Warsong and YOU a tip for BH100.

CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
edited March 2012 in General Discussion
So you go to the Head hunter and WAM you get Snakefist ( or cannon)

here is a tip for you that you will probably absolutely LOVE

Make sure all the pavillions are covered ( except wood )

and make sure you conquer metal.

This is why i say this. Lately this is the setup we have been using and guess what

NO SWORD MOBS. That's right no sword mobs if you do it the way i am telling you.

I believe the mobs are linked to what spawns afterwords. You will quickly get to snakefist

and be done with it.

Try it out.

We usually leave wood just because that is the way we did it and found that if you remove

metal from the equation there will be no crappy sword mobs
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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    So you go to the Head hunter and WAM you get Snakefist ( or cannon)

    here is a tip for you that you will probably absolutely LOVE

    Make sure all the pavillions are covered ( except wood )

    and make sure you conquer metal.

    This is why i say this. Lately this is the setup we have been using and guess what

    NO SWORD MOBS. That's right no sword mobs if you do it the way i am telling you.

    I believe the mobs are linked to what spawns afterwords. You will quickly get to snakefist

    and be done with it.

    Try it out.

    We usually leave wood just because that is the way we did it and found that if you remove

    metal from the equation there will be no crappy sword mobs

    So you're talking full defend everything BUT Wood, or just Metal?

    Cause I defend Metal every time and there is still sword mobs. NOT that they bug me, Id rather get rid of the lady-mobs.
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  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Assuming that's true(I have no idea),the only problem its to convince the rest of the squad to protect the pavillions.With all the lazy people around,I wouldn't be surprised if they refused...
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    It's too hard to defend all those pavilions and still be AFK for 15 minutes.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    sorry if i was not clear

    Defend all the pavilions especially Metal

    WE let wood fall because usually Metal takes two people (usually)

    and you shall not see sword mobs.

    we did this twice with the same result the girls and the beasts spawn but no sword mobs

    test it for yourself.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The number of mobs decrease for each element you successfully defend. It doesn't matter what element, it's the # of elements you defend. If you bother to look at one of the warsong guides you'll see how many successful defenses reduces the number of mobs and what types of mobs.

    And take a look to see what you gain by doing the couple of quests that are normally skipped, but you'll be surprised.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The number of mobs decrease for each element you successfully defend. It doesn't matter what element, it's the # of elements you defend. If you bother to look at one of the warsong guides you'll see how many successful defenses reduces the number of mobs and what types of mobs.

    And take a look to see what you gain by doing the couple of quests that are normally skipped, but you'll be surprised.

    it does matter what element this is what i'm telling you

    do it my way once and tell me your result. admittedly i have not read a guide but the first time we did

    this for the hell of it ( most i usually hang with hate metal so two of us said what the hell lets go)

    we had a nice result so we tested it again in a random squad.
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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The number of mobs decrease for each element you successfully defend. It doesn't matter what element, it's the # of elements you defend. If you bother to look at one of the warsong guides you'll see how many successful defenses reduces the number of mobs and what types of mobs.

    And take a look to see what you gain by doing the couple of quests that are normally skipped, but you'll be surprised.

    Gonna try this if I can find some non lazy/non wuss friends to go.

    I've done the full quests and successfully defended 3/5 pavilions on a few full runs and finished the place, but usually somehow people fail 2 of them. Other than bosses being easier (at least it seems) I see no change. If 4+ is the key I'll have to try - although I swear I've been a part of 4/5 defends and seen no change.

    In my experience a bm or sin can defend most of the pavillions easy solo. Psys solo metal very easily.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    it does matter what element this is what i'm telling you

    do it my way once and tell me your result. admittedly i have not read a guide but the first time we did

    this for the hell of it ( most i usually hang with hate metal so two of us said what the hell lets go)

    we had a nice result so we tested it again in a random squad.

    No it doesn't matter what elements you defend, you are saying defend all but 1, so you are reducing i think 60% of the mobs

    Defending any 1 reduces phys mobs

    Defending any 2 reduces magic mobs and phys mobs

    it goes on

    That's why I said read the guides they are very helpful at explaining exactly the extend of the reductions.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    No it doesn't matter what elements you defend, you are saying defend all but 1, so you are reducing i think 60% of the mobs

    Defending any 1 reduces phys mobs

    Defending any 2 reduces magic mobs and phys mobs

    it goes on

    That's why I said read the guides they are very helpful at explaining exactly the extend of the reductions.

    dude quit blindly following the guide try it

    this isn't some goofy post to try to get some one to do something out of some strange joke

    try it and get back to me.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The way i usually go each pavilion is covered except one but as i stated above

    lately we've been defending Metal. Do it this way and post your results.

    if you think its some stupid forum joke don't do it but i just figure'd id share our findings.

    no matter the game mechanics it works well.

    Apparently most squads go afk till its over then fight snake, we've never done it this way.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    dude quit blindly following the guide try it

    this isn't some goofy post to try to get some one to do something out of some strange joke

    try it and get back to me.

    I don't blindly follow the guides I have tried it, I've done FULL warsongs, though not enough to farm a belt b:surrender Why don't you try reading the guides and they'll explain to you what you think you have discovered that no one else knows.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Joke or no joke, defending the pavillions does make Warsong easier (too bad so few do a full run). I think I'll try my hand at protecting one next time it comes about. Its much more entertaining than waiting around for 15mins anyways.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I don't blindly follow the guides I have tried it, I've done FULL warsongs, though not enough to farm a belt b:surrender Why don't you try reading the guides and they'll explain to you what you think you have discovered that no one else knows.

    :faceplant on pavement:

    I haven't discovered some great special thing its just well known on the server i use that

    most will not do Metal for what ever reason. so again try it or don't lets move on.
    Joke or no joke, defending the pavillions does make Warsong easier (too bad so few do a full run). I think I'll try my hand at protecting one next time it comes about.

    If you are trying it my way make sure all are defended except Wood, we will try different

    variations and see what the result is. I will attempt to get a screen shot of our kill count.

    on screen and the start of going after snake fist on snakefist road but i've not gotten

    Warsong or Cannon for a few days ( for some reason it's been Lunar x2)

    ive never done a full run only defend the pavilions for BH100 and i was never previous to hitting Lvl 100

    once we accidently started the wrong choice ( not defend ) but most did not want to continue.
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  • _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver
    _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 753 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I just run to snake before mobs spawn with 3x holy path and kill it.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I just run to snake before mobs spawn with 3x holy path and kill it.

    It one shots you if you don't kill all the mobs.

    What's the point in working 15 minutes to defend pavilions to save 2 mins worth of killing mobs? Metal is already one of the shortest BHs.
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    What's the point in working 15 minutes to defend pavilions to save 2 mins worth of killing mobs? Metal is already one of the shortest BHs.

    I do it to stave off boredom.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    So you go to the Head hunter and WAM you get Snakefist ( or cannon)

    here is a tip for you that you will probably absolutely LOVE

    Make sure all the pavillions are covered ( except wood )

    and make sure you conquer metal.

    This is why i say this. Lately this is the setup we have been using and guess what

    NO SWORD MOBS. That's right no sword mobs if you do it the way i am telling you.

    I believe the mobs are linked to what spawns afterwords. You will quickly get to snakefist

    and be done with it.

    Try it out.

    We usually leave wood just because that is the way we did it and found that if you remove

    metal from the equation there will be no crappy sword mobs

    Who cares about swords, the dinos AoE so I'd rather have swords... on top of the fact I'd rather defend all to have the least amount of mobs.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Random quick question: Which mobs are the ones that seal? The swords or the metal girls? o_o

    I seem to always get too much agro of sealing stuff x'D
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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I do it to stave off boredom.

    This.

    And yea it's easy. Im just curious at this point. If it got rid of the ladies (and the swords) and I could just pull the whole path and aoe mow it down, Id make sure all 5 got defended each time.
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    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited March 2012
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Who cares about swords, the dinos AoE so I'd rather have swords... on top of the fact I'd rather defend all to have the least amount of mobs.

    TBH ive never been in a squad that beat all the pavillions but assuming you have, are there

    sword mobs? the reason i ask is because yes they are not the most annoying of the three

    types but its something that we blow through faster then if there was the formentioned

    type of mob. I wish the dinos or girls didn't show up but the way i do it makes it easier

    compared to the way we've always done it in the past.

    I can honestly tell you since we started doing it this way Snake dies a whole lot better

    with a whole lot less death (in the squads)

    We're not a pack of r9s most that go are Medium to High quality R8s so this tip

    might be good for some.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I personally would be interested to know that beating all the pavilions would still spawn

    each type of mob and for some reason letting wood fall and beating all the rest would

    have the effect i mentioned
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    TBH ive never been in a squad that beat all the pavillions but assuming you have, are there

    sword mobs? the reason i ask is because yes they are not the most annoying of the three

    types but its something that we blow through faster then if there was the formentioned

    type of mob. I wish the dinos or girls didn't show up but the way i do it makes it easier

    compared to the way we've always done it in the past.

    I can honestly tell you since we started doing it this way Snake dies a whole lot better

    with a whole lot less death (in the squads)

    We're not a pack of r9s most that go are Medium to High quality R8s so this tip

    might be good for some.

    I do full warsongs in about 25-35 minutes.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Random quick question: Which mobs are the ones that seal? The swords or the metal girls? o_o

    I seem to always get too much agro of sealing stuff x'D

    Both the girls and the swords seal.

    The swords do not seal as often or as "reliably", so the girls should have priority.
  • Steopie - Heavens Tear
    Steopie - Heavens Tear Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Better plan:

    Dont defend any pavilions

    Pull all the mobs in metal

    Kill them

    Win.


    or an even better plan:

    Go outside and get drunk b:bye

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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Better plan:

    Dont defend any pavilions

    Pull all the mobs in metal

    Kill them

    Win.


    or an even better plan:

    Go outside and get drunk b:bye

    b:cuteb:chuckle

    Yea i will at 105 :-)

    for now i think doing it my way is neat and works .

    man' i didn't realize most squads wait for the pavilions to die then finish
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited March 2012




    go afk 15 minutes

    come back


    make the cleric use BB

    caster uses 1 aoe skill on first group

    others attack

    bb wont get interrupted


    the instant seal is off aoe next group (no matter how many mobs are still alive), repeat ,repeat,
    repeat, move BB to next pavilion

    pull the rest

    pull boss


    done





    so hard?




    *people who die in this progress deserve it
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Who cares about sword mobs? Everyone just aoe's everything these days. Takes maybe 5 minutes to clear all the mobs?
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Better plan:

    Dont defend any pavilions

    Pull all the mobs in metal

    Kill them

    Win.


    or an even better plan:

    Go outside and get drunk b:bye

    b:cuteb:chuckle

    Or an even better even better plan, stay inside and play with your duck on webcam b:cute
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  • Naturion - Dreamweaver
    Naturion - Dreamweaver Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Lol.. guys he was being nice and wanted to share the info with everyone, lets show some appreciation. Thank you for the info