What is the difference between a BM and a Seeker?

Kita_kun - Harshlands

So far, i really dont see the difference other than the obvious and that the Seeker has magical skills as well. So can someone help compare them for me in terms of how they play (what kind of play style are they good for)?

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

BM has a bit more versatility in playstyle. You can be aps, support, tank, or do all at once. I'm not sure what you are looking for really. Its kind of like saying you don't see a difference between a cleric and an assassin except the obvious.

Seekers are essentially HA casters. Their damage is based more on skill spam with their stances to reduce opponent attack and defense levels, and their debuffs to enhance skill damage. They survive situations using their defense levels to reduce damage, but have no real anti stun or reliable stun (sage has a 4 second antistun with Unfetter, seekers have a 3 second tele stun with a 3 minute cooldown and have Peachblade stance that can inflict a 3 second stun, but not really a reliable stun or decent anti stun). Seekers are unable to use any weapon except swords, limiting their aps ability.

BMs are great at crowd control. We have aoe stuns, aoe paralyze, 7.5 second stuns, and an amazing aoe amp. BMs are slightly squishier than Seekers, but can alter our defenses to have either hi phys def and low mdef or hi mdef and low pdef. BMs have axes for high aoe damage, poles for range damage, and fists for aps 1v1 damage.

SpazzMcAps - Harshlands

Refer to my name for the answer

Aasaf - Sanctuary

That is like saying there is no difference between cleric, mystic. A sin and bm. Easiest way to learn the difference is to play each class to lvl 20~30. No matter how we explain it, it will not be apparent, because if it was apparent, you would not have asked in such a manner.

In trying to answer your question, all classes have basic skill categories. They have single target skills, linear skills, aoe skills, dot skills, stun skills, anti stun skills, healing skills. No single class is OP in all the categories, some classes will lack in specific places.

For BMs, there are general some good single target skills. They also have some linear skills, but i have yet to see mobs line up in a straight line to use them effectively (i am a fail bm). We can have constant aoe, maybe not 360 degrees all the time, but can cover 180 degrees all the time. Our stun skills allow us to stun lock, meaning for mobs, they can not touch you, pvp is a different beast. Antistun skill, there are a few skills, but the most common used on is will of bod.

Application in fcc goon glitch, seekers had to buy vacs, bms did not b:victory. If seeker died in goons, squad wipe usually. If bm died in squad, everyone else gets more experience b:cry.

MareAssassin - Lost City

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

BM has a bit more versatility in playstyle. You can be aps, support, tank, or do all at once. I'm not sure what you are looking for really. Its kind of like saying you don't see a difference between a cleric and an assassin except the obvious.

Seekers are essentially HA casters. Their damage is based more on skill spam with their stances to reduce opponent attack and defense levels, and their debuffs to enhance skill damage. They survive situations using their defense levels to reduce damage, but have no real anti stun or reliable stun (sage has a 4 second antistun with Unfetter, seekers have a 3 second tele stun with a 3 minute cooldown and have Peachblade stance that can inflict a 3 second stun, but not really a reliable stun or decent anti stun). Seekers are unable to use any weapon except swords, limiting their aps ability.

BMs are great at crowd control. We have aoe stuns, aoe paralyze, 7.5 second stuns, and an amazing aoe amp. BMs are slightly squishier than Seekers, but can alter our defenses to have either hi phys def and low mdef or hi mdef and low pdef. BMs have axes for high aoe damage, poles for range damage, and fists for aps 1v1 damage.

Parchedblade Dance Stance*

Just wanted to correct you, agree with everything else though ;3

Maelael - Heavens Tear

Check the Seeker Forums. Theres about 12 posts in the last three months on this subject.

Of note, Im a BM and my Wife is a seeker. They work REALLY well together.

Here is a cut and paste of something I said a while back on the two classes, mostly focused on PvE, with some edits and clarifications:

Two entirely different styles.

Seeker: Debuff, Good AOEs, Constant AOE. Excellent Defense Levels. New Angels skill for Crits is practically an Amp. Can pull, but not reliably tank vs APS & Barb. Not as great in TW/PvP, but hard to put down due to defense levels (chumpy when purged). Can Solo FF later on, but not as efficient as an APS Toon.

BM: APS, Amp, Good AOEs, AOE Stun, Multiple Weapon and Skill options depending on situations. Can pull, and can reliably tank depending on refine/aps of Sin or high enough APS to outdo Barbs. Great in TW/PvP. Can solo FF later on.

Both are wanted in FF squads - some even feel they need both. BMs are sought after for Nirvana as opposed to Seekers, however smarter Caster squads will look for Seekers as they can nuke and debuff.

Of note, I really, really like Seekers in non R9/Super-Pro level RB squads. They can take a beating way better than Archers or Wizzies.

Biggest Factor imho: You wont be able to Farm Nirvana or Sell Heads as well as a BM as a Seeker.

So its really a style thing, I don't think you can go wrong either way as both are fun to play. Not as core for TW, but can pull cats.

PheosNyx - Sanctuary

I have to completely agree with Maelael - as a caster I drool over seekers in caster vana and in RB (takes aggro away from my wiz and they don't go splat like I do) - but in every other circumstance I want HF/stun/bell and most frequently would prefer both in squad since they do work incredibly well together (i.e. bh, fc, not so much vana tho - there I'd rather just a squad of bm's)