Lf Pve Sin Build

bossgame
bossgame Posts: 18 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Assassin
hi, all in the tittle, ty

PVE ONLY NOT PVP, NOT PVP, NOT PVP , NOT PVP , NOT PVP , NOT PVP

PVE like TT, FC
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  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Hi You Should Probably Read The Stickies And Look At The First Few Pages Instead Of Ignoring Everything Like A Moron And Stop Typing In All Caps
    Kthxbai
  • shopitup
    shopitup Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Heavy armor clawsin.

    Hey, it's a build. You didn't say you wanted a good one.

    If I keep playing my 'sin long enough for it to matter, I'm planning on going sage and building for DPH not APS. Not sure yet if it'd be smarter to go for crit or attack levels or what.
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    shopitup wrote: »
    Heavy armor clawsin.

    Hey, it's a build. You didn't say you wanted a good one.

    If I keep playing my 'sin long enough for it to matter, I'm planning on going sage and building for DPH not APS. Not sure yet if it'd be smarter to go for crit or attack levels or what.

    ha chill pataka sin
  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    bossgame wrote: »
    hi, all in the tittle, ty

    PVE ONLY NOT PVP, NOT PVP, NOT PVP , NOT PVP , NOT PVP , NOT PVP

    PVE like TT, FC

    Refer to my signature.b:kiss
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Current Sin Build:
    pwcalc.com/b6540a34278d977d
    Current Wizard Build:
    pwcalc.com/068f7e40791a3be6
  • shopitup
    shopitup Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Okay, just because I'm such a darn nice guy, how's this for a not-endgame not-cashshopped PvE build: http://pwcalc.com/84c64b1847e51c86

    Not much APS. Nirvy the daggers and legs to fix that.

    Maybe not enough DPH, even. Nirvy the legs and top for five attack levels; shard DoT.

    Other than that, how's it look?
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    shopitup wrote: »
    Okay, just because I'm such a darn nice guy, how's this for a not-endgame not-cashshopped PvE build: http://pwcalc.com/84c64b1847e51c86

    Not much APS. Nirvy the daggers and legs to fix that.

    Maybe not enough DPH, even. Nirvy the legs and top for five attack levels; shard DoT.

    Other than that, how's it look?

    Well...

    If you have the money to go for Myriad Blossom Greaves and Barrier Thorn: Nirvana, you should rather get Rank 8 first. Rank 8 costs much less Myriad Blossom Greaves and offers double the -interval.
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  • shopitup
    shopitup Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    If you have the money to go for Myriad Blossom Greaves and Barrier Thorn: Nirvana, you should rather get Rank 8 first. Rank 8 costs much less Myriad Blossom Greaves and offers double the -interval.

    I generally have this... thing against CSed rank 8. It's not entirely rational and reasonable, and you're 100% right about the costs, but I'm weird and I just don't like buying high-end gear from the boutique.

    Plus I'm also weird in that I think a DPH 'sin sounds much more interesting and challenging than an APS one, and that sample build was meant more for cheap DPH than for interval; nirvying the armor would be not so much for the interval as for the attack levels. I probably shouldn't've advocated nirvying parts of that build using APS as a justification at all, given my own preferences, really.

    Edit: that said, taking that sample build of mine and sticking a rank 8 top and weapon on it doesn't look half bad. 2200+ more damage, 3% more crits, and slightly better mag defenses --- not even counting the higher APS.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    shopitup wrote: »
    I generally have this... thing against CSed rank 8. It's not entirely rational and reasonable, and you're 100% right about the costs, but I'm weird and I just don't like buying high-end gear from the boutique.

    Plus I'm also weird in that I think a DPH 'sin sounds much more interesting and challenging than an APS one, and that sample build was meant more for cheap DPH than for interval; nirvying the armor would be not so much for the interval as for the attack levels. I probably shouldn't've advocated nirvying parts of that build using APS as a justification at all, given my own preferences, really.

    Edit: that said, taking that sample build of mine and sticking a rank 8 top and weapon on it doesn't look half bad. 2200+ more damage, 3% more crits, and slightly better mag defenses --- not even counting the higher APS.

    The ship has sailed on playing without cash shop involvement.
    You don't have to put your own real money in, but avoiding any interaction with cash shop items is next to impossible.

    Use charms? How about tokens? Ever gone on a wined BH? The cash shop is part of the game, you can't ignore it, you can still be F2P and work with it tho.

    Trying to avoid it will only result in you gimping yourself while trying to pursue an unacheivable goal. And a viable or desirable DPH sin is far far more expensive than a viable aps sin. Try finding a squad for anything touting yourself as a DPH sin with anything worse than r8 daggers, and let us know how that works out.

    For that matter as a dph sin for anything outside of pvp.
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  • shopitup
    shopitup Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The ship has sailed on playing without cash shop involvement.
    You don't have to put your own real money in, but avoiding any interaction with cash shop items is next to impossible.

    True, and as a cash shop merchant I definitely know it. It's just buying high-end gear (R8, R9) that I have a weird, totally personal objection to.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    shopitup wrote: »
    I generally have this... thing against CSed rank 8. It's not entirely rational and reasonable, and you're 100% right about the costs, but I'm weird and I just don't like buying high-end gear from the boutique.

    Then I guess that means you will be sharding... beautiful Citrines? After all, anything beyond that is made from Tokens, and tokens come from the boutique.
    Plus I'm also weird in that I think a DPH 'sin sounds much more interesting and challenging than an APS one, and that sample build was meant more for cheap DPH than for interval; nirvying the armor would be not so much for the interval as for the attack levels. I probably shouldn't've advocated nirvying parts of that build using APS as a justification at all, given my own preferences, really.

    If you want DPH, then you just picked the worst possible weapon for that.

    For DPH, there's much better alternatives, such as this or this or this or this.

    Short of R9s, G15 Nirvana and G16 Nirvana, R8 has the best DPH in the game. And trust me, walking around with a +6 R8 and a +6 Barrier Thorn: Nirvana, the difference in DPH is noticeable.
    Trying to avoid it will only result in you gimping yourself while trying to pursue an unacheivable goal. And a viable or desirable DPH sin is far far more expensive than a viable aps sin. Try finding a squad for anything touting yourself as a DPH sin with anything worse than r8 daggers, and let us know how that works out.

    Fun fact: The only decent means of doing an all-out DPH sin is G16 Nirvana or R9.
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  • shopitup
    shopitup Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Then I guess that means you will be sharding... beautiful Citrines? After all, anything beyond that is made from Tokens, and tokens come from the boutique.

    No, I'm not that obsessive about it. I'm basically one of the old fogeys who QQd back when the first General Summer's sale made rank gear available for cash, and I've never got over it. If I was as totally opposed to any cash shop gear as y'all seem to be reading into my words, I'd not be able to be a merchant.

    And thanks, Olba and Sasha both, for your comments on DPH 'sin builds. I'm taking notes here, hopefully this'll be useful. b:thanks
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2012


    Fun fact: The only decent means of doing an all-out DPH sin is G16 Nirvana or R9.

    True, but as underfunded as this guy appears to be, he might be able to squirt by as at least somewhat useful in bh squads as a r8 DPH.

    Although dph sin is mainly reserved for overfunded r9 sages.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    shopitup wrote: »
    No, I'm not that obsessive about it. I'm basically one of the old fogeys who QQd back when the first General Summer's sale made rank gear available for cash, and I've never got over it. If I was as totally opposed to any cash shop gear as y'all seem to be reading into my words, I'd not be able to be a merchant.

    On the day they announced the first General Summer's sale, I was a puny little level 80 Assassin, farming away at Chief Assassins on Nightscream Island. That was the second time I thought of quitting the game. Reason being that I instantly figured that Rank 8 would become the new expected standard for PvE at 100+ and I thought I'd never be able to afford it.

    Today, my sin looks like this, I have most Sage skills learned and I have about 440m worth of coin funds.
    I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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