Descent Expansion - love or laugh?

neaderick

Hello. I used to play PWI few years ago and really enjoyed it but for some reasons, I had no time to play and quitted. I was coming back once in a while though and I saw the things were going bad way. R9+12, Assasins, et cetera, you all know what I mean.

Now I check the PWI site and... OMG, new expansion! And what's in it... probably another Cash Shot things only, well, what else can I expect... OMGWTF, something about balancing classes?! Wait, am I dreaming? ...... No, I'm not.

Now's the question: Did the balance really work out or is it just for looks? I saw new skills on ecatomb.net but don't know much about nerfing already existing ones. I would greatly appreciate any opinions or reviews!

Who knows, maybe PWI is worth going back to... not like I'm going to ever stand a chance against Cash Shoppers but oh well, there are people enjoying game and crazy CSers reaching 105 in a week... Fail to see any delight here.

HardToThink - Lost City

No, it made a bigger gap. Most of the skills success rate's are decided by soulforce, which is how well your gear is refined. In a 1vs1 against a bm friend of mine who has +11-12 refines it failed 5/6 times.

Aldryami - Sanctuary

Another thing they didn't do is adjust the old class skills to bring them into line with the Assassin skills (short cooldown, more powerful, etc) so, no, the expansion did not balance the classes.

In its favour though I have found myself joining random squads, for the first time in years, to kill quest mobs in Morai. Hopefully they will add more such quests.

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver

It did add a new area, and it did give endgame people a reason to quest again. The area itself is nice as well.

The skills fall short though. They are dependent on soulforce...which is dependennt on refines, which is random at best, and costly at worst.

They also do not help the other classes to line line up with the tideborn classes, so it did fail to balance things out.

Clerics specifically got screwed with this expansion, as we get a move that disables all healing, and increases our damage in a nonexistent manner. (Not trying to start a debate on it, or derail the thread, but it is my opinion.)

That said, I will state that I love the new area, love the new quests for endgame players, love the new and love the music that is there, and the music that came back from when it was deleted from a previous expansion.

I like the new armor, and weapons. (The weapon isn't exactly great for my class), like the new pet for venos, like the new spawn time for world bosses. (So I can suicide them on my cleric, and screenshot them. Haven't even seen most of them due to people camping them.)

I laugh at the class balance, and the laugh whole heartedly from a deep place at the notion that the cleric skills (aside from the no xp loss one) being good skills. Some skills for certain classes are good, but others get shafted, so pwi could have...and should have done a LOT better in this department.

charles

Balance?Hell yeah.
Should be hella fun trying to kill a full r9+12 with jods archer and if you "manage" to almost bring him down after his endless anti-stuns ironguards he will just "Shadow escape"(new stealth skill) and after some cooldows he will pop out again to easily kill you

Balance?Hell yeah
-5% dmg on 4+aps and -20% accuracy?Yeah like a r9+12 sin needs 4+aps to kill you and the 10k+hits he does with zerk crits will be so nurfed with -5% dmg

+more that i am bored to write now

Naturion - Dreamweaver

My opinion.. just laugh at this expansion, the only useful thing we got was the new skills but even they fail alittle bit. I thought they were gonna edit the old skills and reduce some of the cooldowns but yah or maybe give bms a chi skill just like sins lmao.

But yeah theres nothing great about the expansion its just the skills but thoose skills takes forever to get so meh, and the new instance lol.... pve gears? give me a break.
This game is a dead end, no decent instance to farm since r9 is in the shop, so bye bye nirvana and TT prices -.-.b:bye

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

I love the expansion. I'm not a person of huge expectations, so it didn't disappoint me too much.

But I love this game. I just play it and not complain unless it's necessary.

Toliman - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I love the expansion. I'm not a person of huge expectations, so it didn't disappoint me too much.

But I love this game. I just play it and not complain unless it's necessary.

When it was necessary to complain for Assassins ?

Edit:

Look at OP post.

neaderick wrote: »

Hello. I used to play PWI few years ago and really enjoyed it but for some reasons, I had no time to play and quitted. I was coming back once in a while though and I saw the things were going bad way. R9+12,Assasins, et cetera, you all know what I mean...

Yusiong - Lost City

New map and skills seem to be pretty awesome. Can't wait to see what fun PvP will be with archers popping out of stealth to drop people......looking forward to the sins QQing about stealthing archers b:chuckle

Sidwinder - Heavens Tear

I like it the new area and dailies give me more to work toward's other than grinding exp and coin. It reminds me of my day's on other MMO's doing daily quest's for rep and other currencies to get new skill's or crafting recipe's.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

All game is garbage.
1. Many players cheated to lv. 105 and never been punished.
2. They put for one day to boutique +11 and +12 orbs. Just for 1 day and then they told us BS, that it make client instability so they removed it. So many players can have +12 while others NOT!!!b:angry
3. They put Rank 9 and rank 8 to boutique so if you have a lot of money 1500$ you can buy 1shot gear.
4. Managing the game is horrible. No GM responds, many, many glitches unfixed for years + new others.
5. Totally unbalanced classes especially in PWE where APS dominate all game and caster are useless.

Go away as fast as you can. If you stay you will regret it.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Descent is fun. I like it. Kinda dislike the daily; but it's not like you have to - and each order gets a different selection; which is kinda fun.

Lots of prettiness (too much! Turned down settings) some fun fights, some interesting mobs (giant adalwolves are hilarious) plot... yeah. But at least it pokes fun at itself.

And stuff to aim for - not stuff you get immediately (even if it is just a speedbump.)

Oh! And brining everyone up to a base gear standard? Lovely.
More content like descent, please.

Castgurl - Raging Tide

Meh.

Another expansion, same old game.

Looks purty though, like gosh PWE, FREAKING GOSH!

Okay, seriously though,

I was pretty impressed with it. They did a decent job with the new mobs that were introduced along with the expansion. The new areas look very good. The new dailies..well, they're okay I guess, I barely get the time to do them. Nor the patience. b:laugh
Like a previous poster said, not many were expecting much... I wasn't really expecting much from them as well. What I was really worried though was if they were going to release yet ANOTHER f'n race with it...thank god they didn't (yet b:shocked)


So happy face for: new stuff.

Sad face for: 105pwnassnabsthatfcndntknow****abouttheirclassthenrollasinthenQQcuztheyisafarmernopinpk

ArenaSkies - Sanctuary

I think mystics and clerics got mixed up a bit. We got some skills that make us better support, meanwhile clerics get more DD skills. I would have liked more DD skills for my mystic, but one skill makes up for it.

The fact that we can unstealth people with the new 100 skill. That, I think, will make archers and sins much more difficult to kill mystics.

So for a mystic, I'm happy with the result b:victory

CapnK - Sanctuary

Love the expansion. It's well-designed overall, and lets people without masses of time or money get some decent gear. Like this set from Endless Universe:

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2874/infinityarmorset.jpg

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

HardToThink - Lost City wrote: »

No, it made a bigger gap. Most of the skills success rate's are decided by soulforce, which is how well your gear is refined. In a 1vs1 against a bm friend of mine who has +11-12 refines it failed 5/6 times.

Minimum success rate is 40% o.o

Crusty_Bone - Lost City

neaderick wrote: »

Hello. I used to play PWI few years ago and really enjoyed it but for some reasons, I had no time to play and quitted. I was coming back once in a while though and I saw the things were going bad way. R9+12, Assasins, et cetera, you all know what I mean.

Now I check the PWI site and... OMG, new expansion! And what's in it... probably another Cash Shot things only, well, what else can I expect... OMGWTF, something about balancing classes?! Wait, am I dreaming? ...... No, I'm not.

Now's the question: Did the balance really work out or is it just for looks? I saw new skills on ecatomb.net but don't know much about nerfing already existing ones. I would greatly appreciate any opinions or reviews!

Who knows, maybe PWI is worth going back to... not like I'm going to ever stand a chance against Cash Shoppers but oh well, there are people enjoying game and crazy CSers reaching 105 in a week... Fail to see any delight here.

but there is a quest that turns you into a rat. A RAT!!!!!

A RAT WITH A BROOM AS A WEAPON!!!!!!!!

Vindrael - Lost City

I like the expansion. The Morai PvE gear is far better than anything else you can get at level 95 (for PvE; PvP the gear sucks). But, it means at level 95 you get a ton of experience from the quest chain and a good weapon to make FC's and farming TT easier.

For a change, PWI actually gave free players something to farm that's pretty good. The upgraded Morai weapons (the G15 ones) are close to rank 9 in PvE because they use "slaying levels" that multiply (not add) with your attack levels. With a Jones blessing, the PvE weapons do roughly 85% more damage than it looks like they should do; at level 95, that puts them roughly on par with rank 8 weapons.

So, if you're a PvE player and like to farm instances, this expansion makes the game fun again. If you're a PvP player, go play LoL or BF3 or something because the PvP still mostly sucks. TW is interesting again because they reset the map every 6 months, giving all the smaller guilds a chance to TW against each other. This is literally the first time in YEARS that I've been in multiple-hour TWs that have been full of strategy and fun.

Overall, I give the new expansion an A for PvE and a B- for PvP. It's not bad, but it wasn't enough to balance anything correctly. At least it was something new though. b:pleased

OIdpop - Heavens Tear

The new expansion added a new ghost town map..you might se a green dot eventually.And new afk zones at each of the orders.Only thing i do is soem daily divine **** for books to sell..and i must say its been VERY profitable..EASY MONEYb:laugh

I think thats the only + Morai has is the books for me to sell.

Elanxu - Dreamweaver

in my opinion, it was a fun expansion with a lot more to do, but it did next to nothing to help balance out the game and it also spurred cash shopping more.

seitori

Lets put it this way....... LoLOLvLOLoLzzz!!!b:laugh


Think of 'Humpty Dumpty' from the old 'Nursery Rhymes' (X)'s that by 1,000'!! and put it on a Final HOSPICE! "God rest its soul"b:flowerb:cold


~DESCENT's~ Only widened the gap between the 'Payers & the Players' the 'Highs & the Lows' the 'Haves & Have Nots'___b:chuckle___'Ernie & Burt!' 'Snuffa & Luffagus!!' 'Tom & Jerry!!!' 'Frontala & bodamy!!!!' 'Penn & Teller!!!!!' 'Michael & the Jacksons!!!!!!' Alvin & the Friggen Chipmunks!!!!!!!' and about a million others.......



All while ignoring the fact, that for the game too survive. "they needed new stuff for the newer players to be able to do..." And not just add content only for us older players........


Sad! But True!!.........b:surrender

Ruxal - Harshlands

It seems they is very little emphasis placed on game balance where PvP is concerned.