[Commentary Videp]Wizard vs BM EP.1

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

As promised

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ8VFbycSl4

Comments are welcome. 1st commentary video, please say what worked well and what didn't and I'll try my hardest to make the next one better.

Feel free to ask for clarification on my commentary on YouTube or here.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

not a bad video, i disagree about fighting bms on the ground. it is much harder for a bm to fight you in the air because they cannot use either of their sprints to catch you. Also with demon control skills your a much better air vs air fighter. Bms also have a harder time with chi in the air because there are no mobs to beat on and they have to waste chi to chase you(tiger leaps) and stun you (rotp, db, occult). I personally fight at around 15m above ground so i can drop to the ground and try to zooming thuner>mountain seize>DD and cc them in air so that they cant do anything while i DD. Usually they will fall after you and be stuck "falling" so they cant use any kind of pot.

Another side note, a good full r9 bm will open with aeolian because it hits enough damage to bring you to half on a zerk crit (fullr9vsfullr9, and has a nice chance to stun with no chi usuage. i would also add that for sage wizards sometimes it is better to try for a bids crit to bypass through magic marrow. bt hits very very with spark and xpoison but with demon marrow(which most bms have) they still have quite a bit of pdef after you reduce their mdef. Also a good bm will keep demon bell up whenever they magic marrow.

Knowing your opponents culti is important also. While fighting a sage bm, i have to say that bt>xpoison>genie spark will normally bypass their charm on a crit even at r9. Their magic marrow buffs up their mdef even more thus leaving them that much more defensless once you undine>xpoison>genie spark

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

On the subject of fighting BMs on the ground, I asked Boogie the same things a couple days back.

His answer was something along the lines of that he likes fighting on the ground better because he doesn't actively kite. That meaning that he doesn't constantly run/fly backwards. Boogie prefers to use demon distance shrink to kite and then concentrate on DDing.

I personally prefer to fly, but that's what Boogie told me when I asked.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

so your saying, that he/she prefers to tank more rather then kite and wait for a good oportunity to drop a kill?

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

No I don't think that's what he meant. He just prefers to dd without the interruption of moving backwards, and just blinks ahead 30 meters every time the BM is in mele range. He prob takes more hits though with that strategy, if that's what you meant by tanking. But it's not like he's just spamming skills and staying rooted to one spot b:chuckle

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

i dont really run anywhere either, but being in the air is nice to add the drop element to your kiting. bm gets to you, drop>hailstorm. free hits if it procs. if not you distance shrink.

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

BMs and any other class move at 8m/s in the air rather than 5m/s on the ground. Basic math suggest :

Demon DS = 30m

At 8m/s = 3.75s
At 5m/s = 6s

Quite a significant difference in time it takes for the BM to reach you. Because my Wiz lacks DD I'd rather DD and lose the air kiting ability (as does the BM) than to lose ~2s which is channeling 1 basic skill everytime I DS.

If my wizard was 5k p.def 5k HP with the same m.attack then it'll be different.

Zanryu - Lothranis

Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »

BMs and any other class move at 8m/s in the air rather than 5m/s on the ground. Basic math suggest :

Demon DS = 30m

At 8m/s = 3.75s
At 5m/s = 6s

Quite a significant difference in time it takes for the BM to reach you. Because my Wiz lacks DD I'd rather DD and lose the air kiting ability (as does the BM) than to lose ~2s which is channeling 1 basic skill everytime I DS.

If my wizard was 5k p.def 5k HP with the same m.attack then it'll be different.

Unless the BM sprints/Holy Paths to you b:avoid

Thraebskel - Archosaur

Learnt alot from that, interesting Duels.

I like how you randomly time out to Phoenix mobs b:victory

_Mg_Zr - Heavens Tear

Good video

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »

Unless the BM sprints/Holy Paths to you b:avoid

BM sprint from max distance still means I can get off 1 skill + FoW which is really no different to flying. BMs on RT rarely HP towards me, it's usually away.

Spell_Caster - Raging Tide

Good video. I like the fact you are among the few who keep trying, all the lazy wizzies out there dont record it. Now...BM is amazingly hard to kill...I remember having to beat Drigan in PK, it's such a pain. A+12 all items JoSD BM like Zarkin would be really hard to put down, even with the spark combo. Air fights are best for Bm fights, especially with the new skill, you use ur time skill, drop on the ground and hit him. He comes for you and booff...he's back in the air with you doing 100% dmg on him.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

im still of the opinion that air fighting is better due to them being at a flat rate 8.0 as same as me. no sprints, no holy path, and timing a fall with the start of their stun lock is a nice way to let your genie regen without being in danger. not to mention spell_casters scenario, at which point you could also cc them while they are in teh air. more then likely leading to a kill

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

That's basically the argument I made before, that you're both moving at the same speed. But Boogie says that because he's not moving, therefore not taking advantage of the bonus to speed his flyer gives, that the BM reaps the benefits of the bonus to flying speed while he himself does not.
His argument makes sense in the context that his strategy is to not kite and only use blink, but whether that's the best overall strategy against a bm is questionable.

SpazzMcAps - Harshlands

I wanna be a good wiz like you when i grow up. Im trying for a crit dex build like you. nice vid

HardToThink - Lost City

I want to see a mystic one. [URL=" http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/en/pwi/fancontent/upload/3/bd/1304709976363842.jpg"]Bms aren't very hard for wizzys.[/URL]

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

i you htt. i agree with killanator, i just disagree with the overall strategy of only using blink to kite. with me being sage i am a bit biased due to my shorter distance shrink but i've played demon mage extensivly as well and in my experience. If you play a demon mage like you do a sage mage, with the exception of spaming your cc, your virtually unkillable in a 1v1. this is due to the fact that you should have full chi when your outta sz and not using it all on a 20chi blink every 10 secs will keep you from being hit much at all.

Spell_Caster - Raging Tide

HardToThink - Lost City wrote: »

I want to see a mystic one. [URL=" http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/en/pwi/fancontent/upload/3/bd/1304709976363842.jpg"]Bms aren't very hard for wizzys.[/URL]

My hero! b:dirtyb:kissb:dirty