Tokens price jumped incredibly!?

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary

On LC token tokens here were about 13.6k ea and suddenly within a couple hours people are selling them for 17-23k EA!!! what the heck!?

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Is there leaked info involving a new feature PW is throwing in this maint involving tokens?


Just a thought..... b:avoid

VKnightV - Lost City

well i found a caar shop selling them for 13k.

i think the seller is one and same person and monopolising the tokens

so dont buy in a day or two and see then lowering the prices

CrusherJam - Dreamweaver

We got that on Dreamweaver , you can tell that its the same or a group of similar people

that try to drive up token prices. They are the same that do fake bids in WC to pretend

something is more valuable then it is. As stated above don't buy em and wait it out.

Jooordan - Lost City

we have alot of that on lc... books/charms etc. i saw a guy buy allthe charms at 4 mil today and then raise it to 6 mil. Same guy double the prices of demon dragons/sage vortex/ and other semi rare books.

Flamespirit - Dreamweaver

Well with it becoming the end of 2x...alot of people have alot of coin and like last time at the end of 2x there is not any decent orbs sale or pack sale so they aren't buying gold necesarily so why not use all that coi to buy up every token an simply mark it up. people will buy it cause they need them for skilss,wines, an hypers an well junk.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

there is currently no market for tokens b:chuckle

zakff7

well im in archosaur server but wth jumped from 13k to 17k?!
lol they rise price here from 11.5 to 13 and im damn angery idk if they do that here what i gona do
HATE RESELLER

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

having 10k tokens in account stash solves the need-for-tokens problem
and you can restock when price is at its low peak

no need to QQ on predictable price fluctuations

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

low peak

b:scorn

Sneaker - Dreamweaver

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

having 10k tokens in account stash solves the need-for-tokens problem
and you can restock when price is at its low peak

no need to QQ on predictable price fluctuations

Tokens fluctuate with pak sales b:kiss

RyuTiger - Raging Tide

The problem of this game is that we depend to much on token like hp herbs and mp who you really really need at 90+ because you cant play the game with normal pots and there is wine's and other stuff you cant live without in the game. Imagine that people stop selling tokens, this game will be over for us who cant boutique for token and charm. PWI must stop thinking about get top 10 most rich people and put in game better pots and cheaper. Not everyone cant afford to spend 500k + on token to make herb you know.....Give us some damn good pots so we dont have to buy tokens from loser's who make them 20k!

Kerona - Sanctuary

Sanc has a token crime syndicate (mafia).

Low prices all the time.

Or else.b:shocked

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide

technically, lets say packs cost 450k each(or close, this is clean math at 450k).

so a fail pack, gives 15 tokens, which you paid 30k each for.

this then defines the ceiling of the token price. anything below 30k is still a deal so to speak.

it is the big pack people that throw them away for 9.8k that goof up the real price, which should be 30k each.

but i am not complaining. i like the 10-12k price just fine too.

krittycat

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »

technically, lets say packs cost 450k each(or close, this is clean math at 450k).

so a fail pack, gives 15 tokens, which you paid 30k each for.

this then defines the ceiling of the token price. anything below 30k is still a deal so to speak.

it is the big pack people that throw them away for 9.8k that goof up the real price, which should be 30k each.

but i am not complaining. i like the 10-12k price just fine too.

While your math would be sound considering the price from the pack, considering the price from a different angle produces a different result. Teleacoustics, namely. They are actually what set a legitimate token price... too high and it's outrageous, too low and you'll be sold out of tokens in no time flat, only to see people reselling them at slightly higher prices and making a profit on it.

The highest I've ever seen tokens peak is 20k, and that was during the time when packs weren't on sale and people were just buying any tokens they could find.

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide

KrittyCat wrote: »

While your math would be sound considering the price from the pack, considering the price from a different angle produces a different result. Teleacoustics, namely. They are actually what set a legitimate token price... too high and it's outrageous, too low and you'll be sold out of tokens in no time flat, only to see people reselling them at slightly higher prices and making a profit on it.

The highest I've ever seen tokens peak is 20k, and that was during the time when packs weren't on sale and people were just buying any tokens they could find.

i don't really agree with the term "legitimate". i would replace it with "fluke"

do the boutique tele price math for the real value of teles and you will see it is way more than 10k per tele.

i could see everyone wising up and selling their pack tokens for 25-30k some day for sure.

edit: people may be outraged if they wish, but if all the tokens are 30k and they want to wc, then they will pay.

Kerona - Sanctuary

Tokens can be "wined", or turned into Wedding Wine and then turned into iforgetthename at Wedding Dude which npc for a set price, which sets a minimum price for the tokens. You won't see merchants fall below this minimum price.

Top price I've seen on Sanc was around 18k, I believe before the Token Merchant Mafia (TMM!) started. I'm actually not sure what keeps it below this price aside from this... Telecoustics? Sounds possible. Probably just people refuse to buy it at the price Wine from Mats > Wine from Tokens.

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »

i don't really agree with the term "legitimate". i would replace it with "fluke"

do the boutique tele price math for the real value of teles and you will see it is way more than 10k per tele.

i could see everyone wising up and selling their pack tokens for 25-30k some day for sure.

edit: people may be outraged if they wish, but if all the tokens are 30k and they want to wc, then they will pay.

Token at 25-30k is dumb. For about a few k more, I could just buy myself a pack and get tokens that way plus a chance to get something better.

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Token at 25-30k is dumb. For about 5k more, I could just buy myself a pack and get tokens that way plus a chance to get something better.

right, now u r better off buying packs for your tokens, which sets the true upper level of the token value.

so they would never reach the actual pack cost. but 10k is an artificially low price for that item. i have commented to friends about that for a long time now, tokens are way undervalued.

edit: ya i have a pile of them stashed too lol

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Token prices can't really go much higher because even with this crappy pack sale people are still opening packs. Consider that for every best luck token you see the Duke Shout there are about 1000 normal tokens that are produced. I'm still seeing about 3 best luck tokens per hour on sanc.

Tokens will be priced at whatever price the market is willing to buy at that rate. It is stupid for any merchant to fight against this market price. Too high and you won't be able to make any sales. Too low and you'll sell out your stock quickly without enough profit.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

RyuTiger - Raging Tide wrote: »

The problem of this game is that we depend to much on token like hp herbs and mp who you really really need at 90+ because you cant play the game with normal pots and there is wine's and other stuff you cant live without in the game. Imagine that people stop selling tokens, this game will be over for us who cant boutique for token and charm. PWI must stop thinking about get top 10 most rich people and put in game better pots and cheaper. Not everyone cant afford to spend 500k + on token to make herb you know.....Give us some damn good pots so we dont have to buy tokens from loser's who make them 20k!

you can do the divine thingy quest and get pots. i do it for hp pots.
and even if tokens go 20k (they were 20k) mana pots are still quite cheap...

akosireann

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »

people may be outraged if they wish, but if all the tokens are 30k and they want to wc, then they will pay.

b:laugh Anything to shut up 90% of the Raging Trolls in RT is fine by me

MageMERC - Harshlands

Tokens are such an important part of the game, as I said before, price should be regulated by PWI. Have and NPC that buys and sells. Pack sales prolly wouldnt be affected, only the merchants would complain.

WnbTank - Archosaur

zakff7 wrote: »

well im in archosaur server but wth jumped from 13k to 17k?!
lol they rise price here from 11.5 to 13 and im damn angery idk if they do that here what i gona do
HATE RESELLER

Oh you poor thing - resellers actually keep tokens steady. What archo experienced was 2x and ppl wanting to free coins, resulting into dirt cheap tokens. Now 40 silver packs are gone and there is shortage of tokens. I myself expect prices rising to 14k unless we get another decent packsale or if gold drops to compensate to make existing packsale desirable.