-99 casting.

DamagedHeart - Heavens Tear

is it possible? some cleric is telling me if he gets -79 base and uses hes -20 channel buff he will be insta with every skill ( know that works) but is it possible?

Xainou - Sanctuary

That doesn't work for the fact alone that a spell has a cast and a channeling time. Cast time won't be influenced at all.

RageKill - Lost City

I did see some video on a test server where they showed -99 channel. it was instant. They made no mention of removing cast times. So it might actually be possible.

FaceRolI - Sanctuary

your character still pauses to go through the casting animation, in terms of damage you will probably still kill people through IG/sutra/AD (graphics wise) as you've channeled before they immune, though the casting animation will show the skill hitting afterwards. (this is assume that you do in fact channel before they use apos)

~95% chan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-nYETkpd4&context=C4c8da8cADvjVQa1PpcFMASIo2mzo0X-I95ivnWGK04WhlTxsBAhs=

graphics start messing up

OontzOontz - Dreamweaver

97-99 is the sweet spot to be insta for anything with 2 sec channeling or less. Everything else won't work.

Jasriana - Heavens Tear

-99% channel? Yes. -99% casting? No.

What's the difference?

In baseball, channeling would be the windup, casting would be the pitch.

Or, think of pumping a shot gun before every shot. With -99 channel, the reloading time is eliminated, so it would only take as long as firing a shot.

Casting time cannot be modified or reduced.

NescauBall - Archosaur

^^^^^^^at least not anymore :x

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

i think it's a glitch that has been fixed ages ago but sitll remains in some p.servers

Kerona - Sanctuary

Also at a certain -Channeling point, the game forcibly resets you back to -90%. Forget what the point is though...

Notso - Raging Tide

How do you even get 75-79 base channel reduction? b:puzzled b:infuriated

Bubbles - Morai

-99 channel (often referred to as insta cast, hence all the confusion about it) cannot happen on 1.4.4. servers (aka any servers with the new races). On older servers though, like the kind my-en used to have before their updates (pwi started off on a much newer version than they did though, it's possible pwi never had this feature), these sort of things were possible. However, wanmei long since changed things and the game is hard coded to be capped at a maximum of -90%.

Likewise, you cannot achieve an aps higher than 5, however, if you forcible tried to get an aps higher than that, you would end up with a really small aps (say like .2).

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

by sacrificing some gears for lower quality higher channeling gear. using magic OHT neck that has channeling on it is one common way since it's possible (though extremely rare) to get -18% channeling on such a neck peice (as I said VERY rare, seen -12% a few times) My cleric is between -25% and -30% channeling (too lazy to count exactly) and I've not gone for extra channeling gear with a channeling cape, neck, pants, top I could easily be 50-70% but that would drasticly lower my phys def (I like my cube neck and warsong belt ty)

Notso - Raging Tide

So basically you can't get it with legendary gear? You have to use ☆☆☆ gear with -chan adds, which are obviously crappier than the legendary gear...

So who wins if the toons are equally skilled; -95 chan wizzy or full R9 wizzy?

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

Notso - Raging Tide wrote: »

So basically you can't get it with legendary gear? You have to use ☆☆☆ gear with -chan adds, which are obviously crappier than the legendary gear...

So who wins if the toons are equally skilled; -95 chan wizzy or full R9 wizzy?

2 people equally skilled the one with better gear wins of course. Now if a person has high channeling and is skilled but the r9 is a cs noob then the channeler can win

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

2y ago i saw someone selling 3x-6chan wrists in DW

PheosNyx - Sanctuary

FaceRolI - Sanctuary wrote: »

your character still pauses to go through the casting animation, in terms of damage you will probably still kill people through IG/sutra/AD (graphics wise) as you've channeled before they immune, though the casting animation will show the skill hitting afterwards. (this is assume that you do in fact channel before they use apos)

~95% chan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-nYETkpd4&context=C4c8da8cADvjVQa1PpcFMASIo2mzo0X-I95ivnWGK04WhlTxsBAhs=

graphics start messing up

I looked at your pw calc build, and it says -13 channel on ur mag sword + 2 - 3 chan stones. How did you get -13 channel on your R9 sword o,O

Traz - Dreamweaver

PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »

I looked at your pw calc build, and it says -13 channel on ur mag sword + 2 - 3 chan stones. How did you get -13 channel on your R9 sword o,O

I thought the same, but in generality

helm -3
plate -6
legs -3
boots / wrists -9
neck -6
belt -6
cape -6
ring 1 -6
ring 2 -6
weapon -10

That's all standard gear. Totaling that up gets you -61% channeling base. You put demon spark on that you're in the 80s. I'm not sure why people think it's blasphemy to get into the 90s... now getting neck belt to -12 -12 will be a costly step but I mean it's already -80% channeling. You can even add in base buff which is 10% for the major one.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »

I looked at your pw calc build, and it says -13 channel on ur mag sword + 2 - 3 chan stones. How did you get -13 channel on your R9 sword o,O

huum isnt there a rune with -chan? not sure

Elanxu - Dreamweaver

DamagedHeart - Heavens Tear wrote: »

is it possible? some cleric is telling me if he gets -79 base and uses hes -20 channel buff he will be insta with every skill ( know that works) but is it possible?

so the thing with the casting, its answered. casting time doesnt change.

as with channeling speed, im quite sure it works on an exponential decay formula, meaning that the more channeling you have, the less of an effect each -channeling will have, because each -channeling is compounded from the next. like, if you have a -6, that means u are 94%, but if you have another -6, that -6 is 6% of 94 not 100, so in reality you will never have 0 channeling.

this is just my guess.

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I thought the same, but in generality

helm -3
plate -6
legs -3
boots / wrists -9
neck -6
belt -6
cape -6
ring 1 -6
ring 2 -6
weapon -10

That's all standard gear. Totaling that up gets you -61% channeling base. You put demon spark on that you're in the 80s. I'm not sure why people think it's blasphemy to get into the 90s... now getting neck belt to -12 -12 will be a costly step but I mean it's already -80% channeling. You can even add in base buff which is 10% for the major one.

also forgot about the 2 channeling stones you can put in your weapon, giving another -6.
Koizara from dreamweaver has that -19% nirvy g15 weapon (-10 from unique add-on, another -3, and 2 channel stones). iv never seen a -12% belt but i have a -12 neck and im sure -12 belts can exist. the tome, useless as it is, can give -1-2% channeling depending which one you get, lol. im bad with math idk what that will put max channeling to, but its high enough to be 90% sparked

X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear

Elanxu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

so the thing with the casting, its answered. casting time doesnt change.

as with channeling speed, im quite sure it works on an exponential decay formula, meaning that the more channeling you have, the less of an effect each -channeling will have, because each -channeling is compounded from the next. like, if you have a -6, that means u are 94%, but if you have another -6, that -6 is 6% of 94 not 100, so in reality you will never have 0 channeling.

this is just my guess.

Could be true on this client. But on the 1.3.6 client, channelling went up very simply (idk the correct word), where each number added up and it capped at 99%. Channelling went down to 90% if you went over 99%. I remember on old p.servers, people would always suggest channelling should be like interval, and be (whatever the word is). Sorry beer kills brain cells b:surrender

Jasriana - Heavens Tear

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

-99 channel (often referred to as insta cast, hence all the confusion about it) cannot happen on 1.4.4. servers (aka any servers with the new races). On older servers though, like the kind my-en used to have before their updates (pwi started off on a much newer version than they did though, it's possible pwi never had this feature), these sort of things were possible. However, wanmei long since changed things and the game is hard coded to be capped at a maximum of -90%.

Where does this info come from? Every time I see something like this I have to go and re-test to make sure it still works.

-99 Channel still exists. It still resets to -90 if you go beyond that. Tested many times. Witnesses have seen it.

FaceRolI - Sanctuary

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

huum isnt there a rune with -chan? not sure

this is correct its is -3 chan rune, it is a cheaper rune, but only lasts 30 mintues.

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

However, wanmei long since changed things and the game is hard coded to be capped at a maximum of -90%.

there is a difference in speed b/w -90 and -99. over 99 resets to 90. over 100 used to look like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWUtAwt_tU&feature=related. ive had 103% chan and it does not work like that though. b:sad

Notso - Raging Tide wrote: »

How do you even get 75-79 base channel reduction? b:puzzled b:infuriated

lol... idk.. you could copy past link of the - chan wiz... maybe..

Traz - Dreamweaver

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I thought the same, but in generality

helm -3
plate -6
legs -3
boots / wrists -9
neck -6
belt -6
cape -6
ring 1 -6
ring 2 -6
weapon -10

That's all standard gear. Totaling that up gets you -61% channeling base. You put demon spark on that you're in the 80s. I'm not sure why people think it's blasphemy to get into the 90s... now getting neck belt to -12 -12 will be a costly step but I mean it's already -80% channeling. You can even add in base buff which is 10% for the major one.

Ok Revision:

Helm -3%
Plate -6%
Legs -3%
Boots / Wrsits -9%
Neck -6%
Belt -6%
Cape -6%
Ring 1 -6%
Ring 2 -6%
Weapon -10% (-13% to -16% with a crazy roll on G15 Nirvy)
Weapon Shards -6%
Tome -2%

Rune -3%
Base Buff -10% (Overridden by spark? I'm going to assume so)
Demon Spark -25% (except venos all other AA get this)

---

Unsparked Base: -69% to -75%
Unsparked (With Rune): -72% to -78%
Unsparked (With Base Buff + Rune): -82% to -88%
Sparked (With Rune): -97% to -103%

I'm not even counting any -9% or -12% pieces on neck/belt/rings so yeah pretty possible and only the nirvy weapon is really a stretch.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

-99 Channel no linger works. Channeling has been capped at about 60%

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

take a wiz use sutra and use townportal ( sutra = -%100 channeling skill) you will see the wiz will still need to channel 1 second...

RoyalMist - Sanctuary

or a psy tidal spirit + town portal, same effect as wiz sutra oh and mystic can reach -90% channel the easiest since Rapid Growth gives -20 channel and stacks with demon spark or base buffs.

Kerona - Sanctuary

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

-99 Channel no linger works. Channeling has been capped at about 60%

So wrong, stop spreading falseness.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

So wrong, stop spreading falseness.

so true. I know more than you think I do

Jasriana - Heavens Tear

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear wrote: »

take a wiz use sutra and use townportal ( sutra = -%100 channeling skill) you will see the wiz will still need to channel 1 second...

-100% resets to -90%.. -99% is the cap.

Elanxu - Dreamweaver

X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Could be true on this client. But on the 1.3.6 client, channelling went up very simply (idk the correct word), where each number added up and it capped at 99%. Channelling went down to 90% if you went over 99%. I remember on old p.servers, people would always suggest channelling should be like interval, and be (whatever the word is). Sorry beer kills brain cells b:surrender

the reason channeling cant be like interval is that interval increases atk rate exponentially, while channeling is either in a decay function or a linear function i believe. the more -int you have the more difference each piece makes. while for channeling, that is not exactly true, partly because the unchangeable "cast time" that exists no matter wat -chan u got, and maybe partly due to some other otherworldly factors that my brain cannot process because its too advanced for my understanding...

but yea, chan and int should go hand in hand and should have roughly the same effect. idk why cast speed has to be a constant.

Elanxu - Dreamweaver

FaceRolI - Sanctuary wrote: »

this is correct its is -3 chan rune, it is a cheaper rune, but only lasts 30 mintues.



there is a difference in speed b/w -90 and -99. over 99 resets to 90. over 100 used to look like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQWUtAwt_tU&feature=related. ive had 103% chan and it does not work like that though. b:sad



lol... idk.. you could copy past link of the - chan wiz... maybe..

-138% channeling? wat the hell kind of gear do u have/wat skills/genie/pots do you use lol?

i should ask...what game do you play lol?