Lost City server Low POPULATION
kristytrave
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Lost city PVP SPOTS are dead no1 is pking,its hard to find gear PRICES GO UP and players are quiting PWE must do something !
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I havent went to PVP zones at all since Tideborns and completly avoided them after R9 came out... Blame the tryhards that spend insane amounts of cash0
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They are doing something, they're letting the game die, on purpose. It's almost reached it's 5 year "life expectancy"...
Didn't you know that's the M.O. of Chinese MMO developers/companies? They create a game, they expect even the BEST of games to only last about 5 years, then they milk it for every last penny they can before physically "pulling the plug". After they do finally "pull the plug" they recycle it using regurgitated code/gfx/sounds and create another game (something PW Beijing didn't even wait to do, since they ALREADY have SO MANY OTHER GAMES that use Angelica (the same 'engine' as PW)!0 -
/ork - Harshlands wrote: »They are doing something, they're letting the game die, on purpose. It's almost reached it's 5 year "life expectancy"...
Didn't you know that's the M.O. of Chinese MMO developers/companies? They create a game, they expect even the BEST of games to only last about 5 years, then they milk it for every last penny they can before physically "pulling the plug". After they do finally "pull the plug" they recycle it using regurgitated code/gfx/sounds and create another game (something PW Beijing didn't even wait to do, since they ALREADY have SO MANY OTHER GAMES that use Angelica (the same 'engine' as PW)!
Only the english version is dying, the pwcn is still going strong with ~70 servers.
PWCN is getting tons of new contents such as new fash, mounts, pets, events, while all we get are sales (which funnily enough, pwcn gets none of).
You are right about them reusing this game though, JD and FW and whatnot are essentially built off of it, hence why you could use JD monsters or FW mounts in PW.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
We are tired of Butique Patches better make 1 real patch a month0
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Wow, you must be some PWE insider when you know all those informations b:shutup/ork - Harshlands wrote: »They are doing something, they're letting the game die, on purpose. It's almost reached it's 5 year "life expectancy"...
Didn't you know that's the M.O. of Chinese MMO developers/companies? They create a game, they expect even the BEST of games to only last about 5 years, then they milk it for every last penny they can before physically "pulling the plug". After they do finally "pull the plug" they recycle it using regurgitated code/gfx/sounds and create another game (something PW Beijing didn't even wait to do, since they ALREADY have SO MANY OTHER GAMES that use Angelica (the same 'engine' as PW)!
Isn't that case with every other MMO game?
You make one engine and try to make as many games as possible on that engine.
Why? To reduce costs. Isn't that logical? To me it is.
It's their engine, meaning they don't have to pay anything to anyone if they use it.
And they won't "Pull the plug" from any game as long as it's making profit. So instead of QQ-ing about Cash Shoppers, you should be glad that there is so many of them, cause they are the one keeping the game alive.
And stop trolling, you're always talking nonsense.0 -
CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »Isn't that case with every other MMO game?
You make one engine and try to make as many games as possible on that engine.
Why? To reduce costs. Isn't that logical? To me it is.
Is it logical? Yes.
Who get shafted by it? The players.CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »And they won't "Pull the plug" from any game as long as it's making profit. So instead of QQ-ing about Cash Shoppers, you should be glad that there is so many of them, cause they are the one keeping the game alive.
''As long as'' being the key phrase here. Remember that other game, ''Heroes of Three Kingdoms''?
Me neither.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
It's a pvp server. Not everyone rolls with being free to kill all the time. Add the gap in gears and you will have even less people interested in 24/7 pk...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Outrunning centaurs since 2012~0 -
CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wow, you must be some PWE insider when you know all those informations b:shutup
Isn't that case with every other MMO game?
You make one engine and try to make as many games as possible on that engine.
Why? To reduce costs. Isn't that logical? To me it is.
It's their engine, meaning they don't have to pay anything to anyone if they use it.
And they won't "Pull the plug" from any game as long as it's making profit. So instead of QQ-ing about Cash Shoppers, you should be glad that there is so many of them, cause they are the one keeping the game alive.
And stop trolling, you're always talking nonsense.
You don't know what you're talking about, I never said anything about cash shoppers, so there you go putting words in my mouth..
and NO there's NO reason to make 100 CRAPPY games on ONE engine than it would be to make ONE GOOD game on it !
You apparently need to go back to school and learn math and economics... Since I AM a CSer I wouldn't speak badly of them or, oh wait, QQ as you put it (also showing your lack of education, I can tell you're 'one of those' who accuse everyone of QQing anytime their views do not match that of your own)... No, I thought they would run the servers as a charity //facepalm0 -
So, they should make new engine and port entire PWI to that new engine? Will that make players happy?Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »Is it logical? Yes.
Who get shafted by it? The players.
''As long as'' being the key phrase here. Remember that other game, ''Heroes of Three Kingdoms''?
Me neither.
Game is 6 years old now, and it still looks good. Specially new areas where they put stylized graphics.
And I don't remember that game you're mentioned, but everyone is talking about PWI, and it gets new players too. Which means, it's still profitable enough for company to keep it alive and make new content for game (Descent, Imeprial Fury).
You didn't, but Sjuggs is, and I was referring to that. I just put it all in one answer./ork - Harshlands wrote: »You don't know what you're talking about, I never said anything about cash shoppers, so there you go putting words in my mouth..
Engine is old, as is PWI. I don't care about other games they make, since I'm not playing them. And it's still looking good in new areas./ork - Harshlands wrote: »and NO there's NO reason to make 100 CRAPPY games on ONE engine than it would be to make ONE GOOD game on it !/ork - Harshlands wrote: »You apparently need to go back to school and learn math and economics... Since I AM a CSer I wouldn't speak badly of them or, oh wait, QQ as you put it (also showing your lack of education, I can tell you're 'one of those' who accuse everyone of QQing anytime their views do not match that of your own)... No, I thought they would run the servers as a charity //facepalm
You're the one that QQ in every post you make.
If you don't like game, quit playing and GTFO this forums. Play other games, there's tons of them, go QQ about those games on their forums.0 -
CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »And I don't remember that game you're mentioned
It's a game that was once hosted by PWE, but it got closed down.
You can guess why.
And about it being profitable; it's not about how many new players a game gets, it's how many of them stick around. You'll find that this number has been declining for quite a while now.
The updates we get are either from PW-CN which, as was pointed out before, is still going strong or they're hastily put together pieces of old content with edited stats and released here as a ''PWI exclusive'' meant to keep people spending.
I don't see PWI going down anytime soon, but it's far past its prime.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's a game that was once hosted by PWE, but it got closed down.
You can guess why.
And about it being profitable; it's not about how many new players a game gets, it's how many of them stick around. You'll find that this number has been declining for quite a while now.
The updates we get are either from PW-CN which, as was pointed out before, is still going strong or they're hastily put together pieces of old content with edited stats and released here as a ''PWI exclusive'' meant to keep people spending.
I don't see PWI going down anytime soon, but it's far past its prime.
Yes but i can many ppl QQ MERGE THE SERVERS0 -
CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »So, they should make new engine and port entire PWI to that new engine? Will that make players happy?
Game is 6 years old now, and it still looks good. Specially new areas where they put stylized graphics.
And I don't remember that game you're mentioned, but everyone is talking about PWI, and it gets new players too. Which means, it's still profitable enough for company to keep it alive and make new content for game (Descent, Imeprial Fury).
You didn't, but Sjuggs is, and I was referring to that. I just put it all in one answer.
Engine is old, as is PWI. I don't care about other games they make, since I'm not playing them. And it's still looking good in new areas.
You're the one that QQ in every post you make.
If you don't like game, quit playing and GTFO this forums. Play other games, there's tons of them, go QQ about those games on their forums.
I am NOT QQ'ing ~ I think you just need to re-evaluate your definition of QQ b:chuckle
But I am referring to things that are factual. How about the fact that not ONLY PW~Beijing being notorious for the type of behavior I described, it's ALL Chinese developed MMOs... Only thing is I know for a FACT that PW admitted it, hence THIS thread:
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1364021
and just in case you miss the important part of that thread it's the documents contained in here:
http://www.pwrd.com/html/en/annual_report.html
Where PW ADMITS they expect to close their games AROUND FIVE YEARS -- guess what, 2008 for PWi, they're gettin close to that 5 year mark; and with the slow decline in player base I would NOT doubt it!
Also don't forget they wont tell us (most likely) JUST LIKE when PW_MY was shutdown... Sure they have this notice now:
http://perfectworld.com.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=248&Itemid=11
But from a few people I KNOW that played on those servers there was no real notice, aside the "300 second shutdown" notice, and POOF that was it -- any of your hard time playing and or hard earned money spent, GONE ~~ POOF
But ofc you can read even more about that whole "LOVELY" (POOR) shutdown of PW_MY here:
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1366311
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http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1367191
So like I said, sure, if you don't mind your hard earned / payed for stuff going POOF w/o any warning. It would NOT surprise me if we also got little to no warning over here when this game does go down... IT would just coincide with their lack of (and poor for what little they may have) customer service...0 -
What do you mean Lost is dying!?
I was out questing on my 5X barb and I saw one 5X wiz around Tusk Town too.
Jumped on my R9 Wiz and two shotted a couple a bosses he/she needed (gal toon/not sure of gender in real life). Jewelscalen StormHorn They needed them for ages they said and no one would help.
See! There is one new player out there on Lost!
b:thanks b:bye b:kiss0 -
/ork - Harshlands wrote: »It's almost reached it's 5 year "life expectancy"...
That's funny since PW went live over 7 years ago and the game engine is nearing it's 10th year in existence...I love puppies.... and sharp objects. b:pleased0 -
TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »That's funny since PW went live over 7 years ago and the game engine is nearing it's 10th year in existence...
Wrong PWI went live in 2008, we're NOT discussing PW_CN here. I am also ignoring the fact of your 7 year claim because likewise we are NOT discussing the PAY TO PLAY version (who gives a **** that the PAY TO PLAY / SUBSCRIPTION BASED version was released in July 2005)...
I already KNOW FOR A FACT that PW_CN has their **** in order. They don't even allow the use of hyper stones in FCC/FF/FC...
ADD: and they dont ****ing sell rankVIII in the CS like the ********* here at PWE do!0 -
/ork - Harshlands wrote: »Wrong PWI went live in 2008, we're NOT discussing PW_CN here.
That document you was referring to, it's for Chinese market. b:bye
Why PW2 isn't dead yet there? They launched in 2006, it's 2012 now, and they still add new content.
Plus, Jade Dynasty and Perfect World 2 (PWI) are making 40% of revenues for company. They are not crazy to kill these games.0 -
Apparently you do not know how to read either, that document is from WASHINGTON DC which last time I checked was in the US... It is also in direct relation to the business dealings of Perfect World in The United States of America... Just in case you didn't know Beijing is the main 'parent' "mack daddy" whatever terminology you may know or understand, company, and PWE (located in CA, USA) is merely a subsidiary... (So OF COURSE you're going to see "Beijing" named in LEGAL documents) Maybe you should try reading the documents in their entirety ~ I will bet you cannot even point out: on what page does it discuss the 5 year life-span ??? More specifically what is the ACTUAL year span mentioned IN the document ??? it's x-5 or 5-x something, what is it ??? PLEASE tell me, what is X (you would know if you actually read the document, but then again you would ALSO know that it CLEARLY defined AND I QUOTE"we", "us", "our company", "our" and "Perfect World" refer to Perfect World Co.,Ltd., A Cayman Islands company, and its subsidiaries, and, in the contect of describing our operations, risk factors and financial results, also include our consolidated variable interest entities;0
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/ork - Harshlands wrote: »Wrong PWI went live in 2008, we're NOT discussing PW_CN here. I am also ignoring the fact of your 7 year claim because likewise we are NOT discussing the PAY TO PLAY version (who gives a **** that the PAY TO PLAY / SUBSCRIPTION BASED version was released in July 2005)...
I already KNOW FOR A FACT that PW_CN has their **** in order. They don't even allow the use of hyper stones in FCC/FF/FC...
ADD: and they dont ****ing sell rankVIII in the CS like the ********* here at PWE do!
i hope they dont sell int sht cos its almost the same
and if they dont sell pack then int is farmed so at least its a aim wish is good and almost impossible to reach 5aps.
they sure are a lucky bunch
i even heard they have a ziljion botting veno army but me its better then aps and r9 cash shop **** dont you agree.
but as lon gas aps exist r9 shall exist to b:laugh0 -
If PWI does die off any time soon, it's their own fault. The game definitely had the potential to be an outstanding mmo overall and last quite a few more years. But they've already done so much irreparable damage with hypers, fcc, cheap rank8, rank9, packs, aps, endless cash shop sales and so on that the game is well beyond hope or repair. There's so much wrong with the game that would cause even more damage if they took it out at this stage.
I don't believe they have plans to shut down just yet though. I'm guessing a little before they do, they'll put everything on a massive sale with huge discounts on anything desirable, to milk that last chunk of cash. Watch out for it.0 -
_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »i hope they dont sell int sht cos its almost the same
and if they dont sell pack then int is farmed so at least its a aim wish is good and almost impossible to reach 5aps.
they sure are a lucky bunch
i even heard they have a ziljion botting veno army but me its better then aps and r9 cash shop **** dont you agree.
but as lon gas aps exist r9 shall exist to b:laugh
I agree, gaming must be good on the PW_CN servers! They are all lucky, more lucky than you or I
Sadly for starters I do not know how to speak Chinese. Secondly, I do believe that even if we knew how to speak Chinese we are 'blocked' from playing on PW_CN anyway since we live in the USA (or at least I do), and their garbage is "region locked" (kinda like a DVD LOL)... Sure we could use a proxy but then #1 still kicks us in the rear end (not knowing how to speak / read Chinese) and as if that didn't kick us, if caught I'm sure they'd ban/delete any accounts guilty of using a proxy to connect... 0 -
_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »If PWI does die off any time soon, it's their own fault. The game definitely had the potential to be an outstanding mmo overall and last quite a few more years. But they've already done so much irreparable damage with hypers, fcc, cheap rank8, rank9, packs, aps, endless cash shop sales and so on that the game is well beyond hope or repair. There's so much wrong with the game that would cause even more damage if they took it out at this stage.
I don't believe they have plans to shut down just yet though. I'm guessing a little before they do, they'll put everything on a massive sale with huge discounts on anything desirable, to milk that last chunk of cash. Watch out for it.
Remember though, they could do this with little or NO warning whatsoever (look at what happened to PW_MY, and their recent shutdown with nothing more than 300 seconds notice!)!
I predict PWE will shut down PWi by no later than Sept 2, 2013 (and honestly at this point I think even THAT is a STRETCH!)!
You're right though -- it's their own fault this game is going to die pre-mature! IMHO this game would have overtaken even WoW if the company gave 1/2 of a **** about it =\0 -
/ork - Harshlands wrote: »Apparently you do not know how to read either, that document is from WASHINGTON DC which last time I checked was in the US... It is also in direct relation to the business dealings of Perfect World in The United States of America... Just in case you didn't know Beijing is the main 'parent' "mack daddy" whatever terminology you may know or understand, company, and PWE (located in CA, USA) is merely a subsidiary... Maybe you should try reading the documents in their entirety ~ I will bet you cannot even point out: on what page does it discuss the 5 year life-span ??? More specifically what is the ACTUAL year span mentioned IN the document ??? it's x-5 or 5-x something, what is it ???
Oh, so now you have PHD in economics too? Why do you sell PCs then? b:surrender
Document is for NASDAQ, so it's logical that somewhere in there mention USA.
But if you read that document carefully, they are talking about their business plans in China. Every data you see in there, is for China players. Every plan is for China. They just barely mention other markets.
Only part where they include other subsidiaries is when they talk about income and profit.
PWI is making huge amout of income for company, they have no reason to shut their most profitable game.0 -
You all want to complain about content and items. We just got the new race.. a whole new area morai. New skills and advanced endless universe. New bosses for bh. Not to mention Trials. They gave the free to play players ways to get kick *** gear. Stop complaining and go do something.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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XxStormy - Harshlands wrote: »You all want to complain about content and items. We just got the new race.. a whole new area morai. New skills and advanced endless universe. New bosses for bh. Not to mention Trials. They gave the free to play players ways to get kick *** gear. Stop complaining and go do something.
Totally agree! Players just need to go and, well, play the game!
But I guess that's too hard for certain people.0 -
XxStormy - Harshlands wrote: »You all want to complain about content and items. We just got the new race.. a whole new area morai. New skills and advanced endless universe. New bosses for bh. Not to mention Trials. They gave the free to play players ways to get kick *** gear. Stop complaining and go do something.
Be quiet gooner0 -
/ork - Harshlands wrote: »Be quiet gooner
Try and make me lowbie b:thanksb:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
/ork - Harshlands wrote: »I agree, gaming must be good on the PW_CN servers! They are all lucky, more lucky than you or I Sadly for starters I do not know how to speak Chinese. Secondly, I do believe that even if we knew how to speak Chinese we are 'blocked' from playing on PW_CN anyway since we live in the USA (or at least I do), and their garbage is "region locked" (kinda like a DVD LOL)... Sure we could use a proxy but then #1 still kicks us in the rear end (not knowing how to speak / read Chinese) and as if that didn't kick us, if caught I'm sure they'd ban/delete any accounts guilty of using a proxy to connect...
PWCN does not have ip blocks (not of any that I know of, anyways).
When it comes to foreign gaming sites, if you can get access to their website (pwcn can be found here), then there is an extremely high probability that their gaming servers won't block you.
The issue with asian games is the registration though, not the ip blocks. They usually ask for some sort of confirmation (such as the asian equivalent of a SSN) that you are indeed a real person.
But as evident with the veno botting armies (each veno is a different account...), the registration is easy to get around, though it takes a bit of know how.
(while those accounts could be **** accounts but considering that every veno I've seen starts off in the untamed starter area and moves up from there, it seems highly unlikely those accounts belonged to someone else)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »Totally agree! Players just need to go and, well, play the game!
But I guess that's too hard for certain people.
Then why you on the forums genius, go play and GTFO of here!
I don't feel like playing because on PWi the company sucks my *** and so do the players!0 -
Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »PWCN does not have ip blocks (not of any that I know of, anyways).
When it comes to foreign gaming sites, if you can get access to their website (pwcn can be found here), then there is an extremely high probability that their gaming servers won't block you.
The issue with asian games is the registration though, not the ip blocks. They usually ask for some sort of confirmation (such as the asian equivalent of a SSN) that you are indeed a real person.
But as evident with the veno botting armies (each veno is a different account...), the registration is easy to get around, though it takes a bit of know how.
(while those accounts could be **** accounts but considering that every veno I've seen starts off in the untamed starter area and moves up from there, it seems highly unlikely those accounts belonged to someone else)
Sweet, I'll check it out thx
**** everyone else here then Im out
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/ork - Harshlands wrote: »Sweet, I'll check it out thx
**** everyone else here then Im out
PWCN is not something you'll play for long though.
It's not hard to figure out if you know pwi well, but being with a foreign community gets boring especially if you don't have any English friends on there.
I'd rather you simply look into p servers as opposed to going on to pwcn, it is not worth the hassle.
If you are that upset about pw, you should take a break from it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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