you whant R9 player left the game ???

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear

Nirvana stage 3

250 Rapture Crystal to make it + litel farme with only 1 Essence of Offense

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 5%
Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 5%
Maximum Physical Attack +130 - 5%
Atk. Level +40

Physical attack 754-1131

sin with that weapon go to 5 aps

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R9

300 k reput + around 800 dollars to make

Atk. Level +30
God of Frenzy

Physical attack 798-1197

sin with that weapon go to 4 aps

then R9 can be destroyed lets see R9 stage 2

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R9 stage 2 need

Summerwind Token (4) = 1600 M around 1300 dollars

God of Frenzy
Atk. Level +40

Physical attack 814-1221

sin with that weapon go 4 aps

Then R9 stage 2 can be destroyed lets se R9 stage 3

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R9 stage 3 need

Hight farme to get it need Essence of Offense X 4

Range +2 - 14.29%
HP: +205 - 14.29%
Dexterity +8~20 - 14.29%
God of Frenzy: Infuses the wielder with divine fury! Has a higher chance
to deal double damage. Costs 5% Max HP. - 14.29%
Atk. Level +40 - 14.29%
Atk. Level +10~25 - 14.29%
Critical Hit Rate +3~6% - 14.29%

Physical attack 895-1343

sin with that weapon go 4 aps


ok then around 3000 dollars + much farme to get Essence of Offense x 4 to get 25 atk and GOF but still 4 aps R9 stage 3 player will get around the same weapon than any player will got 250 rapture ???

GM plz explain us ??? GM did you playe PWI ?? how you can make that this is ridiculous this is stupid that game are close to fail


now explain us why someone spend 3000 dollars on your game get same weapon as someone spend 200 dollars ??

fuzzywuzz

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear wrote: »

now explain us why someone spend 3000 dollars on your game get same weapon as someone spend 200 dollars ??

It looks to the panda like someone is under the impression you can get the best stats on the 1st try.....

Radamanthys - Heavens Tear

I don't get it
Is this a QQ thread?

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear

hi and thx for the answere


☆☆Netherworld Guidance

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 5%

you know how many player get 2X 0.5 int on that weapon almost all


stage 3 nirvana not need spend money just spend some time to farme the next recast

Basic Badge (20)

Essence of Offense

oh yes the recast is hard to do 20 badge to farme

how you think all stage 3 player will not get it ?? sure not in 2 week but afther 3 month we will see all stage 3 player sin with 5 aps and you with your R9 stage 3 at 4 aps you get weapon that do litel more dmg ??

seriously this is not fair

you realy need lowest the mat to get stage 2 R9 i see so many player going to left because spend money in this game = no avantage

Pharmacy - Harshlands

Spelling saves lives.

Jeremied - Sanctuary

Pharmacy - Harshlands wrote: »

Spelling saves lives.

I don't think english is his first language.

Still can't understand him though.

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 5%

you know how many player get 2X 0.5 int on that weapon almost all

Yes and do you know why? Because 90% of them had to reroll that weapon many times to get that.

fuzzywuzz

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear wrote: »

you know how many player get 2X 0.5 int on that weapon almost all

Wait what? Fuzzy is confused.... almost all? b:surprised

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear

Fuzzy

i mean this 5 % chance to get 0.5 int option is not miraculous is simply need time to get your goal as with 250 rapture you can get weapon = as someone spend much money


and i speack about stage 2 nirvana

☆☆Netherworld Guidance

same chance to get 0.5 int and i see around all stage 2 nirvana ☆☆Netherworld Guidance with 0.5 int X2

MansVisa - Raging Tide

WTB more butthurt sins that QQ


Sounds like someones mad that others can farm their G16 in a fairly short time and compete against those with R9. And now they're upset they need to get R9R to be at par to those with G16 Vana. This is one of the best updates as it leveled the playing field. Cash isn't king anymoreb:bye

fuzzywuzz

Its a 5% chance to get 1x -int 0.05. The odds of getting it twice plus an add like GoF or zerk.. ask one of our forums math folk, but to say almost all get it... the panda thinks not.

The OP seems to be suggesting that somehow getting a godly 3rd cast roll is cheaper than a 3rd cast R9... when all is said an done, Fuzzy suspects it isn't so.

evolution1234

Oh wow, a lot has changed since last month. Is my r9 set +12 24 josd still good against all these 5.0 aps sin with 100 atk lvls?

Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver

evolution1234 wrote: »

Oh wow, a lot has changed since last month. Is my r9 set +12 24 josd still good against all these 5.0 aps sin with 100 atk lvls?

Nope. Time to break out the +12 credit card of budget slaying again.b:bye

Quilue - Sanctuary

Peanut_MMs - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Fuzzy

i mean this 5 % chance to get 0.5 int option is not miraculous is simply need time to get your goal as with 250 rapture you can get weapon = as someone spend much money


and i speack about stage 2 nirvana

☆☆Netherworld Guidance

same chance to get 0.5 int and i see around all stage 2 nirvana ☆☆Netherworld Guidance with 0.5 int X2

5% is not miraculous, but to get it twice is 0.25%.

tweakz

aye i want them left game

Eyestabyew - Heavens Tear

I've rerolled my new Nirv Stage3 daggers 5 times so far no int. Currently have Mag +18, Range +1.00, Crit 1% *sigh*.

I was I was included in almost all who get 2 x -int.

Aquireis - Lost City

lol sounds like someone is mad that f2p can finally catch up and get on par with all the cash shoppers.

ravenleandra

Just a simple question Why does all the Sins QQ when they alrdy OP.Rather Nerf the sins and give them reason to QQ. b:surrender

X - Lost City

the math on double int for 3rd cast nirvana would be:

0.05^2 * 3=0.0075

1/0.0075=133,33 = 134 tries.

putting up the chance to get triple int isn't even significant.

so whatever that guy posted is kinda weird.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

I don't get why you're QQing so much.

Just get those fists if you're that obsessed with them.

Lyritha - Heavens Tear

sins with the spec to just do 5APS are not OP since they are a one trick pony and can be one shot by a lot of different things.

They are also boring to fight since they take forever to come back to fight after waiting for X amount of cool downs and get all their buffs from their alts.

A full R9 sin without the 5APS is always better it just costs more.... and hell at least they stay to fight instead of running the minute their first attack fails.

Chaosbeibei - Harshlands

http://i.imgur.com/DY1XL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s0DQi.jpg
b:shutup

_Mg_Zr - Heavens Tear

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Its a 5% chance to get 1x -int 0.05. The odds of getting it twice plus an add like GoF or zerk.. ask one of our forums math folk, but to say almost all get it... the panda thinks not.

The OP seems to be suggesting that somehow getting a godly 3rd cast roll is cheaper than a 3rd cast R9... when all is said an done, Fuzzy suspects it isn't so.

I dont know why he keeps talking about almost all because i have only seen one sin on HT with -0.05 x2 and GoF. And i dont know how many times he re rolled but id imagine r9 is cheaper.
What i have seen alot of though is -0.05 int + SS + another random.

gyroki

@Fuzzy
chance to obtain 1x-0,05 on nv 3rd cast weapon is higher than 5% because you have 3x the chance to get it at 1 try. It would be a 5% chance if recast weapons would have only one attrib next to the unique attrib (which is 40 attack lvls for all nv 3rd cast weapons).

@OP
Its obvious that 5aps sins with nv 3rd cast daggers have to stay with hh99/R8 gear which makes them squishy as hell. The only other ability they have atm to get better base defence stats is to recast r8. Good luck with getting 2-3x -0,05int on R8r chest/boots/wrists, some ppl burnt already billions that way).

@R9 daggers: GoF (20% proc rate!) on a int weapon for a class with ~40% crit rate at end game is op, its insane and a slap into face of all fist/claw users. If u ppl let decide what they prefer, 10 more attack lvls or GoF.. (+ range!) the answer would be clearly GoF.

ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver

this is not g15 where you have 1 unique stat + 2

on g16 there is unique stat attack lv 40

+3 random stats....so chance of getting it twice isnt so bad

but still have to be really lucky

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

R9 players GTFO, k thx bye! At least they put an equivalent to the most insane gear in the game and YEE you CAN farm it not charge your daddy`s or mommy`s credit card to get **** form the cash shop!

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Let the sins have their 5.0 OP daggers... they still die on bramble. b:chuckle

Doqui - Raging Tide

Any sin that makes interval pvp gear is a complete ret ard.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

Doqui - Raging Tide wrote: »

Any sin that makes interval pvp gear is a complete ret ard.

Amen!

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Doqui - Raging Tide wrote: »

Any sin that makes interval pvp gear is a complete ret ard.

Wait what do you mean sins aren't supposed to use the same 6 skills over and over?

Spark Eruption +
Inner Harmony
Wolf Emblem
Maze + Ironguard (or some other Immune to damage apoth/genie)
HeadHunt
Auto attack
Force Stealth and wait for cooldowns to reset to show up again.

b:laugh

_RockHard_ - Lost City

b:laugh how about this we just make all sins damage str based like every other char except archers and AA classses that oughta even the playing feilds quite a bit for starters then you can start QQing.

First off you rolled a sin which is easy mode and they are farm machines as well alot of players only even play sins for farming anymore cause frankly the pvp on them is boring.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wait what do you mean sins aren't supposed to use the same 6 skills over and over?

Spark Eruption +
Inner Harmony
Wolf Emblem
Maze + Ironguard (or some other Immune to damage apoth/genie)
HeadHunt
Auto attack
Force Stealth and wait for cooldowns to reset to show up again.

b:laugh

Stealth - sneak up on smb - tackling slash aps 2 death b:chuckle