I haven't figured out yet

Nenor - Dreamweaver

The boss has 2 self buffs.

One looks like IH, (this can be veno purged). If you attack the boss during this buff, a portion (idk how much) of the attacks will turn into HP gain for boss. Suggest no attacks at this time for no hp regen.

The second is a reddish/pink looking circle buff.(this one isnt veno purgeable) If You attack when the boss has this buff, a portion of the damage you deal (again, idk how much) will be reflected back to the squad in aoe form. If you have high dd during this buff, it can easily cause squad wipe upon aoe. Don't attack .

This boss also has a bleed it casts on the tank. From what we can tell.. the bleed damage is based on your Phy def. Low PD = 1 tick and your dead if you have aggro. High PD= hardly any damage.

For squad success take a good old fashioned barb (seeker may work here also), and let him KEEP aggro. Stop attacking the boss when it has the red circle buffs so the aoes are weak. Stop attacking the boss when it has the IH icon so it doesn't regen hp.

Also, genie lure = 1 hit. Usually like for 25-30k damage. It will also use this massive hit if you pull with a ranged attack. Is best to let the barb just run up to it and give it a good old fashioned barb smack.

Nana_PL - Raging Tide

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

Looks the same as old BH boss.

By the way I think its the most stupid boss ever,like no class aside from barb can approach him without getting 1-shotted,regardless of equip or aps(tried today with a BM at 1.11 aps,1-shot 20k damage),this just utterly stupid.

well thats the point, u as a barb should be happy that pwi let u finally do your job. I'm absolutely in love with this new pwi's idea, think its the best thing they've done in a very long time. They are forcing us to use team work and let the barb tank. I was doing warsong 3 times last night, first time died 3 times on vile version of snake lol. Thn.. hate to admit but used my oold +4 hooks and Chill of the Deep when I've done warsong again. It was rly fun to watch the barb tank something for once, just like good old times when ppl didnt know what aps is and there was no r9 or sins soloing everything in game. I personally can solo many things but still enjoy doing instances the "old" way with a classic squad more . And my barbs friends were rly happy that they finally can do their job again XD.

MagicEmpress - Lost City

Nana_PL - Raging Tide wrote: »

well thats the point, u as a barb should be happy that pwi let u finally do your job. I'm absolutely in love with this new pwi's idea, think its the best thing they've done in a very long time. They are forcing us to use team work and let the barb tank. I was doing warsong 3 times last night, first time died 3 times on vile version of snake lol. Thn.. hate to admit but used my oold +4 hooks and Chill of the Deep when I've done warsong again. It was rly fun to watch the barb tank something for once, just like good old times when ppl didnt know what aps is and there was no r9 or sins soloing everything in game. I personally can solo many things but still enjoy doing instances the "old" way with a classic squad more . And my barbs friends were rly happy that they finally can do their job again XD.

Well yes but they shouldn't make it impossible to do without barb, what if you can't get one?

Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver

MagicEmpress - Lost City wrote: »

Well yes but they shouldn't make it impossible to do without barb, what if you can't get one?

this...or a squad of OP gears

I play many classes...got squad wiped with sin 3x (no barb in squad) in SoT. The boss didn't buff with any of the ones described in this thread. It just 1 hit everyone 1 at a time. I had to replace my sin with my barb to get the job done for the rest of the squad, and have yet to get ANY BH done on my sin since the last patch.

Why couldn't they just increase agro on barb skills to make them more useful again vs **** with BH's?!?! Weren't they supposed to do that a WHILE ago?

YAY, now I have nothing to do other than Morai dailies, and my barb's BH!

tweakz

Nana_PL - Raging Tide wrote: »

well thats the point, u as a barb should be happy that pwi let u finally do your job. I'm absolutely in love with this new pwi's idea, think its the best thing they've done in a very long time. They are forcing us to use team work and let the barb tank. I was doing warsong 3 times last night, first time died 3 times on vile version of snake lol. Thn.. hate to admit but used my oold +4 hooks and Chill of the Deep when I've done warsong again. It was rly fun to watch the barb tank something for once, just like good old times when ppl didnt know what aps is and there was no r9 or sins soloing everything in game. I personally can solo many things but still enjoy doing instances the "old" way with a classic squad more . And my barbs friends were rly happy that they finally can do their job again XD.

Wouldn't be such a problem if the player base wasn't so fail. Warsong for example has been out for years and yet people still run it like nubs even when you tell them what they should do.

Yes: this saves us wine issues, and keeps me from soloing it, and should give casters an advantage BUT; after trying to get my mystic into a squad 10x I gave up and made one. On the other hand; my Sin got in first try. What's funny is my Mystic out performs my Assassin by about 10x on a Sot run! -Player base is the problem. 3 years from now sins will still be preferred over mystic for this despite no dmg reduction for summons (Storm Mistress hitting at ~10k every 1.5s) , supplemental healing when needed, and no effect from bosses melee reduction buff.

it seems like all we have left is derpapsers. b:cry

Cody_tylor - Sanctuary

I guess the devs really did want to nerf the 5.0 APS after all... apparently -interval is useless unless you're permasparking which is true... Now with the patches, there's no point on going high APS anymore somewhat. Instead of taking away the permasparking ability, the devs make a suicidal attempt on some bosses... I am guessing 5.0 APS have ruined the economy with the nirvana / TT spam during 2x events thanks to spark.

Personally the spark needs a massive nerf, along with the genies... People abuse those way too much. Sage is more helpful now in this too because demon spark gives more speed on attacks.

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear

I haven't been on much since patch, but for the few hours I have the only thing I see in WC is people looking for a barb for over an hour to do their bhs and giving up when they run out of teles.

Similarly I see Sins WCing for a bh squad and getting zero response because no one wants them in the party. If BP is useless, if aps is useless, if indeed melee attacking at all pisses off the boss for much of the fight, then what are sins left with besides bow/skill spam?

I think that I'm not too off the mark thinking that many sins out there haven't learned any skills other than BP, deaden nerves, stealth, and demon spark.

Of course I doubt spamming puncture wound and rising dragon would really do much. Most of their skills involve debilitation and rely on crit/auto attacks to cover their dding. So yeah, sins got screwed for a change.

I'm glad that most of my friends have temporarily retired their sin alts, and dusting off their barbs and clerics. I don't really use coin for anything useful in game anymore aside from my last 16 chrono pages so I'm not too concerned with bhs.

I only ever regularly did rb sot and aba anyways, because they were the only fun ones. Now it sounds like they aren't very fun. Same reason I don't do FF or nirv. They may be easy, and give me xp and coin, but they aren't fun for me. They are boring wastes of time, until I start caring about getting nirvana gear which will likely never happen.

Nana_PL - Raging Tide

MagicEmpress - Lost City wrote: »

Well yes but they shouldn't make it impossible to do without barb, what if you can't get one?

Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver wrote: »

this...or a squad of OP gears

I play many classes...got squad wiped with sin 3x (no barb in squad) in SoT. The boss didn't buff with any of the ones described in this thread. It just 1 hit everyone 1 at a time. I had to replace my sin with my barb to get the job done for the rest of the squad, and have yet to get ANY BH done on my sin since the last patch.

Why couldn't they just increase agro on barb skills to make them more useful again vs **** with BH's?!?! Weren't they supposed to do that a WHILE ago?

YAY, now I have nothing to do other than Morai dailies, and my barb's BH!

tweakz wrote: »

Wouldn't be such a problem if the player base wasn't so fail. Warsong for example has been out for years and yet people still run it like nubs even when you tell them what they should do.

Yes: this saves us wine issues, and keeps me from soloing it, and should give casters an advantage BUT; after trying to get my mystic into a squad 10x I gave up and made one. On the other hand; my Sin got in first try. What's funny is my Mystic out performs my Assassin by about 10x on a Sot run! -Player base is the problem. 3 years from now sins will still be preferred over mystic for this despite no dmg reduction for summons (Storm Mistress hitting at ~10k every 1.5s) , supplemental healing when needed, and no effect from bosses melee reduction buff.

it seems like all we have left is derpapsers. b:cry

Yeah.. I agree they could find a better way to make barbs more important again, like nerfing aps, or improving their aggro skills. However I am still happy that they've done at least that much.. I've never played a barb, but I always loved this class and it's been kinda painful for me to see less and less of them every month.. Until the recent patch, all the barbs were needed for, were pulls in FC and TWs... Noone ever wants barbs for nirvana, noone needs them for bhs or TTs cuz we have sins or 5 aps bms now... Thats why I am hoping that this patch will bring alot of our old barbs back into the game and encourage another players to create and level up new barbarians since they will be actually needed. But it's not only about barbs, another example are venos... Yes, they've always been quite welcomed in TT or Nirvana, but noone rly wanted them in bhs, or FC since sins are fast enough to kill everything in one spark so amp wont make too much difference for them... So venos have never been really DESIRED in squads. Now that the new bhs are full of bosses that put nasty buffs on themselves, it's great to have a good veno with u to purge, amp and bramble are always helpful too. When it comes to other casters.. I personally love to have some in my squads, wizard or psychic for delta, warsong ect for their amazing AOEs , mystic, veno ect for anything else. It's kind of rare for me not to have a single caster in my squad. I dont have a patience to play one, and its not my playing style so magic classes are not for me, but I absolutely love them in my squads . Extra heal is sweet too

scarfaceclaw

Guys guys guys, this boss (leaf rain i havnt done the other) isnt anti-APS, it's pro-APS.

Because the best way to kill it is to have a squad of all APS, with at least one BM.

Everyone sparks, BM HF's, boss dies in 3 seconds b4 it even thinks about buffs.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

scarfaceclaw wrote: »

Guys guys guys, this boss (leaf rain i havnt done the other) isnt anti-APS, it's pro-APS.

Because the best way to kill it is to have a squad of all APS, with at least one BM.

Everyone sparks, BM HF's, boss dies in 3 seconds b4 it even thinks about buffs.

Indeed, last time when we did it he dropped without buffing up, was 3 BM`s, ***, kitty and a cleric, SS,HF, tangling + sparks did the trick fast.