End game daggers

TaeWolf - Lost City
TaeWolf - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Assassin
Hi I was wondering for an aps pvp sin wich endgame daggers would be better im betwen Nv Lunar daggers/Nv TT daggers or R9 recast daggers wich would be my best option please help
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  • anbelll
    anbelll Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    For an aps pvp sin, I believe r9 recast daggers is the best choice, almost without even giving it a second thought.
    If you put Nv G16 on the scene (TT or Lunar G16 is the same) maybe it's a bit harder to choose, because in the end it's more a personal choice.

    Still, I would vote r9r if you can afford it. Very superior from my point of view.

    I'm pretty sure others will come and give you other opinions as well :D

    But, still, we would need more information. What kind of build do you have/are you planning to get?

    If you can post a pwcalc ( http://pwcalc.com/ ) it would be great...
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    TaeWolf - Lost City wrote: »
    Hi I was wondering for an aps pvp sin wich endgame daggers would be better im betwen Nv Lunar daggers/Nv TT daggers or R9 recast daggers wich would be my best option please help
    (im sorry for my bad english)
    If you're going to do Nv daggers you might as well just get the g16s. It has the highest chance of getting more interval since it gives 3 addsons vs G15s 2 as well as more damage output. It depends on what kind of PvP you want to do. PK only / TW only / Both. What base APS you're looking for. Because sometimes DPH > APS. I'm more afraid of a CoD'd sin using r9 zerk/crit proc then a sin trying to aps me to death. So If you can be a little more specific in what you are looking for. As well is if you are sage or demon.


    Personally I'd say overall R9r or R9r2 is better then Nirvana daggers in the long run though.

    I'd give you some calcs but after you provide us with more specific information :>
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    In PvP, R9 recast will be preferred due to it having GoF.
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  • Geshwur - Raging Tide
    Geshwur - Raging Tide Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    If you can afford R9/R9 recast Do it.

    PvP it's the best option out there (PvE I'm fairly certain that T3 Nirvy with -interval is better though [Recast R9 aside], and is much cheaper, so I'm sticking with them)

    Simply put... Rank 9 Tier 2/3 far outclass any other daggers in the game to date. I don't care if you get GoF, -interval, and god mode on Tier 2 Nirvy or -interval and WTFHAX on T3 Nirvy. (Though, GoF on T3 with -interval and the attack levels would be VERY nice... Heh... Too bad THAT'S not possible, I might consider re-rolling xD)
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  • _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary
    _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Geshwur - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If you can afford R9/R9 recast Do it.

    PvP it's the best option out there (PvE I'm fairly certain that T3 Nirvy with -interval is better though [Recast R9 aside], and is much cheaper, so I'm sticking with them)

    dont know how they stack up but wat about G15 morai dags for PvE, u can GoF on them too
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    dont know how they stack up but wat about G15 morai dags for PvE, u can GoF on them too

    No you can't. In fact you can't even get any -interval on these things.
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  • JinxRake - Momaganon
    JinxRake - Momaganon Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Here's a question: I'm not interested in PvP and neither am I interested in R9 (that's so EXPENSIVE O.O...poor sin here). But I want that after lvl 95 to start farming TT or FC (haven't been enough in Lunar or WS so far to know if I wanna do that).
    Which daggs would get the job done in that situation? With full APS gear (Asura, Lionheart, R8 chest).
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    JinxRake - Momaganon wrote: »
    Here's a question: I'm not interested in PvP and neither am I interested in R9 (that's so EXPENSIVE O.O...poor sin here). But I want that after lvl 95 to start farming TT or FC (haven't been enough in Lunar or WS so far to know if I wanna do that).
    Which daggs would get the job done in that situation? With full APS gear (Asura, Lionheart, R8 chest).

    There's no way to really answer your question. For example, are you a Demon? Do you really have all -interval gear, including Pan Gu, Creator?

    Well, let's cover all the options. The good -interval daggers for 100+ are:
    Barrier Thorn: Nirvana
    Hitman Legend
    Dark Death Thorn/Netherworld Guidance
    Netherworld Guidance (G16)
    Daggers of Ocean: Eon

    Barrier Thorn: Nirvana is the go-to weapon mostly because it's cheap and has the most -interval. It's not really that great of a weapon beyond that point.
    Hitman Legend is a popular choice for Demons, because it offers a minimum of 4 aps sparked, plus it has superior damage to Barrier Thorn: Nirvana. Downsides would include requiring a tome for 5 aps and the efforts to get the weapon.
    Dark Death Thorn is usually reserved to PvP and farmer folk, because the costs to get a good roll, plus the benefits you get aren't really worth it for most people.
    Netherworld Guidance (G16) is the best -interval weapon in the game. It has the highest DPH, the most consistent DPH and it can get the "mythical" 4-5 aps with great ease. Downsides include the costs and efforts to farm the rerolls.
    Daggers of Ocean: Eon are a vastly overlooked option, mostly because the odds for -interval are very bad, but also because the Faction Trials aren't too popular. However, if you do manage to get -interval on it, Daggers of Ocean: Eon is equal or superior to Dark Death Thorn.

    Do note that Barrier Thorn: Nirvana is the only weapon where you can realistically expect -0,05 interval, which is also the cheapest way to get to 5 aps as a Demon sin.
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  • JinxRake - Momaganon
    JinxRake - Momaganon Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Should've been more explicit. I meant that I'm quite set on what gear I want to get, have it all planned, working on my farming right now. The weapon is the only one that I'm not really set on.
    I'm goign Demon today and want to get started on farming for mats/money as soon as I can find someone to do some TM79 runs (missed my chance for TM69...long story).

    I was thinking along the lines of Barrier Thorn: Nirvana or Hitman Legend, but the second is stupidly hard to get seeing as I've seen people selling those signs once in a blue moon, not to mention actually hearing of some that would participate in the quests for them.

    My main go-to weapon so far were the vana daggs indeed, but I'll hate being just another generic Sin on the server >.>.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    JinxRake - Momaganon wrote: »
    but I'll hate being just another generic Sin on the server >.>.

    You sure picked the wrong class then. Sin is probably the most cookie cutter class, although with rank gear the game almost pushes every class into a mold.

    At least your name doesn't include "ninja" "dagger" or "sin"
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  • anomanderrake1
    anomanderrake1 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thing is...I really like the sin. Not because of APS or whatever, I like the class as a whole, and I like the gear for the sin and how it looks. So I'd like to strive for some more special weapons...but that remains to be seen.

    As for the name...Anomander Rake wouldn't have been quite appropriate for a female Sin :)). So, Jinx.
  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    anomanderrake1 wrote: »
    As for the name...Anomander Rake wouldn't have been quite appropriate for a female Sin :)). So, Jinx.
    No...no it wouldn't have been ;)

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