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CritCat - Archosaur
CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
edited May 2012 in Assassin
To increase the DPS of this build?

http://pwcalc.com/7557836f1d032a65

I can only think of G15s, but I keep thinking that I'm missing something.
And I wonder if attack levels>Dexterity in the long run.

If that's so, I can go with 2x Sky Covers.

It's demon, by the way.b:kiss
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Current Sin Build:
pwcalc.com/b6540a34278d977d
Current Wizard Build:
pwcalc.com/068f7e40791a3be6
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    well, you could get 7 dex 7 str at your cape but 1 point is kinda pointless xd

    i think that the only significant improvement would be with ideal g15 daggers/recast armor
    you only purge once #yopo
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Sharding the bracers would help, but I'mma assume that was just a mistake b:chuckle

    Getting recast rank 8 boots with -0.1 int (or the top or bracers with -0.15 int) in order to get to 5 aps is the only thing I can think of.
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Sharding the bracers would help, but I'mma assume that was just a mistake b:chuckle

    Getting recast rank 8 boots with -0.1 int (or the top or bracers with -0.15 int) in order to get to 5 aps is the only thing I can think of.

    Oops, I fix'd that.b:surrender
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    Current Sin Build:
    pwcalc.com/b6540a34278d977d
    Current Wizard Build:
    pwcalc.com/068f7e40791a3be6
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    To increase the DPS of this build?

    http://pwcalc.com/7557836f1d032a65

    I can only think of G15s, but I keep thinking that I'm missing something.
    And I wonder if attack levels>Dexterity in the long run.

    If that's so, I can go with 2x Sky Covers.

    It's demon, by the way.b:kiss

    Current DPS: 357,011

    By swapping your engravings from str and dex to Patk+40 and Dex, you get 361,304. If Patk +40 x 2 is possible, then by swapping to that you would get 364,714.

    Other than that, there's getting +10 dex on both pieces of Nirvana armor.

    And of course, there's the option of getting recast R8 armor for 5 aps R9.
    I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • Lorthos - Raging Tide
    Lorthos - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    No idea, the only thought i can come up with, not even sure if its true is to try and get Hexsin's Daggers (+12 Netherworld Guidance Gof -.10 int) But the number of times you'd have to reroll those daggers for those adds is just stupid to think about.

    Also, if you had those daggers you could have sage Dagger devotion, for better APSing.
    and still spam windshield for 5.0 if you REALLY wanted it.
  • Lorthos - Raging Tide
    Lorthos - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Current DPS: 357,011


    Where is the formula for calculating DPS, I've been looking everywhere for it but i can't find it :x
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    wow no ponies yet
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    wow no ponies yet

    You just had to mention it, didn't you?

    inb4
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Where is the formula for calculating DPS, I've been looking everywhere for it but i can't find it :x

    Well, without cleaning, it would take the following form:
    (minDmg+maxDmg)*0.5*(1+(rageDamage-1)*(crit/100))*aps*(1+(attackLevel/100))*(1+SS/GoF))

    Which can be better put as:
    avgDmg = (minDmg+maxDmg)*0.5
    critMultiplier = (1+(rageDamage-1)*(crit/100))
    dpsMultiplier = aps
    atkLevelMultiplier = (1+(attackLevel/100))
    GoF/SS Multiplier = 1.2 (GoF) / 1.15 (SS)

    So you get avgDmg * critMultiplier * dpsMultiplier * dpsMultplier * atkLevelMultiplier * GoF/SS.

    Not getting the right result means you're misinterpreting something.

    Though personally I just do:
    Min + Max = Something
    Something * 0.5 = Average DPH
    Average DPH * (1+(1.0/1.2)*crit)) = Final Average DPH
    FA DPH * APS = DPS
    DPS * 1+(attack level/100) * (1.0/1.15/1.2) = Final DPS

    Note, the (1.15/1.2) does not mean 0.72463768115942028985507246376812, but rather that you pick 1.0, 1.15 or 1.2 depending on whether you have: No mod / Sacrificial Strike / GoF. Similarly, the 1.0/1.2 in the Final Average DPH just means to pick either 1.0 or 1.2 depending on whether you're counting for an Assassin or not. Assassins owuld get a 1.2 multiplier because of Wolf Emblem.

    wow no ponies yet
    You just had to mention it, didn't you?

    inb4

    I wouldn't be so sure of that anymore.
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    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    I love ponies b:dirty
    [SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony[/SIGPIC]
    Vicious's Brony. Brohoof!
    youtube.com/user/SkaiPW - Assassin PvE/PvP Videos!
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    I love ponies b:dirty

    You sick pervert! Bet you offer candy to little children too.

    b:cute
    I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    You sick pervert! Bet you offer candy to little children too.

    b:cute

    D:

    If I was a sick pervert I'd post something like this.
    [SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony[/SIGPIC]
    Vicious's Brony. Brohoof!
    youtube.com/user/SkaiPW - Assassin PvE/PvP Videos!
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    You just had to mention it, didn't you?

    inb4

    it was inevitable b:nosebleed
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    D:

    If I was a sick pervert I'd post something like this.
    Omg wtf was that? x_x

    Oh and yay ponies :D
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    D:

    If I was a sick pervert I'd post something like this.
    actually if you were a sick pervert you would post something like.....
    oh wait, ill make olbaze mad b:surrender

    edit: why did you look that up x.x
  • Geshwur - Raging Tide
    Geshwur - Raging Tide Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Using ([Min + max]/2) x APS x (1+[crit%/100]) x (1+[Attack level/100]) x 1.20 (GoF)

    Current DPS

    337,713.768 DPS

    With this build

    DPS would be 346,574.491

    All I did was change out str engraving for +40 on each ring (adjusting base stats accordingly) and +12 dex, and reforge the hat and pants to +10 dex each instead of the +6 that was on there.

    Also, if anyone has a better formula please tell me xD Mine seems a bit off from the one Olba used.
    Current Gears
    pwcalc.com/90f636550cbd5beb
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Using ([Min + max]/2) x APS x (1+[crit%/100]) x (1+[Attack level/100]) x 1.20 (GoF)

    Current DPS

    337,713.768 DPS

    With this build

    DPS would be 346,574.491

    All I did was change out str engraving for +40 on each ring (adjusting base stats accordingly) and +12 dex, and reforge the hat and pants to +10 dex each instead of the +6 that was on there.

    Also, if anyone has a better formula please tell me xD Mine seems a bit off from the one Olba used.

    The +dex mod is capped at +11.

    Also, the reason your numbers are off is because I factored in Wolf Emblem, which is just a 1.2 multiplier to the crit% before you add it to the 1. So the multiplier becomes 1+1.2*crit%.
    I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • Geshwur - Raging Tide
    Geshwur - Raging Tide Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    The +dex mod is capped at +11.

    Also, the reason your numbers are off is because I factored in Wolf Emblem, which is just a 1.2 multiplier to the crit% before you add it to the 1. So the multiplier becomes 1+1.2*crit%.

    Ahh, I thought the +dex was capped at 11, but even so, my build would increase her DPS, and with her being demon you shouldn't factor in 20% wolf emblem, she may have demon which is 40%, and without that information factoring in emblem at all can be misleading, but thanks for the info on why our numbers were off b:thanks

    But reforging nirvy for max dex isn't that expensive and is a way to increase DPS, albeit only slightly.
    Current Gears
    pwcalc.com/90f636550cbd5beb
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    ... If I could figure how to report posts on this forum, you'd be on my list.

    Not because of ponies. INAPPROPRIATE **** IS INAPPROPRIATE!

    b:angry

    Plus I kinda figure if I summon a mod here, 93% of the forum is going to get Lower Depthed and then we'll have the remaining 7% locked as necros.
    wanna see me make him mad again?
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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    Ahh, I thought the +dex was capped at 11, but even so, my build would increase her DPS, and with her being demon you shouldn't factor in 20% wolf emblem, she may have demon which is 40%, and without that information factoring in emblem at all can be misleading, but thanks for the info on why our numbers were off b:thanks

    But reforging nirvy for max dex isn't that expensive and is a way to increase DPS, albeit only slightly.

    I always factor Wolf Emblem as 20% because Sage is permanent 20% and Demon is 40% at 50% active time, thus it averages out to 20%. Of course, that's untrue if we're talking about something that only lasts 30 seconds but that's not too likely.
    I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.