Out of Curiosity.

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Ignore the fact full r9 will outshine with attack levels with what I'm going to suggest, But why don't clerics roll mixed full nirvana + r9. It's cheaper and you will obtain more defense levels. Yes R9 will have a slightly higher base defense, but the TT nirvana % bonus when stacked can come close. Or do the r9 add-ons really outshine Nirvana as well? Thoughts on this?

Nirvana Set(100 Defense levels)

14k Pdef and Mdef

R9 Set (98 Defense levels)

15.5k Pdef and Mdef


Edit: Also the chance of g16 Stage 3 Nirvana coming soon seems tempting as well.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's cheaper and you will obtain more defense levels

It's cheaper indeed. That is, if you have the luck of the devil and get 4 sockets on all your nirvy pieces.

Otherwise, the costs would be about equal (the ring, belt and weapon are what makes r9 so pricy, but you use them in both builds), yet r9 has more HP/def and, like you said, attack.

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's cheaper indeed. That is, if you have the luck of the devil and get 4 sockets on all your nirvy pieces.

Otherwise, the costs would be about equal (the ring, belt and weapon are what makes r9 so pricy, but you use them in both builds), yet r9 has more HP/def and, like you said, attack.

Hmm I suppose the socketing/chiekuns could be a bit expensive, however the gear would be stashable for multiple arcane classes (besides as you stated the expensive pieces of r9.)

With the upcoming rumor of 3rd stage nirvana it makes me wonder is all. -_-

That and I might gear my cleric up to one of these standards.

Eoria - Harshlands

I was going to do something like this before I totally gave up on r9ing my cleric. My Nirvana top/pants/wrists were already 4soc so I was gonna do r9 belt+boots and replace my Cloudcharger with the Lunar Nirvana cape so as to not break set bonus. Top it all off with the r8 recast glaive with def levels.

Then I decided I just didn't care much anymore.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

With the upcoming rumor of 3rd stage nirvana it makes me wonder is all. -_-

It being stashable is nice, I suppose, but the r9 weapon/belt/ring still aren't. You'd still have gaps to fill on those alts.

I don't see nirvana armor working quite as well on a more offensive caster class either, but that's just me.

Weren't there rumors of another r9 recast as well?

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

I was going to do something like this before I totally gave up on r9ing my cleric. My Nirvana top/pants/wrists were already 4soc so I was gonna do r9 belt+boots and replace my Cloudcharger with the Lunar Nirvana cape so as to not break set bonus. Top it all off with the r8 recast glaive with def levels.

Then I decided I just didn't care much anymore.

lol I almost forgot about r8 recast.. -_- that and PWcalc doesn't work right with it still.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It being stashable is nice, I suppose, but the r9 weapon/belt/ring still aren't. You'd still have gaps to fill on those alts.

I don't see nirvana armor working quite as well on a more offensive caster class either, but that's just me.

Weren't there rumors of another r9 recast as well?

Yes there would be alts but that wouldn't be that big of an issue.
And for alts it would be purely for PvE I have my archer for PvP . Cleric would be incase I wanted to do multiple TWs or something on my other account with it.
Yes there is rumors for a 2nd cast r9 but unless they release the wedding candies for first recast... you're looking at over 3billion coins easy just to get the first recast....

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes there would be alts but that wouldn't be that big of an issue.
And for alts it would be purely for PvE I have my archer for PvP . Cleric would be incase I wanted to do multiple TWs or something on my other account with it.
Yes there is rumors for a 2nd cast r9 but unless they release the wedding candies for first recast... you're looking at over 3billion coins easy just to get the first recast....

For TW's I suppose the R8R glaive with def levels or Purify (Purify would be better if you sharded JoSD already, but it's a less commonly rolled stat) would be better, but I wouldn't count on it being any cheaper than r9 with all the possible rerolls you might need.

With that I suppose you might as well skip r9 entirely and get a better (and refinable) belt along with another Sky Cover and the nirvana set. That way you have almost an entire set (apart from the weapon) that you can share between alts.

You might be able to recast the nirvana set later as well, but I have my doubts on it being reasonably priced b:sweat

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's cheaper indeed. That is, if you have the luck of the devil and get 4 sockets on all your nirvy pieces.

Otherwise, the costs would be about equal (the ring, belt and weapon are what makes r9 so pricy, but you use them in both builds), yet r9 has more HP/def and, like you said, attack.

ikr ._. atm im one of those trying to get a 4th socket on nirvy gear
16000 socket stones well over 180M

apex1predator

R9 set gives 2% more phys protection and 1% more mag. While its not a lot the difference is enough to put both sets on par. but id go for the r9 purely for the extra hp. If you have the money to refine and shard nirvana gear to that lvl(not to mention making 4 sockets) you will go R9 and get nirvana for your alt anyway.

Ahira - Lost City

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ignore the fact full r9 will outshine with attack levels with what I'm going to suggest, But why don't clerics roll mixed full nirvana + r9. It's cheaper and you will obtain more defense levels. Yes R9 will have a slightly higher base defense, but the TT nirvana % bonus when stacked can come close. Or do the r9 add-ons really outshine Nirvana as well? Thoughts on this?

Nirvana Set(100 Defense levels)

14k Pdef and Mdef

R9 Set (98 Defense levels)

15.5k Pdef and Mdef


Edit: Also the chance of g16 Stage 3 Nirvana coming soon seems tempting as well.

Like Apex said- if you're going to invest that sort of money in refines/shards/socketing then would you really be worrying about r9 gear being a bit more expensive than nv gear. Anyhow just switch the r9 belt for warsong (as you're not bothered about attack levels) and you'll have more def level's, pdef, HP and with a similar mdef.

I just dont get it sorry! =[

Decus - Dreamweaver

I actually prefer the JR belt now since (at least on DW) it's cheaper to get a g15/16 belt that refines better than the warsong one. It's up to you, you do lose out on some HP but you gain some nice pdef bonuses.

Elanxu - Dreamweaver

and this is why some people do choose to do the mixed nirvy set with r9. but u cant just ignore 25 attack levels. thats a load of extra damage. mixed nirvy with r9 is almost as good, but still a bit away from full r9.