo has more ex QQme than any faction for one. and last 6months? you mean after they died off? yeah how about we go back to when they were on top and vicious was up and coming we can name off plenty of dirty tactics from then that they did. as far as why vicious is playing dirty because we're old qqme, are you completly ****? the ex qqme members that we do have, dont now, nor ever have called shots in vicious. the "dirty" tactics you claim we do are A, primarily exaggerated up by spell in an attempt to make us look bad, and B, exaggerated by other anti vicious people who litterally just jump bandwagons to hate on whatever faction is the top because they arent a part of it. i can name off so many people who were anti qqme before, and now since theyve fallen act as if qqme is a god send while vicious is evil when they previously cheered vicious on.

and sorry but, 8 ex qqme is not the majority of 150 people so you cant really call us old qqme.

I'm somewhat guilty of this, however I'm still not a fan of QQme. When QQme was reining in RT I was a fan of the underdog Vici side, I was even in Vici long ago on my barb, most members of QQme were arrogant and they would do anything to get more land on the map even if it was looked down upon. But lately Vici has seemed to change a little bit at least in my opinion, a lot of insults are being thrown around by their members, insulting the whole server how they are too "scared" and how they are carebears or whatever. People I know and myself have been trolled on how we play the game and it just gives a bad image to me of Vici. Even my faction Wanted has been at the end of insults about how they are pve only and a bunch of carebears when all were doing is just trying to have fun and stay out of the trolling wars. This has nothing to do with who is on top in my opinion just a lot of members representing their faction in a bad way.

Lecus - Lost City

Meh doesn't help when you can't carry out a simple action either that would take less time then it did for that paragraph. Which was said month back would happen.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

The thing is Aedos.... when a faction is just that nice, who in their mind would attack a friend? An ally?

That was the image Vicious created, and over time no one really hated us except for QQme. Now that we bested them, our power is more or less absolute, and with the reputation we obtained back then, which was completely opposite that of QQme, people liked us.

But over time, Vicious can get bored doing nothing. All I can see from the "insults" thrown around from Vicious members is that they want to provoke people to attacking them so that they can have fun again. From what I can see, none of those insults have any true intent of degrading the person the insults are aimed at. I've been with these members for well over 15 months now, and I know how they really are. I don't see any true ill-will in these insults.

But maybe I'm just another Vicious member.

Elvenne - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

The thing is Aedos.... when a faction is just that nice, who in their mind would attack a friend? An ally?

That was the image Vicious created, and over time no one really hated us except for QQme. Now that we bested them, our power is more or less absolute, and with the reputation we obtained back then, which was completely opposite that of QQme, people liked us.

But over time, Vicious can get bored doing nothing. All I can see from the "insults" thrown around from Vicious members is that they want to provoke people to attacking them so that they can have fun again. From what I can see, none of those insults have any true intent of degrading the person the insults are aimed at. I've been with these members for well over 15 months now, and I know how they really are. I don't see any true ill-will in these insults.

But maybe I'm just another Vicious member.

No No No They are Afraid of our R9+12 Demon Sparkers and they WILL BE FOREVER

Haha_dude - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

The thing is Aedos.... when a faction is just that nice, who in their mind would attack a friend? An ally?

That was the image Vicious created, and over time no one really hated us except for QQme. Now that we bested them, our power is more or less absolute, and with the reputation we obtained back then, which was completely opposite that of QQme, people liked us.

But over time, Vicious can get bored doing nothing. All I can see from the "insults" thrown around from Vicious members is that they want to provoke people to attacking them so that they can have fun again. From what I can see, none of those insults have any true intent of degrading the person the insults are aimed at. I've been with these members for well over 15 months now, and I know how they really are. I don't see any true ill-will in these insults.

But maybe I'm just another Vicious member.

I think the "old QQme" will use that same excuse now b:surrender

Truth is, there is no excuse for being a .l. and thats that. every faction has one and its unavoidable like the seasonal flu.

I think you guys need a better way to force QQme to fight.. this.. QQing/provation isnt working.. rather it's giving them satisfaction that you guys are QQing so hard about it. You've done it to Zoo, do it to QQme from first week of tw. or kill off their competition - wanted.

DO SOMETHING instead of whining like little tards and insulting the whole server about it.

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

Anti-vici Troll protection activated . ^

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide

@ Haha_Dude: I think you'r painting with too broad of a brush. Plus this is a PvE server so there is no real way to make someone fight you. At this point I'm fine with the 5-15 min, it dosen't bother me anymore. I accept that factions won't improve to fight us and thats fine. I'm fine when pk only lasts 5 min, because at 30k hp one charm tick is 15k so it can kill a charm fast. I understand why some people chose trash talking other people/factions/server into fighting them. I think we thought most factions would do the same as we did. Come together, stand as one and defeat the top faction. That didn't happen so some of us are trying anything to get people to fight us. And calling all us all QQing tards is a bit of a strech. I mostly come on here to give my opinion on the subject and to act like an idiot to Spell sometimes. If every faction wants to get rolled by us thats their problem, I'm just glad we are the ones doing the rolling.

@ ReVrEhYsIOmA : I think you may have a problem that needs to be checked out. All you do is hate on Vicious. I can't find anywhere that you don't bash Vicious. Now I know people can get fixated on things, but your bordering on Spell_Caster territory here. And if you think Skai is trolling then there is no help for you. I don't think Skai can troll, some sort of law of the universe or something. Anyway if I were you I would try and get to the root of your hate and do something about it. It's starting to become obsesive.

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »

@ Haha_Dude: I think you'r painting with too broad of a brush. Plus this is a PvE server so there is no real way to make someone fight you. At this point I'm fine with the 5-15 min, it dosen't bother me anymore. I accept that factions won't improve to fight us and thats fine. I'm fine when pk only lasts 5 min, because at 30k hp one charm tick is 15k so it can kill a charm fast. I understand why some people chose trash talking other people/factions/server into fighting them. I think we thought most factions would do the same as we did. Come together, stand as one and defeat the top faction. That didn't happen so some of us are trying anything to get people to fight us. And calling all us all QQing tards is a bit of a strech. I mostly come on here to give my opinion on the subject and to act like an idiot to Spell sometimes. If every faction wants to get rolled by us thats their problem, I'm just glad we are the ones doing the rolling.

@ ReVrEhYsIOmA : I think you may have a problem that needs to be checked out. All you do is hate on Vicious. I can't find anywhere that you don't bash Vicious. Now I know people can get fixated on things, but your bordering on Spell_Caster territory here. And if you think Skai is trolling then there is no help for you. I don't think Skai can troll, some sort of law of the universe or something. Anyway if I were you I would try and get to the root of your hate and do something about it. It's starting to become obsesive.

it seems anti-troll protection dint work QQ.

i dont hate, im just tell what is happening, too bad that the things vici are doing involve hate, insult and bashing.

SirMerchalot - Raging Tide

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide wrote: »

it seems anti-troll protection dint work QQ.

i dont hate, im just tell what is happening, too bad that the things vici are doing involve hate, insult and bashing.

this might help

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

Now vici want to troll me and they send reinforcement.But can they troll all server at the same time?

I might be hard sometimes but i don't insult on forums, but some vici members cant make a argument without insulting or bashing.So i say............. http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/9111664.jpg

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

@Haha I have seen what the "old QQme" did, and none of it was making friends with anyone/any faction. Way before I joined Vicious, or even paid any attention to TW, the only thing I remember about the old QQme was that they dominated the whole map.

Every time I saw a QQme member on my lil veno back then and asked for either advice, had a question, or something that a nice person would do, every. single. one. of. them. that I pm'd gave me the cold shoulder, and even cursed/flamed/trolled me. I even had a decent deal with someone from QQme, where I had enough to finally buy a Love tome, and the QQme member trolled the living **** out of me, even though I was just an innocent person that did nothing wrong.

I saw none of that in Vicious.

@ReVr Lovely of you to assume that anyone talking against you is in Vicious.

ReVrEhYsIOmA - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

@Haha I have seen what the "old QQme" did, and none of it was making friends with anyone/any faction. Way before I joined Vicious, or even paid any attention to TW, the only thing I remember about the old QQme was that they dominated the whole map.

Every time I saw a QQme member on my lil veno back then and asked for either advice, had a question, or something that a nice person would do, every. single. one. of. them. that I pm'd gave me the cold shoulder, and even cursed/flamed/trolled me. I even had a decent deal with someone from QQme, where I had enough to finally buy a Love tome, and the QQme member trolled the living **** out of me, even though I was just an innocent person that did nothing wrong.

I saw none of that in Vicious.

@ReVr Lovely of you to assume that anyone talking against you is in Vicious.

The post #56 was from a we<3puddin member, that count has a vici member?

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Nope. I don't even know half, or even 1/4th, of the members in We<3Puddi. They do nothing with Vicious, so there's literally not much interaction between us. They may be full of Vicious alts or friends of Vicious, but that doesn't mean they are Vicious.

Brillance - Raging Tide

Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm going to pull out and disagree with the "wine TW for mental health reasons" because I feel thats the most important. First off I don't think that got QQme very far, at least thats what it looks like to me. At the start of Vicious we got rolled by QQme in 5-15 min every time. We still showed up, and we would even have to fight to get spots because we had so many sign up. Everyone had charms, apoth, blessing, what ever we could bring knowing that it was going to be a 5 min roll. Did some people cry about it? Yes. Did some people rage quit? Yes. But the core members who knew the deal stayed and improved, both in gear and in game knowledge. The rest is history and I don't need to go over that. Now lets take a look at QQme. OH how the mighty have fallen. No need to go over the fall of QQme because thats plain for all to see. Now QQme wined Vicious many time for many "reasons". They said it was a waste of apoth/charm/def charms/ what ever. They said wine them so they get so bored they all quit. They said wine Vicious because if we get rolled we will lose people. Dosen't look like that way of thinking has gotten QQme very far. The hardest steel is forged in the hottest fire. Vicious was born from the fires of TW. QQme broke under the heat of our flame. Now the server burns because of us. But like all fires once the fuel is consumed it will die out and turn to ash. Wonder how long that will take. Im sure the second waring of the guilds will speed that up, but I see a long prolonged death song for Vicious.

Excuse me - my post wasnt to be taken as an opportunity to bash QQme. Reality is, if you were in QQme at that time, then YOU know the deal and would agree with it. I will easily tell you that no one in the faction put forth so much as a whimper of diappointment when the notion was mentioned. Bids were publicly discussed when they were happening, so its not like that was hidden or anything, lol.

From my perspective, you guys ended your own TWs. And, I know its not your fault you are so big, have such nice gears, and enjoy each others company so much.

Its not any other factions fault that they feel the same way about their own.

It simply is what it is.

The saving grace being, the future ability to turn that unmoveable mountain into a number of shakeable anthills. b:victory