Computer upgrade help please.

Crazydan - Heavens Tear
Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
edited May 2012 in Etherblade (West)
So my parents decided to give me a computer as a moving out present and its got a **** graphics card and i need to upgrade the power supply but other then that the thing is solid so can someone help me find something that will fit into this computer


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell+-+XPS+Desktop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive/4830116.p?id=1218538064805&skuId=4830116&st=X8300-6013BK&cp=1&lp=1


the current power supply is measured at 5.6x 3.7x 6.0 inches. My budget is about 250$ total.

Ik im a noob dont hurt me b:cry Well Erik can hurt me but no one else b:dirty
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  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    For $250 you may not be able to get a really good GC and PS. Exactly what are you looking to use this new PC for? Casual gaming, hardcore FPS gaming etc.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

    Note the chart comparison at the end of the article.
  • Raviste - Heavens Tear
    Raviste - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Or, like, send me the $250 instead. >.> Hi Dan.
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521

    I don't know how tight your PSU is, but this is pretty close in dimensions so maybe it'll work. It should give you enough headroom to upgrade a bit too.

    The 6870 should let you play most games on medium settings very well.

    I'm not very experienced though, but something similar to these products should be fine without going over budget.
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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    For $250 you may not be able to get a really good GC and PS. Exactly what are you looking to use this new PC for? Casual gaming, hardcore FPS gaming etc.

    Be semi serious gaming but not too hardcore and sleepcat i was look at that exact chip just didnt know how good it was
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  • Retsuko - Heavens Tear
    Retsuko - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,016 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Well Erik can hurt me but no one else b:dirty

    With pleasure b:cute

    Sowwy, i'm clueless when it comes to GC these days. My computer has a geforce gt 9800 and happy about it.

    And omgosh, it's ravi b:shocked
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  • Raviste - Heavens Tear
    Raviste - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Teehee, hi Shif. :D Just checking in! Miss you a lot! How are you?
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  • Retsuko - Heavens Tear
    Retsuko - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,016 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Hi ravi, i'm doing great thanks :)

    How are you? and where did you go again to study? Hope that's working out! And log on sometime b:cry
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  • Raviste - Heavens Tear
    Raviste - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Just the Northeast, in dreary boring Connecticut. :P I recently got a Mac, so I can't play games anymore. :( Also don't want to run bootcamp because my Macbook Air probably can't handle all that.... But when I get back home to my PC I'll try to log on and say hi! Glad to see you're still around.
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  • Retsuko - Heavens Tear
    Retsuko - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,016 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    eww, no games... the horror b:shocked

    And while you were gone i decided to quit my veno and make a mystic. Made a video today of myself solo'ing FF for fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=durSUAv6Ok0
    Link might not work yet, so have patience while i upload it.
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  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Made a video today of myself

    Okay there tremblewith
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Not sure if you are aware but prices of computer hardware rose up the past 9 months or so because of that thing in Japan. I don't know what computer stores you have in your country so it's hard to help, unless you can tell me. Generally though if you are going for semi serious gaming try to stick with an AMD Radeon or GeForce card that is within your budget. I forget how much mine cost so I don't know what is worth it. b:surrender
  • Sheswes - Heavens Tear
    Sheswes - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,216 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Not sure if you are aware but prices of computer hardware rose up the past 9 months or so because of that thing in Japan. I don't know what computer stores you have in your country so it's hard to help, unless you can tell me. Generally though if you are going for semi serious gaming try to stick with an AMD Radeon or GeForce card that is within your budget. I forget how much mine cost so I don't know what is worth it. b:surrender

    what about Voodoo?! or Riva TNT?!

    or u meant .. ignore HD4000?b:surrender

    n00b mystic b:chuckle
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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Thanks for the help think i got the good stuff coming today you guys make me seem so dumb lol
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  • momentosayss
    momentosayss Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    First off, why the hell would you buy a pre-built tower if you are planning to replace parts?

    You should just buy each component separately or buy a bare bones kit.

    Replacing the power supply and the video card will just add about 200-300 dollars to your total.


    Also, you are probably gonna get substandard parts as part of the package. Your motherboard probably won't support cross fire or sli and will have less slots for upgrades.

    The ram you get will probably have higher timings than standard ram. (lower = better) While most users probably won't notice a difference, it's still you could have better ram for approximately the same price.


    The new generation video cards with kepler and GCN architecture are significantly better than older models. So you are better off buying a low-mid end model from the current generation than a top of the line from the previous generation.


    And a good video card needs a decent power supply. But a decent power supply should also have 80+ certification otherwise it will rack up electricity costs.


    And if you aren't hell bent on a i7, you are probably better off with a third generation i5 with the ivy bridge architecture and using the savings to buy a ssd, which will make your computer feel faster than just a processor alone.
  • momentosayss
    momentosayss Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    ati 7770's
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131460
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150598

    pretty much the same card. Some might opt to go with xfx because they are a bigger company.


    The next step up would be the ati 7850 which offers a substantial upgrade from the 7770s
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150609

    Just from browsing I would recommend that card. It comes with double lifetime warranty and about 50 dollars less than any comparable card with weaker warranties. (Double lifetime warranty means you can sell your card to someone else and they would qualify for the warranty too)


    Someone referenced this chart earlier which you can use for a guideline:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html


    You can see that the 7850 is third tier at 270ish and 7770 is seventh tier at 130ish. So pretty much double the price. But I wouldn't consider the 7850 extravagant because it does offer a substantial performance upgrade.