Mystic or..
__Jhuv - Sanctuary
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Well, I know this is the mystic's section but I'm telling to all the mystics who have played a cleric for long/few time.. Which one would you choose if you really liked em both? Cleric or mystic? And why? ))
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Mystic. I lvled a cleric to 75 a long time ago as my first main. Quit it to lvl a wizzie because I liked healing, but I got tired of only healing. Most 10x clerics I know are kinda tired of it as well. I've seen clerics in caster nirv argue about which one should heal primarily. lol I prefer mystic because you have the ability to heal well, but are not always expected to stick to that role.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Well it depends on a) do you like to multitask b) do you prefer dd over healing or is healing your primary playing style?
I get bored if I can't multitask - spamming IH over and over or BBing puts me to sleep. Granted because of the buffs/res/debuffs, clerics are technically "better" at support (the lack of stackable heal over time kinda puts a dent in mystics healing capabilities in pvp support situations), but they don't have the functionality of a mystic. Also when you're cleric you are expected to heal (goodness forbid you tempest). Mystic is sometimes regarded as a cleric replacement or sometimes just a dd with a smexy buff. Depends on the squad.
I've had times where people scream at me to bb even though I prefer to do actual healing (sage ironheart yo, paid for it, imma use it). So cleric can get irksome often. In FC I found that at 90+ my vital and healing herb did enough heal on all bosses that I could straight up dd, didn't even need sal unless some squishy sin was insistent on tanking. While overall mystic seems to hit a lot lower and burst heals for a lot less, they're still a lot of fun and being able to dd with a pet and skills while healing with herbs is still more dd than if a cleric was spamming ih/chroma/stream the whole time.
I haven't tried mystic in pvp and I dont necessarily want to because herbs seem like they'd be a huge pain to manage in a situation where you're constantly moving. If you're going for pvp that is something to consider.Ling__Tong 101 bm ~ PheosNyx 103 wiz ~ Arande 100 HArcher ~ xXxKuro 100 barb ~ AnselTyme 101 cleric ~ lukeFONfabre 96 seeker ~ Tori_Anzu 90 mystic ~ KateiiHimura 95 veno ~ Artemaeus 58 psy. Playing since April 2009.0 -
If you don't like healing all the time you would not enjoy it unless you were acting as a DD in caster nv..but on the bright side as a Cleric gv is your best friend considering you can go afk there b:byeFilling the forums with idiocy since 2/2/2012 b:pleased
Main - lvl 101 R8 Mystic - Dariboo
Inactive on PWI. I still play PW, just...elsewhere0 -
I have a cleric 102, cleric 101, wizz 101 and now i lvl a mystic (curently lvl 95)
Volt is right i pretty much get bored to ''heal'', but i played 2 cleric both lvled normally.
I personnally loved play wizz but as cleric myself i know recognize good and bad cleric and unfortunatly i always was in squad with bad clerics and dying all the time.
Its why i made a mystic i can DD and assist if the cleric suck (so safe my life).
I love play mystic, its not stuck as just healer or just DD.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Everybody plays mystic differently. I'd say if you're up to some healing and dding, go mystic. It's a combination of both.
Meanwhile, the idea that mystics don't heal as well as clerics I find to be personally untrue. Sometimes we're better than clerics in some situations. For example, in FCC we can just drop our herbs and DD with the rest of the squad. Clerics usually stick to just healing, and they can't DD at all in BB mode. The only time I have had trouble healing is in two instances so far.
In TW we don't have healing over time, but we have Salvation shields that tanks have told me they love. We also have Falling Petals. I usually buff whoever is close range to me and they can wander off for a minute with a healing buff on them. IH just lasts for 15 seconds or so. Demon Falling Petals is even better for TW, it lasts for four minutes.
As for DDing, it's all about the right combos. We can hit as hard as psychics. A good tip is energy leeching your pets to reach high DDing. I think it's not like other classes where you can just set off one skill and hit high damage, you need to combine other skills to get a good outcome.
So it's a fun class to try out all sorts of things for different roles.Dumbledore: Lily... after all this time?
Snape: Always.0 -
Demon falling petals is five minutes.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Mystics for play: Clerics for buffs. Cleric for Warsong/RB; Mystic for else.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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I would say go with Mystic. Mainly cuz in the 20-30 Cleric have trouble staying alive.Born to be an Assassin, raised as a Thief.
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The Mystic.
As others have said, its a well rounded char that does a little bit of everything. I was a healer in another MMO for more than 2 years, so the thought of continuing to stare at healh bars was really boring to me when I started playing PWI.
The Mystic is perfect for me because it keeps me busy. I dont look at my char as heal support, or DD support alone - I look at my Mystic as FULL support, and play both roles in any squad.
However, if you dont care about being kept real busy in a squad, dont mind staring at health bars all the time, and simply adore being always wanted for squads, the Cleric would be the way to go.
If you love them both, then by all means play both. It's not like anyone is forcing you to chose between them b:pleased0 -
VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »Demon falling petals is five minutes.
Sorry about that. I meant an *additional* four minutes. So yes, five minutes total.Dumbledore: Lily... after all this time?
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mm dont know if u know.. but... demon failing petals = MUCH BETTER than 3casts of IH...
in pvp i cast 1 petals on me and it lets me survive the fist stun+aps of the sin/bm, when using dew of protection or a 8secs inmune (FTW).
with others clases... they just dont survive so much to see me healing from petals...
For barbs... (OMG i love BARBS) they cant kill me... i can kill them, but when i know they have a charm and im not ganked (when i know its just a 1vs1 without hidden sins) i just stay there for ager TROLLING their charm untill they just try to scape (LOL) b:byeb:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Fist i started a Cleric :lv 20 2008
2nd a Veno: lv 81 2009
3rd an Assassin: lv 91 (****) 2010
4th o.0 Assassin: lv 101 (cool)
5th Mystic FTW b:dirty0 -
I've tried both cleric and mystic... And I adore my mystic.
Although I hate the mp ****(I'm ALWAYS clicking my mana pots) I feel like the mystic is faster, better, and more fun. (and cuter than my cleric )
The heals aren't as good, but they're fast. SPAMSPAMSPAM.
The rez buff is super dee duper useful(I always rez buff me and the cleric, just because it's mana ****.)
Having a summon is useful! I'm super squishy, but my Devil Chihyu isn't. My cleric is squishy with no aggro stealer.
It's hard to find squads, but then I just bring up the fact that I can heal and most squads are more than happy to accpet me.
Mystic wins. Fatality b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Let me live my life, and I'll try not to make yours a living hell.b:victory0 -
Atriste - Sanctuary wrote: »Although I hate the mp ****(I'm ALWAYS clicking my mana pots) I feel like the mystic is faster, better, and more fun. (and cuter than my cleric )
I don't know where people get this mana drain idea from. My cleric and mystic both share the same equips. My cleric needs so much more MP, and I rarely need to pot with Mystic. Maybe you're doing wasteful / unneeded things like dropping plants for each mob when grinding? -Maybe over healing? AoE grinding can be draining, but that's true for any class.0 -
I see what you are saying thumbs, and I guess every Mystic could slow their MP use up a bit, but the reason I love playing my Mystic so much is that I can literally get lost in using all it has to offer.
Like the concept of needlessly throwing down plants. It doesnt exist for me. The joy I get from the Mystic is being so dang vulnerable, yet throwing myself in the middle of the frey and using everything I have to emerge victorious.
Its kind of a rush for me. Sometimes I get so caught up between the plants, summon spells & genie spells and my normal Mystics spells that I literally lose track for a second of which plant I have down or whether I need a heal or not, lol.
I could just heal or just lightly DPS, but I love using everything the Mystic has to offer at once and continuously. Why should I limit what the Mystic can do, when the gamer in me wants nothing more than to test my Mystics limits?
I actually pull several mobs while Im grinding for quests. Place falling petals on myself and running around just like any other less squishy DPS collecting them up till they slow me up, then another falling petals and start shooting at any nearby stragglers to add to the collection, before unleasing rapid growth, thicket and gale force & my chosen summons spells on the whole mess, finishing them off with whatever seems best afterward and isnt still in CD.
Thats fun for me, and I accept burning mana and gobbling up Chi to get that rush in the game. Im not sure that what I just described is something that anyone can experience soloing on their cleric. But anyone with the desire CAN experience it on a Mystic.
It may not be for everyone, but thats how I like to play my Mystic.
Mystics do burn mana like dry tinder, and gobble up Chi like a starving dog gobbles down food under those conditions, but to me its definately worth it!
To me, full Delta is a boring mana burn. I mostly use Craggy and my Vital herb in that tough instance, and can still go through 300 to 500K MP in the process of all 9 waves. b:shocked
I wont comment on a cleric, because mine never got beyond level 5. xD0
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