Which Year Hurt the Most?

Jay_Dubbz - Lost City

Which Year hurt the game and annoyed you the most? I'm gonna say 2011, 2010 was bad but last year was just super disappointing.


2009
GMs in game
A guy with spoons
Ages of Spirit Expansion
Genies
PVP changed
Anniversary Packs
Tokens
Gold starting to rise
Tideborn Expansion
Public Quest
New Questline
Hats for Characters
Sin is op?

2010
No more spoons
New CM Frankieraye
Hypers
BH
Hyper + Frost
Many lvl 100 characters
Aps
Rank 9
Beginning of unbalanced TW
Rank 8 cheaper
BH 100
Interval Nirvana
Casters QQ
TT Difficulty increase
Nirvana Difficulty increase
TW rewards change
Jones Blessing
Massive QQ on forums
Sin is definitely op
Archers with claws

2011
Genesis
Selling frost big room or heads got popular
Lvl 100 mystic and seekers days after update
Two pointless classes
QQ for rank 9 on new classes
Trials Content
Guild Bases
No guild base wars
First lvl 105
Frost glitch
Crazy refine sale
TW change again
1.9mil gold price
General Summer Super Sale, Rank 8 and 9 super cheap

2012
Descent Update
New skills
Morai
Frost glitch fix
No glitchers banned
Caster NV glitch fix
GV glitch fix
Aps wanna be fix
TW change again
Constant rep is on sale

Xainou - Sanctuary

2007.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Jay_Dubbz - Lost City wrote: »

2010
Massive QQ on forums

Good times, good times.

I can't really decide between 2010 or 2011...

John_Smith - Harshlands

2011 placed the nails on the coffin, 2012 hammered them into the lid.

Jay_Dubbz - Lost City

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Good times, good times.

I can't really decide between 2010 or 2011...

I say 2011 because Genesis was the chance to turn everything around, and yea the opposite happened lol

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Right now so far I'd say 2012, mainly due to the TW map reset. Because every faction knows that their territory they own will not be there in half a year, they lose motivation to really TW.

TW is really the only end-game thing anyone who has full r9+12 endgame sharded people can do for fun (besides dead pk), and altering that when it has absolutely no problem really ended fun competition.

KingCrash - Dreamweaver

2010 personally. When I started around the same time the GMs were changed with new ones who are completely cut off from the player base now. I would have loved to have been able to have duels with GMs that knew how to play, and to participate in the interactive events they held that I hear a lot about.

Also, I hear of this Duke Rose fiasco that might have occurred that year or prior to it. And don't forget to list the +11/+12 Dragon Orb sale that only lasted a day that got removed with the excuse of client instability. Oh that was a laugh in a half.

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

2010.

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

For me, 2009.

Assassins ruined this game for me. Player skill was lost after this moment.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Jay_Dubbz - Lost City wrote: »

I say 2011 because Genesis was the chance to turn everything around, and yea the opposite happened lol

Genesis wasn't that bad in my opinion, but indeed not enough to redeem what happened before it...

Also, let me make a prediction:

2012:
Private servers catch up with PWI content.

John_Smith - Harshlands

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Genesis wasn't that bad in my opinion, but indeed not enough to redeem what happened before it...

Also, let me make a prediction:

2012:
Private servers catch up with PWI content.

Prediction? It's already happened. b:laugh

Xainou - Sanctuary

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Also, let me make a prediction:

2012:
Private servers catch up with PWI content.

There's already at least 2 servers with all classes and nearly up to date content. b:surrender

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

John_Smith - Harshlands wrote: »

Prediction? It's already happened. b:laugh

Not on the one I'm on (yet), but apparently others indeed do b:avoid

Let's change that to ''players move to them en masse'', then. b:chuckle

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not on the one I'm on (yet), but apparently others indeed do b:avoid

Let's change that to ''players move to them en masse'', then. b:chuckle

It will be up-to-date private servers that offer more than PWI, as well as other new MMOs coming out as competition, that will be PWI's downfall.

No need to mention the GM/Dev base, as they rarely post on any player thread on General Discussion.


I still only play PWI due to my subscriber base and friends ingame.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

A few things missing:

2008
Nix / Herc released (Nix bleed (glitched?) destroys everyone with the gear of this time)

2009
Duke Rose Exploit (massive inflation, no coins were ever removed)
Iron Hammer + Chest of Coins (gold price increases by 60% overnight)
Oracles (people oracled to 100 in a few days)
Ocean orbs first sold
Losing Refines / Gems on Nirv recast after being told it was an "upgrade"

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

2009
Duke Rose Exploit (massive inflation, no coins were ever removed)

I missed that one (probably quit at the time), but I heard it generated gold/coins somehow? How did that work?

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

2010 for me personally, that was when the playerbase started getting really grouchy. And people stopped being as easy to get talking in random squads.

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I missed that one (probably quit at the time), but I heard it generated gold/coins somehow? How did that work?

You could npc the duke rose fashion for like either 1 or 3 mil each or something.
Funny how now that would not even be worth it Since gold was like 120k back then.

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I missed that one (probably quit at the time), but I heard it generated gold/coins somehow? How did that work?

Glitch meant that duke rose top (?) could be NPCed for 2m (?) coins, instantly pinning gold to 2m/3 (?)

Not sure about exact values but the idea is there.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I missed that one (probably quit at the time), but I heard it generated gold/coins somehow? How did that work?

I believe there was a quest available from the mailbox that let you trade in a duke rose top for 30 dyes that each NPCd for 100k

That made the top worth 3m but it only cost 3 gold to buy. This was when gold was 100k. It generated massive amounts of coin and it was impossible to buy gold from the AH since they had a gold price cap of 1m. They ended up having an emergency maintenance that same day and removed the duke rose set from the boutique (*gasp* a reaction time of less than a day!?). They never removed any of that coin (so the people that bought up all that coin cheap got to keep it). They banned at least some of the people that sold it though the next day.

If this was still around today you wouldn't be able to make a profit from it since gold is over 1m. A similar effect today would have to cause 10m gold (although gold is currently capped at 4m).

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Losing Refines / Gems on Nirv recast after being told it was an "upgrade"

Reminds me of this video. b:sad

XTrigger - Archosaur

2009 for 1 reason only. Anniversary packs. These lil things are the root of all the greed now seen today imo b:surrender

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

Reminds me of this video. b:sad

Hehe... at the end there...

'''NNOOOOOO'' b:chuckle

To be fair though, it did say in the menu before recasting that you need Chienkun Stones b:lipcurl

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hehe... at the end there...

'''NNOOOOOO'' b:chuckle

To be fair though, it did say in the menu before recasting that you need Chienkun Stones b:lipcurl

They didnt have Chienkuns available at the start and the advertisement for Nirv gear said that you will be able to use materials to keep your refines.

Before this though they had a massive orb sale + cheap gold TT mats + pack gems. The message was "Go ahead and refine + deck out your TT99 gear because you will be able to keep all of that with Nirvana upgrade". People were really pissed they were tricked into investing in gear they'd have to throw away.

In response PWE released chienkuns some time later but at a price point where it didn't really save anyone any money lol.

prof

2009. anniversary packs, genies, and tideborn destroyed this game.

now its also destroyed private servers, also.

KingCrash - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I would have loved to have been able to have duels with GMs that knew how to play, and to participate in the interactive events they held that I hear a lot about.

you heard wrong then. one of the qualifications for being a gm in pw is to know nothing about the game(anyone remember being banned for "hiding in catapults", because not even gm's knew how to click through npcs and thought it was a cheat?). when i still played back in 08, and gm's would stand around flaunting their "prestigious" title, players would ask questions they couldn't even begin to answer.

i actually recall a certain gm lying to a large amount of players about an in-game feature.

when i corrected this certain gm, and called him on his lie, i got muted for 7 days.

i remember when gm's thought wushu helmets were gained through an exploit, and banned a few of my friends because i told them how to get them. strength tournament was then removed a week later. they're still banned.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

They didnt have Chienkuns available at the start and the advertisement for Nirv gear said that you will be able to use materials to keep your refines.

Before this though they had a massive orb sale + cheap gold TT mats + pack gems. The The message was "Go ahead and refine + deck out your TT99 gear because you will be able to keep all of that with Nirvana upgrade". People were really pissed they were tricked into investing in gear they'd have to throw away.

In response PWE released chienkuns some time later but at a price point where it didn't really save anyone any money lol.

Ah yes, that rings a bell. PWE didn't really want to release Chienkuns at all, but they were more or less forced to after that b:sweat

Kinjeto - Raging Tide

* When they started putting the dungeon speed run items (like the -0.05 APS cloak) in the bloody pack/the rings from the lunar dungeons for that matter in the pack. When they made the bosses in TT insanely stupidly hard and put the orange mats in the packs cause the 5.00 APS was 'a problem' so hence milking the money cow for all its worth.

* When rank wasn't earnt anymore. Making discouragement of players of EVERY VERSION of Perfect World to not pursue goals like getting Rank Gear. There is a reason people play for long hours to EARN something, not be outgained by the players who pay cash or to be cheated out of their TIME-based playing experience.

* When medals were removed from the DQ earnt section and it was an accident
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/profile/a2/8a/a28a69c373aeccec81a1effcb29a7bdf1302068477.jpg
Remember this insult to integrity?


* When in-game ZEN rose above 300k, 500k and then finally 1 million coin. Free-to-pay. Yep no problem there just grind DQ items harder.

* When China would get sloppy with the updates. Which were 6 to 12 months a part.

* When PWI did the double standard about mentioning 'other versions of the very same game they know that is dying' and its by the same chinese company or mentioning their other product (Torchlight 2) in their existing game PWI.
(Yes certain forum mods I'm looking at you for mentioning your other products in red global text. That is having a double standard.)

* The lack of Guild Base versus Guild Base awesomeness. Which never materialized cause the game play mechanics of the whole bloody thing were floored and flawed that was promised on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGnk452pJFs& this video. As well as here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGnk452pJFs&list=PL32E66E4F04CEE08B&index=8&feature=plpp_video

Might as well just put all the farm-able ingredients into the cash shop, every item into the cash shop, kill the game, leave it at that. Oh but wait people are still buying packs. Derp.

Well I know, we're I'm going and I know which companies I won't be trusting in the near future. Perfect World International (The Publisher) yes that is easy enough. Trust? Lost.

Cody_tylor - Sanctuary

Jay_Dubbz - Lost City wrote: »

Genies
Anniversary Packs

2010
No more spoons
Hypers
BH
Hyper + Frost
Many lvl 100 characters
Rank 9
Rank 8 cheaper
BH 100
Permaspark Nirvana
Casters QQ
TT Difficulty increase???
Nirvana Difficulty increase????
Jones Blessing
Massive QQ on forums
Archers with claws (trolololololol)

2011
Selling frost big room or heads got popular
Trials Content
First lvl 105
Frost glitch
Crazy refine sale
General Summer Super Sale, Rank 8 and 9 super cheap

2012
Descent Update
New skills
No glitchers banned (When promissed)
Aps wanna be fix (Who ingame cares?)
Constant rep is on sale

Since rank got cheaper, THAT hit the nail on the coffin, we already have OP skills in this game, make them even OPer with OP gear makes the game really boring... Why not just join private server? You don't have to worry about levels at all.

I still see QQ about tideborns because these morons do not know how to play their old classes / genesis. I don't play sin and yet I out tank them NP. Infact, sins are the last class I want in squad as a TANK unless they have OP gear. Guess what classes are a solo/duo class? Barb, veno and mystic, why? Barb have way too much HP while with genie they have a very very very long duration of reducd damage taken, veno have huge huge huge defense gain, and mystic can superior pet/summon heal with herbs. They are the three most broken classes in this game. Period. The new skills made veno become more than a faceroll class now.

PWE needs to revamp this game gear wise and skill wise, but they will never do it because they are just counting their money from these suckers... err customers and the people who "farmed" their OP gear or 5 aps / -50% or more channeling.

Also they will NEVER REMOVE the genies which that really killed PVE and veno is not the only the easy mode class anymore since zeal came. It have become "necessary," or you are called a noob for not having a genie with high lucky points at level 100. Level doesn't mean **** since it is not a challenge. This game is handed out like a private server, only thing is you need to have $$$ and an OP genie. Back then we did fine without all these handouts... It was just the fails who couldn't cope without those.

Kinjeto - Raging Tide

Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »

Since rank got cheaper, THAT hit the nail on the coffin, we already have OP skills in this game, make them even OPer with OP gear makes the game really boring... Why not just join private server? You don't have to worry about levels at all.

I still see QQ about tideborns because these morons do not know how to play their old classes / genesis. I don't play sin and yet I out tank them NP. Infact, sins are the last class I want in squad as a TANK unless they have OP gear. Guess what classes are a solo/duo class? Barb, veno and mystic, why? Barb have way too much HP while with genie they have a very very very long duration of reducd damage taken, veno have huge huge huge defense gain, and mystic can superior pet/summon heal with herbs. They are the three most broken classes in this game. Period. The new skills made veno become more than a faceroll class now.

PWE needs to revamp this game gear wise and skill wise, but they will never do it because they are just counting their money from these suckers... err customers and the people who "farmed" their OP gear or 5 aps / -50% or more channeling.

Also they will NEVER REMOVE the genies which that really killed PVE and veno is not the only the easy mode class anymore since zeal came. It have become "necessary," or you are called a noob for not having a genie with high lucky points at level 100. Level doesn't mean **** since it is not a challenge. This game is handed out like a private server, only thing is you need to have $$$ and an OP genie. Back then we did fine without all these handouts... It was just the fails who couldn't cope without those.

It isn't just the nail in the coffin. It's the prisoner of war in the ditch filled with napalm and the zippo lighter is in the hands of the enemy soldier who is carrying all the jewel looted from villagers. Yeah and the irony was that the RANK was actually meant to be earned through FBs', Hero Quests, 'Wraith Attacking City' Events and if the DQ idea sticks. The in game concept could of actually worked. If someone @ developer side had of come up with a decent time frame for getting the reputation. But Perfect World International is always chasing the bling bling.


Grinding DQ for Rank. Put the RANK in the cash shop. You burn ANY chance of any point of actually playing towards a goal. thus it becomes Pay-To-Win. Thus any sort of long term goal is nullified. Also not having a good PARTY SYSTEM for finding other players isn't a good thing either.

The six classes actually worked. Warrior, Barbarian, Wizard, Cleric, Venomancer, Archer because each class had a role. If they had of added the Mystic and the Seeker that also could of saved grace before adding the Assassin and the Psychic but a miserable failure of a pay to play abomination is a miserable failure.

Hopefully developers will see better things in the future where 'Class' isn't as important. But having fun is.

Quilue - Sanctuary

Medal removal from DQP was really rich. A lot of the earlier R9 players got their R9 far cheaper than everyone else. tsktsk.

SteamyFish - Lost City

2009 imo