Nirvana Glitching

echindra

I am a tad unclear on how I am support and not a DD, there are not enough casters doing caster NV to ask for too much, and the very few casters who are super geared rarely feel like going to caster NV, they rather doing normal NV on aps alts or just swiping a card, or they are beyond the need of money since they are as endgame as it gets.

Also, lets remember, BH, most of them require a squad, and a caster can't get in an all sin stealth run (for Aba / SOT), can't be used as a mega damage outlet (WS), people rarely do Lunar and GV, that is one of the few instances that can be failed.

Still, I acknowledge your point, someone with enough time on his/her hands can make more money as a caster, I used to, but now I am stuck with overtime at the office, the forums are my only social outlet.

Wanna end it here and have a cookie? They are not poisoned, I swear ^.^

Oh, and for the record, I have played BM (5.0 and the old axe sword pole way) Veno (HA and AA) Cleric, Wiz (My first account and the only one I can really say I love), Sin (Not for real real, for one day as a +12 engame scary fishling creature), all of them but the fish both at around 6x and up to 10x

And also, I once had the chance to be a Sage Wizard for 2 days, they have their pros, but it felt just wrong.

Back to the original topic, no, keep NV as it is, for instance, once in regular NV our cleric DCd during the Snake Boss and never came back, we went ahead and did The Chicken with just wizard heals, then the Old Creep with me teleporting all over the place collecting tokens, healing and building chi to do a teleport holy path combo when the creeps spawned.

We ended 5maning it and to me, that is a perfectly valid scenario.

Aedrian - Lost City

Oh, ****, posted on the account, not the char, now my secret is out, I was just trying to fix my avatar level.

But back to the thread, just no, read the post right above.


(I want my 102 avatar already, stupid forum thingie, it took me ages to get to 102)

PS: On my end now it seems as 102, Does it look like I am 102 to you as well?

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Aedrian - Lost City wrote: »

A) Not QQing at all

If you pay attention, in regular NV with 3.33, decent damage output+ and BP on at least lvl 10 you will only die if you are not paying attention, you are out of chi or you don't know how to survive/dodge/escape certain attacks.

C) Not really, not even greatly geared people can 2man caster NV as of now, 3man, yeah, but 2 man. hell no.

D) Caster NV does take longer, even with a full +10 or above squad, and on casters, that is hard to get.

We can get more money than regular players from phis players from regular NV per run, but it is way more time consuming, you get 3 keys for free every day, we get 1 talis, we both get a talis and a key from BH, that means that we can not save for x2 or do back to back runs as phis classes do.

This is not a QQ thread, I am glad there are some differences, I am just tired of people looking down on casters / caster NV when they haven't even considered how things actually work down there.

uum there are at least 2 people that solo caster nirvy on DW (r9+10 +12 i think), and have seen more that duo.
wouldnt say that it's a cakewalk but i'm sitting at 5.1-5.5khp, 2.3kpdef and -9 def lvls and have no significant trouble even tanking it. yeah I might die sometimes if I dont act fast when the 4 slugs spawn or I dont puri the wood debuff or the fire debuff but not that often...

oralungo

3/4 or even 2 man nirv is not a problem i think.. it ppl choice.. why u bother.. same like TT.. if u hv provlem getting nirv squad than making 1.. i ever do nirv w.o sin.. 2 archer/veno/barb/wiz/BM.. cant do in 5 minutes but still fast (around 10 minute).... make ur own way ijs.. too much rule make game no longer fun..

bout caster.. i agree to not put timer on talisman.. i usually keeping talisman on 2x event coz my friend will need it.. kinda unfair on that things.. caster need talisman n keys.. 1 talisman everyday.. n from BH.. which is hard do BH on 2x coz ppl choose farm first... not to mention rare ppl doing BH2.. no timer n stackable talisman is good for all...

Aedrian - Lost City

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

uum there are at least 2 people that solo caster nirvy on DW (r9+10 +12 i think), and have seen more that duo.
wouldnt say that it's a cakewalk but i'm sitting at 5.1-5.5khp, 2.3kpdef and -9 def lvls and have no significant trouble even tanking it. yeah I might die sometimes if I dont act fast when the 4 slugs spawn or I dont puri the wood debuff or the fire debuff but not that often...

Solo caster, oh dear, must be a mystic, still it seems a tad off.

And not everyone is skilled enough to handle that boss, I choose the genie **** to send the mobs away while I keep on fighting the boss, if you survive the moment when they spawn and you get heals, they die easily.

But it is a matter of several factors, and lets face it, not all casters have 5k HP base without sacrificing mag points into vit.

Either that or Lost City casters kinda suck b:surrender

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Aedrian - Lost City wrote: »

Solo caster, oh dear, must be a mystic, still it seems a tad off.

And not everyone is skilled enough to handle that boss, I choose the genie **** to send the mobs away while I keep on fighting the boss, if you survive the moment when they spawn and you get heals, they die easily.

But it is a matter of several factors, and lets face it, not all casters have 5k HP base without sacrificing mag points into vit.

Either that or Lost City casters kinda suck b:surrender

LOL genie fartb:chuckle

actually one was a cleric, the second was a wizzie and one of the duos were mystic/cleric
well, not sure if the wizzie succesfully/efficiently did it though, first time i've seen him/her.
perhaps wanted to try it

3k hp clerics ftw b:avoid just one of those and it can make the run a nightmare :b

Aedrian - Lost City

I could be useful in those, after all, I do steal agro from full R9 +10 with my R8 +10 weapon, but then again, I am a freak.

Wanna have a look? http://pwcalc.com/dcc1592bf8fa3ba1 Oddball build, it works in a very amusing way, and I love the wtf voices when I am on a caster run on voice chat and they notice that I am tanking with ease and that they are having a hard time stealing agro.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Aedrian - Lost City wrote: »

I could be useful in those, after all, I do steal agro from full R9 +10 with my R8 +10 weapon, but then again, I am a freak.

Wanna have a look? http://pwcalc.com/dcc1592bf8fa3ba1 Oddball build, it works in a very amusing way, and I love the wtf voices when I am on a caster run on voice chat and they notice that I am tanking with ease and that they are having a hard time stealing agro.

nice -chan stuff, not only chan but good adds too. should have taken a long time to find/craft them :b
the different shards on weapon might make changing them expensive though xd

Aedrian - Lost City

Yeah, been collecting for a few years now, and I just noticed that about the weapon, it is 2 gems xD

And for when the change, also got a G15 NV gun, but that one is waiting to be upgraded.

DailyStone - Sanctuary

The discussion are really out of topic, when i read the title, was thinking which kind of nirvana glitch u guys talking about..but somehow it become something else b:laugh

Fintan - Lost City

DailyStone - Sanctuary wrote: »

The discussion are really out of topic, when i read the title, was thinking which kind of nirvana glitch u guys talking about..but somehow it become something else b:laugh

The glitch is apparently that Caster NV uses a (timed) talisman, takes longer to run, and is nearly impossible to solo? *shrug*

I got lost somewhere too...

Salari - Raging Tide

Aedrian - Lost City wrote: »

Oh, ****, posted on the account, not the char, now my secret is out, I was just trying to fix my avatar level.

But back to the thread, just no, read the post right above.


(I want my 102 avatar already, stupid forum thingie, it took me ages to get to 102)

PS: On my end now it seems as 102, Does it look like I am 102 to you as well?

Yes avatar is correct, I have not been able to get mine fixed.

Aedrian - Lost City

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yes avatar is correct, I have not been able to get mine fixed.

Cool, thanks, now lets hope it does not revert (Again), it did about 2 days after I got to 102

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Solution to what? There's no problem to be solved. Just a bunch of crybaby sponges who think theyre entitled to money they don't deserve, typical PW mindset. People work their *** off for better gear than you, and thus they are rewarded by being capable of running instances with less people. Stop crying because some people have been playing longer than you, or have spent more money. The whole argument is so ****ing illogical.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN NIRVANA WITH OTHER PEOPLE, THEY JUST WON'T HAVE 5 APS. IF YOU WANT TO RUN WITH 5 APSERS, GET 5 APS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE 5 APS, FORM A SQUAD WITH OTHER NON APSERS, TELL ME HOW THAT GOES.

OH, AND WHEN YOU DO GET 5 APS AFTER FARMING FOR MONTHS, OR SPENDING YOUR LEFTOVER PAYCHECK MONEY, TELL ME HOW ANNOYING IT IS TO HAVE A BUNCH OF LEECHES BEG FOR FREE MONEY OFF YOU CUZ THEIR LAZY *** DOESNT WANNA WORK FOR THEIR ****ING GEAR!!!

lol ur 5aps cost less then 0.5% of the cost of my gear so ya i say you sir is the leecher not me.
and if you think the cost of nirvana should entitle your rapid killing my presence alone should 1 shoot the bosses and it aint happening so we have a problem dont you agree.

i a, full in a gree nirvana need to be changed and NOW

/ork - Harshlands4

At this point I would not expect the company to do anything, except gladly accept your charges for zen/gold.

I know people have been saying "the game is dead" for a year or so now, but now I really believe it. Between APS, goon glitch going un-punished, and soo many other things I am not even going to bother typing it all out...! Combined with the fact that there are at the very least two very prominent, and highly anticipated, games that are being released soon; oh yea, this game will be officially dead very soon. I myself am taking off to a game which I wont name, as to comply with the rules, but I will say it has a 'full public' beta this upcoming weekend for those that pre-ordered.

So, I wouldn't waste your breath, or your fingers typing, asking for anything from perfect world. I am just waiting to hear the announcement that they will be shutting down their servers for good, all of them that is. Like I said, I would not doubt it wont be long after these two new games come out!