Delta Wave for Sins

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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »
    so wait you prefer second best puller over a natural puller tank barb.



    ooh and barb dont need to be competent to do it it is just natural for us to do so
    if we look for competent we would still outshine the bm at it becouse we are just better.

    Its the same logic that follows that of an APS DD (who can survive the encounter) tanking a boss over a Barb, really.

    While a squad will generally be "safer" with a Barb doing the work (attributed to higher HP on average and better Aggro control), they are substitutable - in this case by a Seeker/BM with decent gear - and gain the benefit of more AoE power (the faster mobs are felled, the less likely casualties are to occur).
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  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    as for sin.... i dislike most people who have a sin as main character and i see no reason why one should bother doing bh delta on sin alt,

    Really?
    I do 3 BHs everyday when I can now that my sin hit 100 last week.
    102 R9 power house Wiz main - 101 HA average herc Veno - New born and weak (+3 gear mostly/soon to be OP though lol) 100 Sin

    Yesterday I got two sets of of two one million coin cards and sockets stones. Today I got one set of two 1 million coin cards. 1 five mil coin card, and 55 mys chips.

    That's 11 million coin in 6 BHs. I think that's a good reason. b:thanks

    Oh and TY for those in Lost City server that take my baby Sin into Delta.
    He don't help much yet but I always ask if they got an alt and if they do I invite them next on my R9 wiz who can basically solo (with BB) wave 1 and 2. b:bye
  • Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I'd take a good/skilled sin into delta anytime... b:avoid
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Too bad mobs in delta are level-? and there's no 4x skill damage base buff like in that screenshot. Adjust for that and all of a sudden your average hit in that screenshot is just 50k with an 8 second cooldown.

    That's a pro 6.25k dps 8m aoe. Good luck trying to steal aggro from demon barrage with that b:chuckle

    Demon is 10 meters b:surrender And while that's mostly true (someone broke that 2.74m aoe down to around 60k or so), I'm just trying to say that sins can deal good AoE damage. I have had no problem getting into a Delta squad, even back when I had a measly +3 R8 daggers as my weapon. It only became a problem if I was searching for a full delta. But all of my full deltas were done with my faction. All it takes is a bit of friend making, dedication, and a lil know-how to get a delta going. As many have said, make your own squad if you can't get in one.

    And as long as everyone times things correctly, any class can be a good AoE DD. Sure that's the sin class's weakness, but come on, are you really complaining on a SIN? The broken OP class that has stealth, BP, permaspark with ~35%+ crit rate, can use bows to do good damage, has a skillset that can cause any type of locking debuff (sleep/seal/stun/immobilize), has a high chance of avoiding any attack/debuff, can avoid a 1 shot no matter how high the damage is, and many more features?

    I'm glad other classes easily outshine sins somewhere.

    (The 2nd paragraph was not directed at you Ast)
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  • Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Thou shall bring the Barb into Nirvana... and then, maybe he will bring you into a full RB b:chuckle
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thou shall bring the Barb into Nirvana... and then, maybe he will bring you into a full RB b:chuckle

    i remember back in the day it was quite difficult to get barbs for RB
    since they had to have the skill and time


    i mean back in the day when there was no hypers xd

    we had to plan a few days ahead to get a good barb available for our full delta plans sometimes



    kinda easier to form a squad nowadays when you just need a cleric and some random aoe dds
    or assasin when you are a seeker

    did a few trio (full) delta playing BM and barb at the same time~ was quite entertaining
    but not hard- like delta was when i barely had 5k hp with barb buff
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    omg the old days, when something actually took skill in the past
    if you get what I mean
    If you know what i'm getting at
    if you understand what i'm saying
    if you comprehend what is coming out of my mouth

    What's RB?b:shocked
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited May 2012
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Its the same logic that follows that of an APS DD (who can survive the encounter) tanking a boss over a Barb, really.

    While a squad will generally be "safer" with a Barb doing the work (attributed to higher HP on average and better Aggro control), they are substitutable - in this case by a Seeker/BM with decent gear - and gain the benefit of more AoE power (the faster mobs are felled, the less likely casualties are to occur).



    if ppl needed aps ppl non ask for barb and yet they do ask for barbs for the pulls for rb
    wish we do better then bm.

    safe as you said is why they want a tiger doing the pulls.


    the reason so many nowdays let bm do pull is cos when its random not many barb do random bh rb so they get second best a bm with enough hpb:bye
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thou shall bring the Barb into Nirvana... and then, maybe he will bring you into a full RB b:chuckle



    yes well how many sin take barb into nv on normal non 2x maybe 30%

    and on 2x non and these same sin wonder why we dont bring them to rbb:bye

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