How to: LEAF RAIN DRYAD for non OP/ APS sqads

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abslhjkjsdd Posts: 6 Arc User
edited June 2012 in Dungeons & Tactics
Its verry simple:

1. If you want to LURE the boss by any chance, a sin (who for some reasons disnt die a single time while luring eventho he was rather close) or a Mystic, Veno (wich has to sacrifice the pet) would be a option since it onehits most players with DOT if you get close/ run away.

1. DONT attack while the boss selfbuffs itself with the 2 reddish buff symbols. One reflects the (melee) DMG dealt on boss back to the sqad while buffed in the next AOE (the other one selfheals the boss by taking melle DMG?). Venos should try to use PURGE.
(These buffs do possibly not affectes ranged attacks)

2. You need a barb tanking it or a tank with 10k+HP and 20k+ PDEF.
The (random?) DOT wich basically onehits all uncharmed sqad members w/o OP gear doesnt seem to have such a strong effect on classes with High HP and high P-Def. BB doesnt seem to get interrupted anymore as well -as long as the barb was tanking and KEPT AGGRO-. So Sins and APS ppl have to control the dmg output.

Have fun!


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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Its verry simple: DONT attack while the boss selfbuffs itself with the 2 reddish buff symbols AND You need a barb tanking it. The random DOT wich basically onehits all sqad members w/o R9 or super OP gear doesnt seem to have such a strong effect on barbs. BB doesnt seem to get interrupted anymore asl well -as long as the barb KEEPS AGGRO-. So Sins and APS ppl have to control the dmg output.

    Have fun!

    The said tank just needs to have high HP and PDEF. Doesn't have to be a barb, but that's why barbs get affected the least. It is reduced based on HP and Physical Defense. But yes like this and a million other threads. Sins actually have to learn how to manage agro for once. (Unless its a super OP squad which can faceroll it before it buffs. But this doesn't work for SoT.)
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Wow so much detail, maybe little hints like, purge or what the boss says or does before aoeing would be helpful too.
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  • abslhjkjsdd
    abslhjkjsdd Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Wow so much detail, maybe little hints like, purge or what the boss says or does before aoeing would be helpful too.

    Tehres basically everything you need in here. I added some more infos now and restructured it a bit so really everyone can get the infos he needs out of it now.
  • Crones - Heavens Tear
    Crones - Heavens Tear Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Sins could always control the damage just the person tanking would rage that the sin could take aggro so easily, or no one cared. It's called chill of the deep and i use it on my sin when doing the SoT boss. Sage version better than demon in my opinion cuz of the extra 5 atk level. Demon's attack speed not getting reduced so much is lame cuz you should be using skills anyways with chill of the deep on.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Its verry simple:

    1. If you want to LURE the boss by any chance, a sin with dreaden nerves would be my choice since it onehits with AOE. We didnt try with Veno, Mystics tho.

    You realize that the 1shot is folow'd by that bleed that stays when you're dead right?
    If you survive the 1shot, you still get the bleed, which tank kills the sin anyway

    Safest pull is with a pet (that get's 1shot)
    Safest in general is simply pulling the mobs, than attacking with allecracy of the beast as first hit (or anything, as barbs can take it)
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  • Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Its verry simple:

    1. If you want to LURE the boss by any chance, a sin with dreaden nerves would be my choice since it onehits with AOE. We didnt try with Veno, Mystics tho.

    One thing here. when you range pull the boss, it doesn't one-shot-AoE you. It uses a single target bleed that remains after death. The damage of the bleed is dependant on your HP and physical defense, It also ignores damage reduction effects like invoke and bramble hood.

    1. DONT attack while the boss selfbuffs itself with the 2 reddish buff symbols. It reflects the DMG dealt on it while buffed in the next AOE.

    One buff causes melee attacks to heal the boss, the other boss causes melee damage to be reflected as an AoE. I have yet to see either of these buffs trigger on ranged attacks.

    2. You need a barb tanking it.
    The random DOT wich basically onehits all sqad members w/o R9 or super OP gear doesnt seem to have such a strong effect on barbs. BB doesnt seem to get interrupted anymore as well -as long as the barb KEEPS AGGRO-. So Sins and APS ppl have to control the dmg output.

    The bleed DoT isn't random, nor does it one-shot everyone. (see my first point about the bleed damage) Barbs are not necessary. As long as you have more than 10k HP and 20k physical defense, you should have no problem surviving the bleed ticks. (The bleed can also be purified)

    Have fun!


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    Don't forget that venos can purge the boss's IH buff as well.
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    1. If you want to LURE the boss by any chance, a sin with dreaden nerves would be my choice since it onehits with AOE. We didnt try with Veno, Mystics tho.

    Have archer run up and sharp boss.
    1. DONT attack while the boss selfbuffs itself with the 2 reddish buff symbols. It reflects the DMG dealt on it while buffed in the next AOE.

    Archer ignores boss's buff and continue to attack.
    2. You need a barb tanking it.
    The random DOT wich basically onehits all sqad members w/o R9 or super OP gear doesnt seem to have such a strong effect on barbs. BB doesnt seem to get interrupted anymore as well -as long as the barb KEEPS AGGRO-. So Sins and APS ppl have to control the dmg output.

    Archer ignores the barb trying to tank and continue to pull aggro even at half damage. Archer spark purifies cause the cleric continue to ih the barb. Boss dies.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Have archer run up and sharp boss.



    Archer ignores boss's buff and continue to attack.



    Archer ignores the barb trying to tank and continue to pull aggro even at half damage. Archer spark purifies cause the cleric continue to ih the barb. Boss dies.

    This is how I've killed every boss. And.... ask a few people who have run it with me. (One is a forum user named Tweakz)
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    This is how I've killed every boss. And.... ask a few people who have run it with me. (One is a forum user named Tweakz)

    I casted +range buff just as insurance to make sure I am outside of his one shot range. It is actually a bit risky tanking without heals... spark purify and pot is a must. I seems to notice that every time he dots me... he gives me a bit of chi. Almost like him telling me that its time to triple spark. Or maybe I am just not paying enough attention to my own chi bar.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
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  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    This is how I've killed every boss. And.... ask a few people who have run it with me. (One is a forum user named Tweakz)

    This tactic is only for strong archers b:surrender
    Dont tell me every archer can do this b:bye
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I casted +range buff just as insurance to make sure I am outside of his one shot range. It is actually a bit risky tanking without heals... spark purify and pot is a must. I seems to notice that every time he dots me... he gives me a bit of chi. Almost like him telling me that its time to triple spark. Or maybe I am just not paying enough attention to my own chi bar.
    Meh I think it's another one of those Sage Archer is out of AoE radius ranges again. I've never noticed the extra chi.
    This tactic is only for strong archers b:surrender
    Dont tell me every archer can do this b:bye

    Every Archer can still pull without being 1 shot. Every Archer can still attack when that buff is up. Though I'll agree not every archer can tank it. However a well built BM can do it just as fine as a barb. (Thought for ****zNgiggles when I get home from work ill tank it in my old gear my sin uses now)
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Yeah. He seems to give a spark and a half or so if you're in range or somesuch and that spark stays after death much like the bleed DoT.
  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    (Thought for ****zNgiggles when I get home from work ill tank it in my old gear my sin uses now)

    Thread is about how to: LEAF RAIN DRYAD for non OP/ APS sqads
    Use some non OP gear (dont think ur sin has non OP gear) b:bye
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Thread is about how to: LEAF RAIN DRYAD for non OP/ APS sqads
    Use some non OP gear (dont think ur sin has non OP gear) b:bye

    Once again another derp making assumptions. Lets see.. +7 TT99/Nirvana sure is OP... o wait...
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Thread is about how to: LEAF RAIN DRYAD for non OP/ APS sqads
    Use some non OP gear (dont think ur sin has non OP gear) b:bye

    8k hp barb buffed sin tank it... thats 6k non-buffed. I am not sure how more non-op you can get.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Once again another derp making assumptions. Lets see.. +7 TT99/Nirvana sure is OP... o wait...

    A squad with all ppl with nirvana/TT99 +7 is pretty OPb:bye
    And what bow u gonna use R9 ? b:bye
  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    8k hp barb buffed sin tank it... thats 6k non-buffed. I am not sure how more non-op you can get.

    Whats ur gear, u have made comments in this thread that u were tanking.
    I made comment that not every archer can tank it lmao b:bye
  • jabq
    jabq Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Its verry simple:

    1. If you want to LURE the boss by any chance, a sin (who for some reasons disnt die a single time while luring with knife throw) or a Mystic, Veno (wich has to sacrifice the pet) would be a option since it onehits most players with DOT if you get close/ run away.

    Any class can pull, i pulled in the start, 50k hit. I used base apoc next time, no issue. Mine was not a dot, it was one shot.

    1. DONT attack while the boss selfbuffs itself with the 2 reddish buff symbols. One reflects the (melee) DMG dealt on boss back to the sqad while buffed in the next AOE (the other one selfheals the boss by taking melle DMG?). Venos should try to use PURGE.
    (These buffs do possibly not affectes ranged attacks)

    When the boss first came out, this is what we told everyone, and everytime the sin/bm/"i can tank, because i am pro" class kept on attacking when the buff was on. There is no cure for people who have no idea what bosses buff themselves.

    If everyone does stop attacking, aoe damage is in the 100~600 range, bb can easily heal that.


    2. You need a barb tanking it or a tank with 10k+HP and 20k+ PDEF.
    The (random?) DOT wich basically onehits all uncharmed sqad members w/o OP gear doesnt seem to have such a strong effect on classes with High HP and high P-Def. BB doesnt seem to get interrupted anymore as well -as long as the barb was tanking and KEPT AGGRO-. So Sins and APS ppl have to control the dmg output.

    Who ever has agro and can tank it, let them keep it. My 6.7k hp bm can keep agro and do it, if everyone plays nice. Basically it is only a matter of playing nice with squad. If you get a sin who see 100k hp left, demon sparks to go for the kill when boss is buffed, because they can end it in the next 2 seconds, well, you can see how that goes. Ends up taking an extra 5~20 minutes.
    Have fun!


    Ps.: Plz. link this thread on your fac's-website, say thx or reply to this thread, so it appears in google search results as well.

    Just a note for BM's out there. Be kind to your tank and use MSS often, if possible even alternate if 2 bm are in the squad. Get some cheap npc sword to cast it, if you haven't picked up a quest sword yet. Often times the fight will be long out and drawn, you will never have chi to be perma sparked, so might as well use, hf, gs, mss and have fun with other skill.
  • abslhjkjsdd
    abslhjkjsdd Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Thx Squeakytoy for the useful infos. I added them.

    nevertheless.. as long as someone else than a barb was tanking the boss went crazy and (randomly?) tossed the bleed. cleric got hit eventho i was tanking for quite a while already so she couldnt build up heal aggro imo. also BB got interrupted at some point. the whole thing changed completely after the barb joined and the boss was really easy then. Have to verify the hp/ p-def part when its on BH list next time. also the sqad wasnt charmed.



    Is there a close range oneshot wich is not the bleed DOT?
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Thia boss is easy... u just need to not nab spark and walk away...

    Have high HP character (ive seen a sin pull before but he sparked through the damage) pull/attack boss...

    have all classes debuff boss...then attack... example... sin=subsea and rib/ other classes so thier thing...

    most classes will be aps anyways so they will build the chi back...

    when the boss selfbuffs.... stop attacking and stand there doing nothing...

    wait 1 sec... then 3x spark (boss buffs should be gone) and then you can APS him...

    ** YOU MUST WATCH BOSS FOR SELFBUFFS**

    keep trying to debuff when you can...

    boss should die with 4 or so cycles...

    easy boss... the only time ive died on that boss is with nab CS who thing they can just ASP through anything...

    if you havent noticed PWI is going away from APS and more to squad play.. sins better lvl up thier other skills and not just use APS...
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Whats ur gear, u have made comments in this thread that u were tanking.
    I made comment that not every archer can tank it lmao b:bye

    Archer is +12 r9 sage and sin is +4 r8 demon... both tanked fine. Of course not every archer can do this... I have seem 100+ archers with less then 4k hp.


    @Kioshy: So theres a close range doneshot wich is not the bleed DOT?

    There shouldn't be any absolute one shot skill after the initial pull. Although some of the dots can be one shots for people who have no p.def.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    People keep saying "stop attacking when it buffs itself", but forget the addenda... "if you're a high damage melee class." Casters and archers (and sins/BMs using bows) don't need to stop. Seekers can use metal skills. I didn't pull my herc off the one time I did it because, well, the herc just doesn't do enough damage for it to make much of a difference.
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  • Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    People keep saying "stop attacking when it buffs itself", but forget the addenda... "if you're a high damage melee class." Casters and archers (and sins/BMs using bows) don't need to stop. Seekers can use metal skills. I didn't pull my herc off the one time I did it because, well, the herc just doesn't do enough damage for it to make much of a difference.

    I'm not even sure if the buff affects pets or not. Pets are classified as monsters, not as players. But it wouldn't make much difference either way.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    A squad with all ppl with nirvana/TT99 +7 is pretty OPb:bye
    And what bow u gonna use R9 ? b:bye

    Please tell me you're joking. If that's OP I don't even want to know what the hell kind of gear you're using. And no I'd use my old Nirvana Bow I sold 2 years ago. Please use some intelligence before you post. Because My sin can totally use a weapon that was nonexistent and class specific.
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Please tell me you're joking. If that's OP I don't even want to know what the hell kind of gear you're using. And no I'd use my old Nirvana Bow I sold 2 years ago. Please use some intelligence before you post. Because My sin can totally use a weapon that was nonexistent and class specific.

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  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    These archers are clearly trolling. I've seen archers with similar gear repeatedly get 1 shotted by bleed.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    L00ks at Kawii's p0st c0unt again....

    +1ing again? :P
    These archers are clearly trolling. I've seen archers with similar gear repeatedly get 1 shotted by bleed.

    What kind of "similar geared" archers are you talking about? I get hit with MAYBE a 1k bleed inside BB and 800 hits. That's not even close to a 1 shot.
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  • Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    +1ing again? :P



    What kind of "similar geared" archers are you talking about? I get hit with MAYBE a 1k bleed inside BB and 800 hits. That's not even close to a 1 shot.

    I'm fairly certain the bleed damage isn't reduced by BB. That first bleed tick hits me for 36k regardless of what damage reduction effects I have on. Not even bramble hood reduces the damage.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm fairly certain the bleed damage isn't reduced by BB. That first bleed tick hits me for 36k regardless of what damage reduction effects I have on. Not even bramble hood reduces the damage.

    K as I stated before I haven't gotten this 1 hit bleed skill still. I'll assume its some AoE radius thing that I fall out of (like I do with 99% of aoes since my Attack range is 34 meters at max)
    So I don't know. Kiyo uses Galvanic Charge/Aura which helps his demon range exceed it too. So That is my theory.
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    +1ing again? :P



    What kind of "similar geared" archers are you talking about? I get hit with MAYBE a 1k bleed inside BB and 800 hits. That's not even close to a 1 shot.

    QQ I am sure y0ur c0unt was like 720 last week D:<...
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