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Krazyeye$ - Dreamweaver

I'm 89 right now and my strength is 54 dex is 5 and my vit is 20, wat im wondering is by having 20 vit is that waste and how badly will it effect me if at all when i get to end game?

Eoria - Harshlands

Doesn't really matter as a support class with that low amount of vit. You'll be fine.

Krazyeye$ - Dreamweaver

i just figured a lil vit cant hurt, specialy with the fc AOE....ty for the responseb:victory

VoItaire - Harshlands

You're a support class. Unless you're packing 10k hp and 8k pdef self buffed, vit is good. I personally would never go past 50.

/eren - Dreamweaver343

I'm old fashioned. Pure magic and enough str for gears. shards/refines can handle the hp just fine. (for me) you dont gain a really noticeable amount from vit so why not stick the points somewhere useful?

OmniX - Heavens Tear

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Doesn't really matter as a support class with that low amount of vit. You'll be fine.

Well depends. Cant really say that the Mystic class is strictly support. Its one of the most versatile classes in the game. If played well, you could be a DD as well as a support player. Mystics have the luxury of being a DD without having to switch modes entirely. Instead its instant. A cleric on the other hand is a support class, but when it becomes strictly DD with metal mage mode, its support abilities are completely purged and cant support at all. A mystic does not. So yes it does matter what build you have. I personally am PURE magic and lean more to being a DD BUT i also "support" when necessary. Being pure magic is awesome as a mystic or most magic classes for that matter. Heals are better and damage dealt is awesome. Mystics are fortunate to have a Physical defense buff that allows them to have more than decent physical defense like a wizard even with a pure magic build. Although i know a few mystics who have a vit build. I dont really care for vit...so i didn't bother making a vit build simply because i think it removes from the mystic instead of adding. Thats just my opinion...b:chuckle

Eoria - Harshlands

OmniX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Blah blah blah

It's 20 vit on a support class. It's not really gonna matter for the OP.

Also, metal mage mode = useless.

Jeremied - Sanctuary

Nothing wrong with a little extra vit on us squishy support classes. As long as it doesn't impede your attacks and heals, then go for it.

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Also, metal mage mode = useless.

b:avoid Sage clerics can spam heal in metal mage mode with sage celestial guardian's seal.

Other than that, pretty useless.

Eoria - Harshlands

Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:avoid Sage clerics can spam heal in metal mage mode with sage celestial guardian's seal.

Other than that, pretty useless.

If you're metal maging on a sage cleric, you're doing it wrong.

Also, level 11 Guardian Seal is pretty expensive. ijs.

OmniX - Heavens Tear

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

More blah blah...
Also, metal mage mode = useless.

I clearly stated that that was my opinion. I quoted you because you stated it was a support class. I on the other hand dont think its strictly support. How are you so sure it wouldnt matter to the OP?? There are a lot of things that could come from 20magic. To others metal mage mode is not useless its more of a fun change...its based on opinion. You're not always going to be right and others aren't always going to think like you lil girl or guy. So don't blah blah me as if i did it to offend you.

/eren - Dreamweaver350

how about stop saying "support" and state "magic" since magic classes have the worst returns from a vit point. I play DD more than supportive and i dont have a problem being pure magic. 3 pieces of my gear are garnets for a bit of phys def the rest are citrine shards. I can live with 3.5k hp and 9.8k magic just fine o: my heals are fast enough to keep me alive and i hurt mobs really bad

ArenaSkies - Sanctuary

20 vit is just fine. A little doesn't hurt at all.

However, what's with the 54 str? At 100 you should have that amount of str because it's the max you need for arcane gears. I wouldn't restat it if you're going to lvl 100, it's just don't add anymore str either.

Unless you're an LA build, but your dex is too low.

Crescendia - Harshlands

Krazyeye$ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm 89 right now and my strength is 54 dex is 5 and my vit is 20, wat im wondering is by having 20 vit is that waste and how badly will it effect me if at all when i get to end game?

Well here's my honest opinion. I also have 20 base vit points and it doesnt really make a huge difference HP wise (200 HP more) on whether I survive or not in Pvp. I imagine they dont make any different at all for pve stuffs so its your preference really. I'm too lazy to restat those points so they will stay there. Maybe if my mystic was my main, I probably would stat them to magic.

Gotta mention that I have about 7.7k HP unbuffed so that might be why I dont see a huge difference in the 20 vit points

VoItaire - Harshlands

OmniX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I clearly stated that that was my opinion. I quoted you because you stated it was a support class. I on the other hand dont think its strictly support. How are you so sure it wouldnt matter to the OP?? There are a lot of things that could come from 20magic. To others metal mage mode is not useless its more of a fun change...its based on opinion. You're not always going to be right and others aren't always going to think like you lil girl or guy. So don't blah blah me as if i did it to offend you.

It kinda is a support though, especially from a pvp standpoint. You're gonna be support tjere, whether it's through healing and buffing, or ccing opponents and pushing melees away when try to rush your ranged squaddmates or spark. Vit is especially important if you don't op gear. Now from a pve standpoint, yes mystics have the highest single target dps of all casters, but sins, bms, and fist archers are still faster. Even in caster nirv consider WHY we have the highest dps there. That's right, because of our summons doing op dmg on lvl 150 bosses. The only benefit our summons get from magic is a max mana increase, vit gives them more hp so you have more time to heal them and easier to keep buffs from last boss. Even rapid growth buffs based on weapon dmg and not matk, so mystics really aren't losing much for statting a lil extra vit. If you can't survive caster nirv tjen you've no business being pure mag. Seriously had a 3.5k hp r8 wizzie in one squad x.x

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/eren - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm old fashioned. Pure magic and enough str for gears. shards/refines can handle the hp just fine. (for me) you dont gain a really noticeable amount from vit so why not stick the points somewhere useful?

^^ -this. Stats shouldn't be used to compensate for poor gear.

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

In my honest Opinion , unlike Clerics and Venomancers where i find a little bit of VIT helpful (<--- pure mag cleric and Vit veno) i Believe the best thing for a mystic is pure. They have a HUGE MP consumption , at least till they have cash for Charms , lvl 75 pots blah blah. And they have so many ways to survive ranging from self rez , Heal over time , insta-quick heal , 2 Healing plants and a Summon that has Shields and Heal+shield at sacrifice mode.

They have more ways to protect themselves than any cleric would (though clerics do have their own shields-buffs and less MP consuption but i dont mean to compare the two). I think Every point Mystic has can find little use to Vit.

Vital_Slash - Sanctuary

Pure Mag. That is all.


/thead

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Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

In my honest Opinion , unlike Clerics and Venomancers where i find a little bit of VIT helpful (<--- pure mag cleric and Vit veno) i Believe the best thing for a mystic is pure. They have a HUGE MP consumption , at least till they have cash for Charms , lvl 75 pots blah blah. And they have so many ways to survive ranging from self rez , Heal over time , insta-quick heal , 2 Healing plants and a Summon that has Shields and Heal+shield at sacrifice mode.

They have more ways to protect themselves than any cleric would (though clerics do have their own shields-buffs and less MP consuption but i dont mean to compare the two). I think Every point Mystic has can find little use to Vit.

I have Cleric and Mystic on same account sharing all equips. Mystic is much lighter on MP consumption unless attempting to fill where a Cleric would BB in heavy healing situations like Warsong Metal.

Mayatheia - Heavens Tear

20 vit means 17 vit above the min that you need which is 3. Translated into HP means 170 HP. IMO it is not that much. considering how fast you can heal yourself and how much hp returns falling petali... 170 HP is nothing. 17 magic would be much more useful for a mystic no matter what gear you have.

OmniX - Heavens Tear

VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »

It kinda is a support though, especially from a pvp standpoint. You're gonna be support tjere, whether it's through healing and buffing, or ccing opponents and pushing melees away when try to rush your ranged squaddmates or spark. Vit is especially important if you don't op gear. Now from a pve standpoint, yes mystics have the highest single target dps of all casters, but sins, bms, and fist archers are still faster. Even in caster nirv consider WHY we have the highest dps there. That's right, because of our summons doing op dmg on lvl 150 bosses. The only benefit our summons get from magic is a max mana increase, vit gives them more hp so you have more time to heal them and easier to keep buffs from last boss. Even rapid growth buffs based on weapon dmg and not matk, so mystics really aren't losing much for statting a lil extra vit. If you can't survive caster nirv tjen you've no business being pure mag. Seriously had a 3.5k hp r8 wizzie in one squad x.x

You get more out of statting your 20 Points into your Magic instead of Vit. You dont gain much from statting 20 vit. 170ish HP will not save you in most situations..if not all. PvE or PvP...especially pvp. Either way it wont hurt you to stat vit...but 4 lvls worth of points should be statted into something more uselful.

VoItaire - Harshlands

Well yeah I didn't mean 20 vit xP I meant more like 50. There have been countless times where I've survived random crits with like 200 hp. Heck, I when I was 9x I survived r9 +11 Parasitic Nova with like 30 hp. I was just saying that vit doesn't hurt our dps as much as people try to make it seem like it does. b:surrender