HA Mystic and Devil CHiuya

Yarefea - Lost City

Hi im new to pwi and ive made three classes so far
Mystic lvl24 (obviously)
Assassin lvl 37 (too much health 1500 lols)
Wizzy (fav)
As i was lvling my mystic i noticed that the Devil Chiyu description talke about how it does damage based on casters phy atk
So wouldnt a HA mystic get more attack out of a devil chuyu?(srry cant speel4 mi liph)
And also any tips on how to lvl quickly, and what monsters to grind on??
PLEASE DO NOT SAY CASH SHOP
BEEN THERE DONE THAT IT CAN SUCK ON MY AFRICAN ______ b:angry(fill in the blank)

dog10250

1:

A. HA mystics suck unless you got a lot of $$ to spend freely on PWI to make a good one. Ideally your supposed to be Arcane armored.

B. Your skills and attack damage are all based on your magic and your heals are based on your magic. HA Mystics cant heal all that good. Stick to "1 str(till 54 STR max) and 4mag(all out till level 100)" every level.

C. Devil will never hold aggro over you and dies way easily, its no venomancer tanking style pet. You have 2 other pets who are more commonly used to protect people and aoe, the devil is the least used in my opinion unless solo-questing.

-Avoid HA Mystic just for high devil attack, since you don't seem to want to cash shop. And because your physicial attack is never going to be high, all your damage comes from magic.

2. Do all your quests and daily quests at lvl 30+ and you'll lvl in no time. This game is more quest-focused then grind-focused(until lvl 75 where you can grind FC dungeon to 100 easily)

I suggest you explore mystic more as you lvl and you'll understand what a mystic really is, don't make any hasty decisions.

/eren - Dreamweaver286

Yarefea - Lost City wrote: »

As i was lvling my mystic i noticed that the Devil Chiyu description talke about how it does damage based on casters phy atk
So wouldnt a HA mystic get more attack out of a devil chuyu?(srry cant speel4 mi liph)
And also any tips on how to lvl quickly, and what monsters to grind on??
PLEASE DO NOT SAY CASH SHOP
BEEN THERE DONE THAT IT CAN SUCK ON MY AFRICAN ______ b:angry(fill in the blank)

"Summons a Devil Chihyu to assist you, which deals Physical
damage. Use Energy Leech to improve your Physical Defense
by _% and Critical Hit Rate by _% for 20 seconds."

i dont see anything about physical attack of the mystic in that. I have already tested this with a friend. at equal level with equivalent gear (hes HA I'm AA) his devil had about 1k more hp and phys attack but 1k less defense than mine. in a devil vs devil battle they knocked each other out in a draw. when it came to him vs me he barely scratched my hp with magic attacks and his absorb soul only took off about 1/3 my hp. when i hit him with magic he about died. my absorb soul took off 2/3 his hp. in a dual of storm mistress vs storm mistress mine crushed his.

he is now 4 levels above me with high refines and rank gear. he beats me about as often as i beat him.

Retsuko - Heavens Tear

Why use devil chiyu as DD pet?

/eren - Dreamweaver288

because it deals full damage no matter the mob. its also nice to have something when your backs against the wall and you cant use your mana for more than healing yourself which is a case i have found myself in when soloing a boss a few times. ide start with salvation and hit the boss good n hard then realize oh dear...seems it bursts salvations bubble faster than it recovers -spam heals self with full aggro and quickly summons devil- -devil solos while i try to keep my mana flowing-

for a less "end of your rope" reason.. simple. devil deals phys damage which is nice vs other casters

Retsuko - Heavens Tear

I only use devil in pk/tw.

VoItaire - Harshlands

Retsuko - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why use devil chiyu as DD pet?

Because you're in the middle of a non aoe instance and you notice you only have 10 pots left. :x

Retsuko - Heavens Tear

VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »

Because you're in the middle of a non aoe instance and you notice you only have 10 pots left. :x

I use mana charm and always make sure to be stocked up incase charm runs out. b:surrender

VoItaire - Harshlands

Mana charms would be more attractive if they didn't tick at 75%. >.>

Eoria - Harshlands

I can't be arsed to use MP charms on mystic. Hell, I don't even use them on my cleric outside of a few TWs.

/eren - Dreamweaver289

-looks at mp regen skill and sage spark- something about pots?

TwentyTwoTwo - Raging Tide

looks at mp regen 5 minute cooldown, and looks at 300 chi required for a sage spark lol...smh. i pk alot and run instances often, an mp charm lasts me at least a couple weeks, i have 10.5k mp and rarly even use mp crab to help.

Retsuko - Heavens Tear

I like mp charms because it lets me focus on what must be done. Especially in tw. So dont have to worry about my mp all the time. I still use mana herbs though, keeps my charm from ticking.

/eren - Dreamweaver292

TwentyTwoTwo - Raging Tide wrote: »

looks at mp regen 5 minute cooldown, and looks at 300 chi required for a sage spark lol...smh. i pk alot and run instances often, an mp charm lasts me at least a couple weeks, i have 10.5k mp and rarly even use mp crab to help.

i have never used a charm on Veren and he's 96 <.< the 5 minute cooldown mp gain and triple spark with maybe 1 mp food once in awhile is all i have ever needed when im not healing or fighting bosses o:

between spamming sage natures vengeance and the minute cooldown of master Li's technique i have 3 sparks about every minute to minute and a half which over the course of 5 minutes is just enough to keep my mana high enough for clear thoughts to cool off <.< by the time im hitting the point im so low on mana that i cant recover and i need food the boss is dead b:laugh

perhaps yall are far more aggressive than i am? i dont cash shop and i dont have much coin, never have, so im not wasteful on mp food. i just take my time enjoy the game and die far less than most people while still pulling my weight in the squad.

the meditate ability returns mana plenty fast enough for me questing and in a squad i can support plenty without burning insane amounts of mana. control your casting finger a bit, hold back to recover some. your squad wont mind and wont even notice.





but enough about that let return to the topic shall we?
We are not venos. we do not have a fox form we do not need to run in and melee. we do not support our summons like pets we use them to augment ourselves. thats why we can leech them for bonuses. we are the DD we hit far harder than the summon ever could(yes even on ??? bosses you will eventually out DD it). devil is not a herc nor will it ever be, it is simply the physical counterpart to storm mistress. just another "skill" we use to add another form of damage to the wood we are already dealing just like a wizard has fire water and earth attacks. for us to go HA to try and boost the devils physical ability would be like an archer adding magic so it can hover with elven wings. you weaken yourself and all your other summons for a minimal gain on a single skill. why do you think the class is restricted to magical weapons? we are designed to be magic users. why cripple a mage by taking part of its magic away? and dont say physical defense because now you are weaker to magic. verdant shell and some ornaments has been plenty for me in physical defense unless im being stupid.

VoItaire - Harshlands

That's all well and good if you don't PvP, but it's impossible to actually PvP without spending much mana without extended break periods. If you're in an actual fight against someone, you don't have time to worry about 2 second channel, 1 second cast skill that restores mana.

/eren - Dreamweaver293

your right about pvp. but i have no experience in that other than in TW and even that is limited for me in this class since i don't belong to one of the top 3 factions of my server. but really if you are heavy into pvp you probably know you will be paying for it so really would the costs of keeping your MP up even be a strong dent to your wallet? compared to say getting the gear to be decent enough for pvp? i used to burn 100 mp food an hour in TW but that was only once a week to every few weeks. nothing i cant afford even as a noncasher.
but honestly does it matter ones MP cost? since we knew this was an MP burning class from the start we have no right to complain about our choice to play it but just learn to cope or re role (and it really doesn't have a thing to do with the thread)

VoItaire - Harshlands

I've no problem with spamming mana pots as needed because they're not expensive at all.(Though token prices are getting kinda annoying with their fluctuations and whatnot) I just dislike mana charms because I find them to waste quite a bit of mana since they tick so early. I mean, at 75% for mana, really? It is not that much of an emergency :x and it pretty much makes it almost impossible to use clear thoughts efficiently.

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear

people have their prefference on how they play.

onto the question asked, I wouldnt go HA bc the mag attack you lose as compair to what you gain on ur devil is terible. someone correct me but isnt all ur summon's dmg bonus from gear comes from ur mag attck? devil wasnt meant to tank to begin with, it was to supliment ur mystic's ability weather pve or pvp, it is up to u figure out how to use ur summon properly.

SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear wrote: »

people have their prefference on how they play.

onto the question asked, I wouldnt go HA bc the mag attack you lose as compair to what you gain on ur devil is terible. someone correct me but isnt all ur summon's dmg bonus from gear comes from ur mag attck? devil wasnt meant to tank to begin with, it was to supliment ur mystic's ability weather pve or pvp, it is up to u figure out how to use ur summon properly.

All summons damage comes from your magic attack so going HA not only gimps your own damage but also that of the summons reducing your DD power significantly. I have a HA mystic as I had success with my HA cleric and would not recommend it for anything other than surviving initial hits from sins in pk.

I don't play it often but do go through a fair bit of MP food (personal preference to spam skills). The devil does gain a fair bit of pdef from being HA and at high refines will have a decent HP pool - however as everyone has said the damage output is nothing and you are better off tanking yourself, not to mention a lot faster.

Retsuko - Heavens Tear

The amount of physical attack your devil gets is based on the magic attack of your weapon and rings or other gear with magic attack points. Magic points and base magic attack has no influence on your pet's physical attack. So if you're HA with r8 and r9 rings and +12 r9 mystic wand, your pet will do as much damage as mine still even though i'm full magic.

Xaner - Dreamweaver

Retsuko - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The amount of physical attack your devil gets is based on the magic attack of your weapon and rings or other gear with magic attack points. Magic points and base magic attack has no influence on your pet's physical attack. So if you're HA with r8 and r9 rings and +12 r9 mystic wand, your pet will do as much damage as mine still even though i'm full magic.

But, It will have more tanking ability if you are HA....
But HA mystics are..... *facepalm* not very good...

/eren - Dreamweaver303

in my opinion if you even need to use devil to tank then rerole a veno cuz this class aint for you ijs

Torvold - Lost City

just make a AA mystic it really is good and devil is perfect for stun lock combo whit the sleep plant . but NEVER make a HA mystic it is really teribel ure not a veno but a mystic ure suposed to be squishy thats why we got Salvation.
and if u want to heal ure zelf fast u need AA mystic because it can safe ure life many thimes in pve and pvp. and gl whit it ^^

PheosNyx - Sanctuary

Idk why you guys say chiyu can't tank o.o I've tanked bosses in fcc before when no one can hold his aggro (pre 89 levels)

/eren - Dreamweaver325

oh it can tank just fine....but you arent a veno and your damage is far superior to devils. our point is its a physical storm mistress and people need to stop treating the class like a venomancer and the summon like a glacial walker(if anything its stats compare to the scorpion). want another major disadvantage to HA? how about the fact all the "bonuses" that devil gets mean nothing when your magic is so low the heal summon skill cant heal your "tank" so it dies anyway. sure the devil can tank some of the weaker stuff (and FC is really weak sorry..i mean ive tanked with storm mistress in there) but when it gets down to it your better off taking the abuse yourself with salvations buff. if it can kill you with salvs buff and while you are healing yourself then devil wouldnt stand a chance anyway. your self heals and hp/def are better than heal summon and devils stats.