New gear has no -chan

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
edited June 2012 in General Discussion
Why does all the recent gear have like no -chan?? Like 3rd cast nv pants have NONE. The new 3rd cast mag weap has a 1% chance at -3 chan... wtf man!?
Seriously, should I just get regular nv pants and sleeves and not even bother with 3rd cast?
I have a TT100 mag sword. I MAY consider EVENTUALLY turning into 3rd cast but idk if all this is even worth it.
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Yeah I noticed that too,-Channeling isn't anywhere as OP as -Interval and yet it seems like they want nerf it on newest equip....shame.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Why does all the recent gear have like no -chan?? Like 3rd cast nv pants have NONE. The new 3rd cast mag weap has a 1% chance at -3 chan... wtf man!?
    Seriously, should I just get regular nv pants and sleeves and not even bother with 3rd cast?
    I have a TT100 mag sword. I MAY consider EVENTUALLY turning into 3rd cast but idk if all this is even worth it.

    Because they like making metal mages suffer! b:chuckle

    On a serious note.... Do you guys REALLY need THAT much channel? Other then a wizard I can't imagine channeling being that much of a factor. Hell I'm content with just 33% channel on my cleric...
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    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    it's to prevent apostasy from failing
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  • shashahah
    shashahah Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Because they like making metal mages suffer! b:chuckle

    On a serious note.... Do you guys REALLY need THAT much channel? Other then a wizard I can't imagine channeling being that much of a factor. Hell I'm content with just 33% channel on my cleric...

    uve never really farmed then +/- dont know the advantages of higher channeling.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    shashahah wrote: »
    uve never really farmed then +/- dont know the advantages of higher channeling.

    I do. There is also cons to higher channeling. Such as running into cooldowns.

    There is no point in having 70% channeling if you are going to sit there for 1-2 waiting for your skill to cooldown to use it again. Yes you can string chain skills a little faster but the difference isn't exactly that much.

    Pys Venos and Mystics have very fast channeled skills in the first place anyways.

    Wizards are the only ones with the high channeling skills.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    it's to prevent apostasy from failing

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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Mmmm true that clerics and venos do not REALLY need it. Faster wield thunder and tempest would be nice, But still.... what if I was a wiz? I think it is kind of **** to not put more -chan and keep the interval around.

    They should make new protection orns with -chanb:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty
    Yeah I noticed that too,-Channeling isn't anywhere as OP as -Interval and yet it seems like they want nerf it on newest equip....shame.

    This is why I am just gonna get 2nd cast nv pants and sleeves. If they are gonna nerf chan on a weap then they should of at least kept it on the pants. W.T.F were they thinking!? Gawd the devs are idiotic.
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  • shashahah
    shashahah Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    a cleric with high channeling can heal a 30k+ hp barb full (from almost 0 hp) within 2-3secs (just think about tw)..instant stream of reju etc

    nough said.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    +40 attack levels sucks compared to -6% chan.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    shashahah wrote: »
    a cleric with high channeling can heal a 30k+ hp barb full (from almost 0 hp) within 2-3secs (just think about tw)..instant stream of reju etc

    nough said.

    you do know that the clerics weapon has to be damn good to do that right? And once again. Cooldowns. -_-
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's collateral damage of their assault against the broken -interval mechanic, "to be fair".
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    , But still.... what if I was a wiz? I think it is kind of **** to not put more -chan and keep the interval around.

    I maybe wrong but the only 3rd cast nivarna peice with -int on it besides weapons is HA wrists.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Wizards should just go R9 IJS...some kind of gear will just suit a class better than others...otherwise what's the point of having different kind of options for gear? R9 for bm and sin dont have much -int if you don't remember.
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  • ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver
    ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    shashahah wrote: »
    a cleric with high channeling can heal a 30k+ hp barb full (from almost 0 hp) within 2-3secs (just think about tw)..instant stream of reju etc

    nough said.

    think about that cleric dieing from 1 knife throw of a sin with rank8 daggers +2


    unless that cleric doesnt have highly refined armor and sharded.....they dont stand chance in tw...good tw clerics base them more on psy def then chaneling
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    +40 attack levels sucks compared to -6% chan.

    I don't think most people are going to get the sarcasm in this.
  • SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    think about that cleric dieing from 1 knife throw of a sin with rank8 daggers +2


    unless that cleric doesnt have highly refined armor and sharded.....they dont stand chance in tw...good tw clerics base them more on psy def then chaneling

    Once again it is about tradeoffs. Wizards are really the only class that benefits from high channeling. As a cleric I personally only have 6% channeling and is more than enough for what I need. Sure more would be nice but as above I believe defence > channeling
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thumbs wrote: »
    I don't think most people are going to get the sarcasm in this.

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  • ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver
    ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Once again it is about tradeoffs. Wizards are really the only class that benefits from high channeling. As a cleric I personally only have 6% channeling and is more than enough for what I need. Sure more would be nice but as above I believe defence > channeling

    your cleric is special b:chuckle


    i loved how you survived at sonic that time we did wbs b:dirty
    and you know good what are you doing :)

    most people go pure magic build with chaneling thinking they will heal better and faster....but whats purpose of it if they die at start because of their squishyness b:sad
  • Jacerai - Dreamweaver
    Jacerai - Dreamweaver Posts: 943 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Once again it is about tradeoffs. Wizards are really the only class that benefits from high channeling. As a cleric I personally only have 6% channeling and is more than enough for what I need. Sure more would be nice but as above I believe defence > channeling

    Smash, you're also a HA cleric. xD

    I do agree with your point though. Fully. Wizzies are the only class with the most "long channeling" skills.


    I haven't taken a gander at the new gear yet, since I'm still working on my 2nd cast Nirvy (Lunar gear, slow going), but is -chan really that important? I've got -21% on my cleric and she seems to do well. My veno has -3%, my mystic -6ish, and my psy has no -chan gear. That's just my play-style though. Also, my veno and psy are around the low 70s, my mystic is sitting at 67.
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  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    your cleric is special b:chuckle


    i loved how you survived at sonic that time we did wbs b:dirty
    and you know good what are you doing :)

    most people go pure magic build with chaneling thinking they will heal better and faster....but whats purpose of it if they die at start because of their squishyness b:sad

    There's nothing wrong with pure mags, or optional -ch gears. There is something horribly wrong with putting points in vit.