New x2 coming.. any chance to remove the damm talismans for caster nirvy?

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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »
    also at this point, a large portion of bms and sins are farming alts, who would r9 a farming char? sins as mains idk, haven't even looked at sin r9 tbh, but most bms that are mains already have mostly, if not full nirvana gear and imo the benefits of r9 over full nirvana just doesn't justify the cost (for a bm), so seeing few r9 bms really doesn't suprise me...i have seen quite a few that have rolled archers/wizards and r9'd those chars, so i'm guessing they don't think r9 on a bm is worth it either....if it were simply not having the coin you wouldn't see bms rerolling vana fists/claws over and over and over again to get the perfect stats, that shet ain't free

    I hit most BMs in TW for more than twice as much as I hit archers with physical hits. If people don't like R9 on BM, are you sure they like being 1 shots too? If their gear is "done," then how come they are so much easier to kill than other classes? I see people like Dan, AirSonic, Sifu, got R9 and probably think it's very worth it.

    In reality, a lot of BMs are no longer fully into their class enough to invest heavily into it. Compared with the number of R9 archers and wizards, the BMs that are left in TW factions is so little. All this would be different if there were no Jones Bless cheap rank, of course. Quite a few have rolled archers and wizards because they try to adapt to the current state of TW.
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  • Solar_one - Sanctuary
    Solar_one - Sanctuary Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    As a caster myself i really dont care for caster navana much and 99.9 % of my tailmans are traded in for Mirarges , I will and have helped in caster but i prefer normal navana . ( im not even full R8 )

    Yes when i got to lvl 100 i had a hard time getting anyone to take me into the instance but i kept trying and after a while i started to get a few runs which im happy with, As i said i have done both and i dont see whats so special about caster runs compaired to normal maybe a few extra drops but.... meh

    And as for the time it takes to do a run thats a non issue for me as well if i dont have the time to do a run then ill do it another time , If a good full apps class can do 5 runs in an hour ( or how ever many they can do ) then good luck to them.

    It " IS " just a game people it wont deside the outcome of the rest of your life...
  • Deant - Raging Tide
    Deant - Raging Tide Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The dev need to work on this nirvana issue. inventing the caster nirvana was a stupid idea. Now the best they can do is merge the botn nirvanas. 1/2 phys imune bosses, 1/2 mg imunne bosses, each of them spowning ads, soo everyone has something to do. so this way u should build mixed squad with casters and apsers. This is the way to do it if u want to build comunity, not to tear ppl apart... PPL need to play togheter and teamwork.. like it is now is too stupid.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »
    From the aspect of running game, the simple existence of casters Nirvana is iffy at best. If normal Nirvana had magical immunity, then there would be a case but as it is now, casters simply got an extra instance with better droprates as far as I`ve heard. I really cant understand all this QQ bout talismans, you casters really should roll axe barb/another class that is even behind you on picking order & w/o handout instance. You guys got a handout and you are whining `cause you cant farm more efficiently than people whom have distinctly more expensive gear than you, lol.

    Im nirvy, r9 have JoSD, Vits, +11 r9 wep, love up & down, most gear +10 except my new r9 boots. Can I at least farm As efficiently as worse geared people? I dont really need to farm MORE efficiently than worse geared people than me.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Im nirvy, r9 have JoSD, Vits, +11 r9 wep, love up & down, most gear +10 except my new r9 boots. Can I at least farm As efficiently as worse geared people? I dont really need to farm MORE efficiently than worse geared people than me.

    Saying like you cant farm nirvana with your gear? Or that you should be able to solo with a Cleric? Now I would expect you could solo, just like R8 axe barbs can, just not as efficiently as some others. Or should a class designed as sole support of the game actually be able to solo efficiently? It`s not like clerics get free ride to most squads as it is now, oh wait, it actually is. The high end 4//5 aps squads wont take you but the ones with lesser gear will as they need a cleric. On top of that, you got a handout instance.

    Try rolling axe barb and comparing it to getting into Nirvana as cleric - It really is about if you got friends as nobody will take random axe barb into nirvana. But do barbs have handout nirvana? Range can never be as strong as mele or the game would be utterly broken with the aspect of balance in mind.
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »
    Saying like you cant farm nirvana with your gear? Or that you should be able to solo with a Cleric? Now I would expect you could solo, just like R8 axe barbs can, just not as efficiently as some others. Or should a class designed as sole support of the game actually be able to solo efficiently? It`s not like clerics get free ride to most squads as it is now, oh wait, it actually is. The high end 4//5 aps squads wont take you but the ones with lesser gear will as they need a cleric. On top of that, you got a handout instance.

    Try rolling axe barb and comparing it to getting into Nirvana as cleric - It really is about if you got friends as nobody will take random axe barb into nirvana. But do barbs have handout nirvana? Range can never be as strong as mele or the game would be utterly broken with the aspect of balance in mind.


    Im saying I shouldnt have to beg for reg nirvy squads. Or have people offer to do the 99 key quest but I dont share run drops LOL Caster nirvy opened up a world where we could farm like you so called "better geared". We just ask for it back without talisman restriction. Casters still dont farm as fast as aps, but the extra drops leveled that out. I have quite a few barb friend who get squads faster than me. Their devour is much better. They also have aps.
  • Manostra - Harshlands
    Manostra - Harshlands Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Why should they remove the Talismans ? Nirvana Keys should have a Timer too, that would benefit the game way more than the other way around. At this Point, normal Nirvana Runs are almost only made due x2 Drop event.

    That suck
    At least Casters have the chance to do their Nirvana Runs every day because they have to or waste their Talimsans. I really like it more this way.
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