R8 Recast fists

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

So, I have a set of unsharded, unrefined R8 fists I wish to recast. I'm going to be aiming for Attack levels. I'm 2.86 base/4.0 sparked with R8 fists, which is fine by me. I'm a realist here, I'm not expecting to get -int on the fists, I'm looking for damage output on the fists.

I'm thinking about Recast chest as well, and will be aiming for -int on this.

And Recast leggings, for +HP regen and other possible addons (these don't get -int, so I'm looking at +str, +Pdef, +HP regen, etc).

Any suggestions? I'm using my Sin's LA gear, I will be farming HA TT99 boots and wrists. Getting -int on the chest means I would be able to switch out ornaments, wrists and boots, and still be 5.0 with Deicide. My biggest issue is I have +10 LA gear I'm using, all of it sharded with Vit shards. It's going to be a little expensive to recast chest and legs, and then get DoT and Vit Shards to shard them, plus TT99 wrists/boots, and fists, AND refine it all to endgame refine levels.

But, I don't have to do it all at once, and can do stuff one step at a time.

T_i_m - Dreamweaver

I suspect you may be better off using first-cast nirvy claws. 4.0 "works" but you won't be able to maintain HF every other spark, or even a permaspark with HF. You could use the cost savings using G13 instead of recast r8 to get better refines/shards. Post realistic self-buffed pwcalc builds and compare the two.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

If I get -int even once on the R8 recast chest, with my Deicide, I'll be 5.0 base.

4.0 base isn't really that necessary to me.

3.33 base isn't either, really, but would be nice.

Right now, the main issue I want to deal with is getting my LA back to my sin and Archer and getting HA for my BM and Barb. I think my Barb is going R9, my BM R8 Recast. I don't really want to get anymore gear for my Sin or Archer, both are pretty much 'finalized' as they are, other than maybe a Nirvana bow for my Archer later.

As for posting a PWCalc build with R8 recast fists vs G13 first cast fists... Well... Who knows what stats I'm going to get on R8 fists once I've rolled them? As it stands though, certain procs aside, the R8 Recast fists, if I can get them to 5.0, would out DPS at a quick glance a set of Nirvana fists, both at +10. For Permaspark as a HF ****, I can keep my Deicide and some interval Vana pants around, which would probably get me to 4.0 or even 5.0 base, depending on what stats I get on my Chest. That should be good enough for that, and make getting chi at the beginning of a Nirvana run very fast and painless.

TheDan - Sanctuary

I wouldn't even bother with R8 recast tbh. It's a 1.37% chance to get interval on the chest and a 0.13% chance to get interval on the fists. You're looking at ~73 re-rolls on chest to get interval or ~769 re-rolls on fists to get interval on those once.

I'd also have to recommend you just keeping with LA99 wrists / chest from archer/sin and get the TT99 chest / belt with HA nirvana pants being the cheapest path. Re-rolling for interval on R8 recast money would be better off being put into R9 or something. This is coming from someone who re-rolled their G15 fists 85 times (1.2B) before finally going for R9 and having nothing left to merchant with after..

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

I wouldn't even bother with R8 recast tbh. It's a 1.37% chance to get interval on the chest and a 0.13% chance to get interval on the fists. You're looking at ~73 re-rolls on chest to get interval or ~769 re-rolls on fists to get interval on those once.

I'd also have to recommend you just keeping with LA99 wrists / chest from archer/sin and get the TT99 chest / belt with HA nirvana pants being the cheapest path. Re-rolling for interval on R8 recast money would be better off being put into R9 or something. This is coming from someone who re-rolled their G15 fists 85 times (1.2B) before finally going for R9 and having nothing left to merchant with after..

I'd aim for -int on the chest only. Aiming for damage addons on the Fists.

I've got TT99 LA Wrists and boots and Nirvana LA Pants right now. TT99 HA Ornaments.

Getting -int on the chest would allow for a greater deal of flexibility, including being 5.0 with any fist in the game, or if I used a Deicide, I could go with better boots/leggings for more Defense while still being 5.0 while sparked. R8r chest has a great deal more def than the unrecast chest does all on it's own, and I can get addons I like. Another benefit of going R8r fists is I can stat 50 dex into Str if I wanted, and still be able to use them.

Working on a complete TT99 HA set for barb. Some of the pieces will be turned into Nirvana, but I'm also getting TT99 LA ornaments. I'm doing as much Int as I can on Barb without losing too much PDef. Not sure if I'm going to stat for my Deicides since I don't think I'll want to use them on my BM if i can get -int on my R8r chest.

supertroyman1

well u gotta remember that there r 3 additional slots for int to b in on the fists. so it might be a .13% chance but u get 3 chances per re-roll. the same thing could be said for the chest plate. that being said the odds stil arnt exactly in ur favor. but i think i might go for the fists too. ill probably get the chest first and try to get at least 1 int on that. then ill start farming for the fists. but considering that this is about the closest thing bms have to r9 fists it does make u consider it.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

supertroyman1 wrote: »

well u gotta remember that there r 3 additional slots for int to b in on the fists. so it might be a .13% chance but u get 3 chances per re-roll. the same thing could be said for the chest plate. that being said the odds stil arnt exactly in ur favor. but i think i might go for the fists too. ill probably get the chest first and try to get at least 1 int on that. then ill start farming for the fists. but considering that this is about the closest thing bms have to r9 fists it does make u consider it.

Thats a 1:256 odds using 3 x .13% to get -int. At ~70m+ per reroll...

I keep meaning to do dps calcs for these. The real reason you would consider rerolling is to increase the dph since 5.0 sparked is 5.0 sparked, whether you started at 3.33 base or 5.0. So I wouldn't bother aiming for -int on fists since its easier to get 5.0 from a single piece of -int on your armor, and then aim for dph to multiply your 5 attacks per second.

If you did get -int on fists, or double -int on armor, it'd be better defensively. You could then change out LA pieces and upgrade them to R8/R9/Nirvana. This is one reason I consider G15s probably a better endgame. Because they refine better, things like attack levels on fists start having diminishing returns while Revenge would give you better dph than R8 fists, and -int is entirely possible to get on them. Even the odds of getting it twice are better than getting it once on R8 and for 1/5 the reroll cost.

BoomBastic - Lothranis

I've been playing around on a private server to see what path i want to take gearwise.. and r8 recast mats are possible to get easy on this server.. And i re-rolled the chest +60 times and got -int and some crapy mag add-ons.. So i decided to try on a new chest.. and after about 100 re-rolls i got -int again and YAY mag adds again qQ so then i tried boots and that i re-rolled about 80-120 times before the -int.. and adds on that was crapy as well.. So after testing r8 recast completley free and theroticly how much i want.. IM NOT GOING NEAR R8 RECAST on a "normal" pwi server.. i will just pass the forges and shake my head and keep farming for R9 and high refined aps gear.. Well thats my thoughts about it.. Havent picked R8 wep yet. Might try fist just for fun.. Somebody ik on that server got the purge pole, and we tested it out, and must say.. not that impressed, seemed to be pretty much same as TT purge pole.. But was just a sort test though..

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

I'm aiming for -int on the chest only.

I'm aiming for +attack, +attack levels, and more +attack on the fists.

supertroyman1

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm aiming for -int on the chest only.

I'm aiming for +attack, +attack levels, and more +attack on the fists.

yeah thatd probably be best. if u have pan gu/ love u&d and at least 1 int on chest u can still be 5 aps sparked. but as to the comment above. um....wow 70 mil?.... i dont think itd eaxactly be that much but i could be wronge

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

supertroyman1 wrote: »

yeah thatd probably be best. if u have pan gu/ love u&d and at least 1 int on chest u can still be 5 aps sparked. but as to the comment above. um....wow 70 mil?.... i dont think itd eaxactly be that much but i could be wronge

I have a LUAD, so yeah, I'll be 3.33 base if I can get -int on my chest piece.

As for the cost, it requires 3 Damascene Ores per reroll, and as of right now, those are selling for 20m a pop. So yes, it will be very expensive to get -int on my chestpiece, but hopefully, being able to go 5.0 regardless of weapon bonuses with any fist in the game, should make up for it. It'll also improve APS with axes, which isn't really a big deal, but a nice bonus.

Saethos - Raging Tide

T_i_m - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I suspect you may be better off using first-cast nirvy claws. 4.0 "works" but you won't be able to maintain HF every other spark, or even a permaspark with HF. You could use the cost savings using G13 instead of recast r8 to get better refines/shards. Post realistic self-buffed pwcalc builds and compare the two.

Where did you hear this? I've never been 5 aps, 4 max, but was able to do that...

Sjuggs - Lost City

So many people say to not bother with r8 recast for bms
I dont know why dont bms get r8 recast, platebody is almost 50% the price of a nirvana one and it is just better (Without counting the cost of getting all the r8 reputation).

Look what I got, and defense stats are superior of those of r9 chest even though r8 isnt g16.



So just because it doesnt came up with -int it will be fail.


Aside from that, even the r8 fists without interval have a very good damage input, but yea, if you dont have some -int in the chest im not sure if those fists will be as good as some 2nd stage nirvana claws/fists.

Nigoshi - Raging Tide

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

This is coming from someone who re-rolled their G15 fists 85 times (1.2B)

...I am now alot more afraid to start re-rolling g15 claws....*** b:shocked

Sjuggs - Lost City

Just saw more 3rd cast nirvana info, just save your coins and keep using some cheap deicides b:avoid
You would be surprised http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/34777