Weapon of Mass Disconnection

knightsdarksoul

It's kinda laughable tbh, this was a minor issue until your " fix " was posted in another thread, now we have gone from a couple of dozen fish not being able to log in to potentially hundreds of players crashing UNLESS they dl this " fix " . If you hadn't of posted it in the first place they more than likely they wouldn't have needed to


Irresponsible :

Adjective:
(of a person, attitude, or action) Not showing a proper sense of responsibility.

Bubbles - Morai

deusapvp wrote: »

This bug appeared in PW Brazil and was fixed in the latest update.

http://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Flevelupgames.uol.com.br%2Fperfectworld%2Fnoticias%2Fcomunicados%2Fanomalia-no-equipamento-desejo-do-psiquico.lhtml&act=url

So they not only announced that there was a problem but they got a fix for it in their latest patch...

Man wanmei why are you hating on the pwi version. If you allow pwe to clutter up the cash shop with so many packs at least have the decency to treat it fairly. b:scorn

knightsdarksoul wrote: »

It's kinda laughable tbh, this was a minor issue until your " fix " was posted in another thread, now we have gone from a couple of dozen fish not being able to log in to potentially hundreds of players crashing UNLESS they dl this " fix " . If you hadn't of posted it in the first place they more than likely they wouldn't have needed to


Irresponsible :

Adjective:
(of a person, attitude, or action) Not showing a proper sense of responsibility.

It was already exploited on Raging Tides back last week in tw. If I didn't address it now, the issue would be worse because a select few factions would be abusing it for tw and no one would have defense against it.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Gotta agree with deus on this one, this just went from a problem with a couple of players messing up tw on one server, to something that affects everyone. Hopefully now that the problem has been escalated, it will be fixed.

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

It was already exploited on Raging Tides back last week in tw. If I didn't address it now, the issue would be worse because a select few factions would be abusing it for tw and no one would have defense against it.

Yes, because a select few TW people had their TW ruined, the best solution is to give everyone on every server the ability to ruin everyone's game, TW or not. We all know a select few people are harder for PWI to deal with as opposed to a ton of people across all servers. Oh, wait....sorry, but it was totally irresponsible. You're just as bad at PWI when one of their "fixes" goes badly. Whatever, now that it's out there I hope you at least leave it up.

Badazmofo - Dreamweaver

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, because a select few TW people had their TW ruined, the best solution is to give everyone on every server the ability to ruin everyone's game, TW or not. We all know a select few people are harder for PWI to deal with as opposed to a ton of people across all servers. Oh, wait....sorry, but it was totally irresponsible. You're just as bad at PWI when one of their "fixes" goes badly. Whatever, now that it's out there I hope you at least leave it up.

Your statement is both true and false, problem is the ones with the wep who would use this to crash others intentionaly already had the knowledge of the glitch and the means to exploit it. Now everyone is aware of it and has some defence against it.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Badazmofo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Your statement is both true and false, problem is the ones with the wep who would use this to crash others intentionaly already had the knowledge of the glitch and the means to exploit it. Now everyone is aware of it and has some defence against it.

People may have started crashing during a couple of TWs but the problem increased when bubbles posted the patch. There were apparently plenty of people who don't care about crashing others that did NOT have this knowledge. And this isn't the first time it was posted FYI, it was posted in another thread by her as well then moved here so it was easier to spot, exactly because that patch is it's own cure.

Bubbles - Morai

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, because a select few TW people had their TW ruined, the best solution is to give everyone on every server the ability to ruin everyone's game, TW or not. We all know a select few people are harder for PWI to deal with as opposed to a ton of people across all servers. Oh, wait....sorry, but it was totally irresponsible. You're just as bad at PWI when one of their "fixes" goes badly. Whatever, now that it's out there I hope you at least leave it up.

Sorry for not having permissions to force an emergency maintenance when people need it. The only way the issue can be resolved 100% is if everyone has the fix.

Also, the point of that statement was that if a faction figured out how to do it, it was only a matter of time before other people figured it out as well.
I doubt they only used it in tw anyways. I'm quite sure they would've used it in other locations as well.

Do you really think I am the only one giving out the fix? I am pretty sure that by now there have been select groups who have been distributing it on their own for their personal pleasure.

The more you guys treat this like a weapon the more it will become one... If you guys treat it like the unofficial patch it is it will eventually start helping people more than hurt them.

RyuTiger - Raging Tide

So they can crash people with weapon only if they are in PK or without hit them either? I did not know that and i'm kinda worry lol

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Bubble's "fix" fixes the widespread crashes that are a side effect of Bubble's fix.

Cinderball - Raging Tide

I don't really see the problem here to be honest. With how notorious China is with taking months to give the simplest of fixes, a mass-crash inducing bug might have a slight chance of forcing them them to fix a problem for us in a reasonable time frame. If not, people will just QQ about it until they go to the forums or hear from a friend and download the temp fix themselves. At least the fix allows the affected people to play the game again even if it inconveniences everyone else. Something tells me that if this bug was on barrier thorns, there would of been an emergency maintenance within the hour. b:laugh

Revenge - Raging Tide

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

It was already exploited on Raging Tides back last week in tw. If I didn't address it now, the issue would be worse because a select few factions would be abusing it for tw and no one would have defense against it.

please.... tell me which faction on rt exploited this? because as to my knowledge only two people on rt have the r8r soulsphere, both of whom i know personally and dont even log in regularly, both of whom were on today with no knowledge of this even occuring, and both of whom who never installed this "fix" managed to log in with no problem whatsoever. seems to me that this is just some random bs.

Bubbles - Morai

Revenge - Raging Tide wrote: »

please.... tell me which faction on rt exploited this? because as to my knowledge only two people on rt have the r8r soulsphere, both of whom i know personally and dont even log in regularly, both of whom were on today with no knowledge of this even occuring, and both of whom who never installed this "fix" managed to log in with no problem whatsoever. seems to me that this is just some random bs.

Sorry, I don't know.
All I hear of is rumors from different players, since a few players here on the forums had mentioned over and over I thought it would be worth noting.
I haven't seen anyone dismiss those statements yet so it can't be too far off from whatever may have actually happened.

Revenge - Raging Tide

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

Sorry, I don't know.
All I hear of is rumors from different players, since a few players here on the forums had mentioned over and over I thought it would be worth noting.
I haven't seen anyone dismiss those statements yet so it can't be too far off from whatever may have actually happened.

again, sounds to me to be some random butthurt people complaining about losing tw. going through my memory of all the tw factions that actually had tw on rt last week, i can still only think of just 2 psy's with the r8r weapon, and they are both in large factions so their tw's would have gotten more notice if such an event did occur.

Bubbles - Morai

Revenge - Raging Tide wrote: »

again, sounds to me to be some random butthurt people complaining about losing tw. going through my memory of all the tw factions that actually had tw on rt last week, i can still only think of just 2 psy's with the r8r weapon, and they are both in large factions so their tw's would have gotten more notice if such an event did occur.

I see, if that is the case, I'll wait until there is proof of it happening.

Considering that my fix should be available among a decent spread of players, we should be seeing screenies of psys with the bugged weapons on sooner or later.

Also, do keep in the mind the fix changes the look of the psy wep to the non recast r8 model.
Had I known the implications of this fix I would've changed it to something more obvious.
I could still do it, though I don't know if anyone would take advantage of it.

Revenge - Raging Tide

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

Also, do keep in the mind the fix changes the look of the psy wep to the non recast r8 model.
Had I known the implications of this fix I would've changed it to something more obvious.
I could still do it, though I don't know if anyone would take advantage of it.

thats only for those of the playerbase whose installed your fix, i havent had a single problem being around either of those two psys with the wep and i havent installed it. and as i've said neither of them have either and they had no problems loggin in today.

IHazTehDumb - Heavens Tear

I don't feel like I should have to download a user-edited file and risk getting banned just to be able to TW without worry. This is a problem that should have been fixed immediately by the company! I know there aren't a huge number of psychics with recast weapons on HT and I seriously doubt I'll encounter any in TW this weekend, but I still think it's bull**** that PWI has decided to let this remain unfixed. It's obviously an easy fix and it should have been implemented with the last update.

The people with recast soulspheres that go into TW knowing that the opponents may not have the fix installed won't be punished. It's more likely that innocent people that don't even have psychics will get slapped on the wrist for using this fix. Oh wait... PWI doesn't care about the ToS! :P

I don't think Bubbles is the one at fault here. It's PWI.

Dynamyte - Lost City

knightsdarksoul wrote: »

It's kinda laughable tbh, this was a minor issue until your " fix " was posted in another thread, now we have gone from a couple of dozen fish not being able to log in to potentially hundreds of players crashing UNLESS they dl this " fix " . If you hadn't of posted it in the first place they more than likely they wouldn't have needed to


Irresponsible :

Adjective:
(of a person, attitude, or action) Not showing a proper sense of responsibility.

I believe the original purpose of Bubbles' Fix was for psychics to be able to log on their characters again, take off the bugged weap and use a replacement until PWI brings out an official fix. I know she or a few others said to take and keep off the weap cause others may crash. I think most psychics did this... i did. She just wanted to help us psychics, not to unleash this weapon of mass disconnection to be used for bad.

Bubbles gave us psychics with a R8 recast weap the ability to go back in game, after a WEEK of nothing happening on PWI's side, not a warning to R8 recast psys, not a assurance they knew what the problem is and it'd be fixed soon, and the only compensation rumored is 15% off zen sale (wtf?) Last maintenance this bug did nog get fixed even tho it had been in game for a week, AND if they read their tickets and forums, they knew EXACTLY what the problem was.

It is only after last maintenance that Bubbles posted the fix because from the few words we did pick up from PWI it seems it can take several weeks before we would be able to get on our accounts again (i have 2 mains on that account).

The reply i got to my ticket:
Thank you for your report and patience. We are aware that this issue is occurring for several users and have forwarded our found solutions to the developers. They'll be working towards a fix as soon as possible. We estimate that this should be ready within the next few maintenance sessions or less. We'll reply back when the accounts are ready again. We are also looking into compensation for the missing time after everything has been fixed.

One week was a long time of not being able to log on to an account: no dailies, no morai quests, no exploring new content, not being able to participate in events, no farming, no TW, nothing. Now we heard it could be much much longer. I am grateful for Bubbles' fix, tho i used it the way it was intended: to take of the weap, replace it and then play while PWI is 'working towards a fix as soon as possible'. And apparently its a really simple fix too!

The bug is something in the game itself, not something Bubbles created. That the glitch can be exploited is not Bubbles' fault, but of those that exploit it. Cause if the fix is so simple to find (several other players had come up with it too) then it would've gotten out anyway and there would still be people exploiting it. By making this public now Bubbles gives you a chance to arm yourself against the exploit, yes, with possible chance to get banned for altering files, the risk is your own. You could assume that the majority of the (few) psychics with recast R8 weapons are good people and will not exploit this glitch and leave it up to PWi to fix it.

Btw the more you all go complain about this glitch and that people can exploit it, the faster we may get an official fix. But complain to the right ppl, not poor Bubbles who only tried to help really. As i said: she didn't create the bug, nor did she create the people that exploit the bug, she just gave us a fix.

bladerunnerdm

Why did the R8 Recast soulsphere crash the client?

Some model files that was added with the latest patch are broken:

models\weapons\人物\匕首\法宝\20品法宝\tcks_20品法宝\流殇_施放起_女.stck
models\weapons\人物\匕首\法宝\20品法宝\20品法宝.ecm
models\weapons\人物\匕首\法宝\20品法宝\20品法宝.bon
models\weapons\人物\匕首\法宝\20品法宝\20品法宝.smd

all these files contains NULL bytes which make them unreadable for the client!

I_M_Drama - Harshlands

Revenge - Raging Tide wrote: »

again, sounds to me to be some random butthurt people complaining about losing tw. going through my memory of all the tw factions that actually had tw on rt last week, i can still only think of just 2 psy's with the r8r weapon, and they are both in large factions so their tw's would have gotten more notice if such an event did occur.

there are more servers with tws besides Raging Tide. ijs. tons of psy s on LC and HL that have recasted weapon.

i predict this glitch will be fixed right after the entrance of cube of fate is fixed to non pk. close to 4 years now right?

Cocobelle - Sanctuary

Time to get this for my Psychic. b:shutup b:avoid

bladerunnerdm

The elements.data file is usually updated weekly, so it's better to fix the model files:

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=17036011

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

I_M_Drama - Harshlands wrote: »

there are more servers with tws besides Raging Tide. ijs. tons of psy s on LC and HL that have recasted weapon.

i predict this glitch will be fixed right after the entrance of cube of fate is fixed to non pk. close to 4 years now right?

Yes but Rev was saying that unless PROOF of it is shown as happening on RT to stop spreading rumors it was, because like him this thread was the first I had heard of it and I too know the psy's he is talking about and have yet to actually hear anyone in game having this issue. Let alone people saying it happened during TW last week. I TW in 3 different factions each week and we have never used it or had it used against us, so that's 6 TW factions that obviously didn't abuse glitch and we have only I think 10 maybe 12 TW factions (8 or 9 land holders I think atm). For a wide spread glitch that people are abusing there doesn't seem to be PROOF of any abuse.

Eoria - Harshlands

I_M_Drama - Harshlands wrote: »

tons of psy s on LC and HL that have recasted weapon.

Start name dropping HL psys that have this wep so I can troll them, please. There are none to the best of my knowledge.

Changuita - Harshlands

@ Dynamyte I have the exact same email and I didn't care to wait 3-4 weeks (minimum) for this. And though compensation could make it worth waiting... I doubt pwi would ever care enough to do that.

Squishy fishy is logging in. Thank you bubbles.

OH. And to everyone that thinks we will abuse this... we can kill you with our basic r8 anyways... so QQ more. (Also watching people crash around me isn't worth getting banned so why would I?)


THANK YOU BUBBLES.

Divinemetal - Sanctuary

knightsdarksoul wrote: »

It's kinda laughable tbh, this was a minor issue until your " fix " was posted in another thread, now we have gone from a couple of dozen fish not being able to log in to potentially hundreds of players crashing UNLESS they dl this " fix " . If you hadn't of posted it in the first place they more than likely they wouldn't have needed to


Irresponsible :

Adjective:
(of a person, attitude, or action) Not showing a proper sense of responsibility.

Thank god they did post it! LOL if the "fix" finally allows us to log but crashes others in the process, and this results in tech support actually doing their jobs, then I would have to say it's a necessary evil. Dont be mad at bubbles, be mad at tech support for making players resort to such measures. Seriously though, I am considerate enough to not equip the glitched weapon when I realized I was making people crash. Thanks to all who came up with this "fix". I vote to replace tech support with Sizzer, SylenThunder and bubbles

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Divinemetal - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thank god they did post it! LOL if the "fix" finally allows us to log but crashes others in the process, and this results in tech support actually doing their jobs, then I would have to say it's a necessary evil. Dont be mad at bubbles, be mad at tech support for making players resort to such measures. Seriously though, I am considerate enough to not equip the glitched weapon when I realized I was making people crash. Thanks to all who came up with this "fix". I vote to replace tech support with Sizzer, SylenThunder and bubbles

You DO realize PWE is just a distributor right? We get everything from the Chinese Version and THEIR devs. Not ours. Our "tech team" can send all the complaints and things to them as they want. Until we get something from CHINA's DEVS theres nothing they can do.

Revenge - Raging Tide

I_M_Drama - Harshlands wrote: »

there are more servers with tws besides Raging Tide. ijs. tons of psy s on LC and HL that have recasted weapon.

i predict this glitch will be fixed right after the entrance of cube of fate is fixed to non pk. close to 4 years now right?

that may be but read the thread and earlier claims that it was abused ON raging tides. it infact wasn't abused at all. so the people who are complaining on rt about dc'n are just butthurt idiots. as for others servers they werent mentioned as ones abusing this now were they?

knightsdarksoul

Revenge - Raging Tide wrote: »

so the people who are complaining on rt about dc'n

Yeah because no TW ever has mass dc's that have nothing to do with glitch's right ?

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

knightsdarksoul wrote: »

Yeah because no TW ever has mass dc's that have nothing to do with glitch's right ?

How about that time we had a mass DDoS attack for like 3 days straight and they gave us a x2 week for compensation ;p

Revenge - Raging Tide

knightsdarksoul wrote: »

Yeah because no TW ever has mass dc's that have nothing to do with glitch's right ?

because everytime someone dc's in tw, its always due to a glitch right?

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Revenge - Raging Tide wrote: »

because everytime someone dc's in tw, its always due to a glitch right?

If it's more than one person DC'ing at the same time, I'd say something fishy is going on...

No pun intended b:chuckle