Aesthetics vs Practicality
_Raiton_ - Harshlands
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I have a mold for the "wind and the clouds" legendary slingshot, which with the minus interval seems to be the most practical weapon for around its level. But i cant help but feel i would sacrifice the obviously superior stats and -interval, just to use a cool looking bow. Am i the only archer that feels this way? Because personally i prefer bows over crossbows, and dislike slingshots a lot due to the way they look. So basically, do you think that it is worth the loss of stats, just for the look of a awesome glowing bow b:surrender
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Just use what you like... That's what I always do... It's not like you'll see THAT much difference being an archer of that lvl... By the time your weapon will start to matter more there will already be a large selection of each type to choose from... b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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... Is this a troll?
This "dilemma" has been around for... forever? It was already old when I got my Archer to 69 and that was ages ago.
Use Wind and the Clouds, it has vastly superior DPS.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »... Is this a troll?
This "dilemma" has been around for... forever? It was already old when I got my Archer to 69 and that was ages ago.
Use Wind and the Clouds, it has vastly superior DPS.
No troll... 1. no reasonable archer wants to purposely take agro at that lvl... 2. Unicorn works just as well at 70-80... b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The -int stat on the slingshot makes little difference, the fact it does alot less dmg than the equvalent tt crossbow makes a lot of difference. So if u want to do more dmg use the crossbow.
Me, i used the wind and clouds on my archer, it was a fun weapon.What kind of fool pays for a free game.0 -
practical =/= optimal
One could argue that any weapon you can use at least most of your skills with around your level is practical. Use what you want. If you take the game seriously and only want to use the optimal weapon, this question wouldn't even come up. It seems some posters fail to realize this...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
_Raiton_ - Harshlands wrote: »I have a mold for the "wind and the clouds" legendary slingshot, which with the minus interval seems to be the most practical weapon for around its level. But i cant help but feel i would sacrifice the obviously superior stats and -interval, just to use a cool looking bow. Am i the only archer that feels this way? Because personally i prefer bows over crossbows, and dislike slingshots a lot due to the way they look. So basically, do you think that it is worth the loss of stats, just for the look of a awesome glowing bow b:surrender
Well... ignoring the other two posts because I can, and they are trolling, I'll answer this.
I had a TT70 Crossbow, don't remember which. I had a Wind and the Clouds. I also had a Unicorn. Wind and Clouds hit really fast, it did more damage over time than the other two. Unicorn had good accuracy buff, and the crossbow could oneshot some mobs for grinding or whatever.
Basically, I preferred Unicorn. I looked cool, I could use it on my Sin, mine came out 2 sockets, and all around, it was a pretty darn good bow. It refined to +4 for me pretty easily (back then), so even compared to my xbow, it did more damage with a single shot than the xbow. Damage over time, it was about even or slightly ahead of the Wind and Clouds, but only from the refine.
If you can get either at the same refine, and don't want both, then I don't know what to tell you. I see archers in that level range with either, and don't think they're fail. I just had all three weapon types so I could use up massive heaps of old ammo I had accumulated (never sell ammo), and cause I wanted to make more of the later on Xbox.
Currently using heaven shatterer, which I'm debating on changing for R8 bow when I hit 100. I may go for a Nirvana bow, they look just fantastic, can get advanced purge, +range, and -interval, and I'd take one with any combination of those stats. R9 is too expensive, R8 doesn't have purge.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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If you're actually going to quest/grind or want the best DPS for your level, W&C is the best. I thought this was hashed out in '08. At level, if you're statted correctly, mobs shouldn't even hit you.
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Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »If you're actually going to quest/grind or want the best DPS for your level, W&C is the best. I thought this was hashed out in '08. At level, if you're statted correctly, mobs shouldn't even hit you.
b:sweat
If you have a -int tome, Wraithgate TM cape, and blood moon wrists, yeah W&C makes a bit more of a dent than Unicorn.
But the difference... Isn't that big.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »If you have a -int tome, Wraithgate TM cape, and blood moon wrists, yeah W&C makes a bit more of a dent than Unicorn.
But the difference... Isn't that big.
Even without interval W&C is far better than Unicorn if you're grinding. Solarslayer is even better than Unicorn.
If all you're going to do is buy heads, it doesn't matter.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
_Raiton_ - Harshlands wrote: »I have a mold for the "wind and the clouds" legendary slingshot, which with the minus interval seems to be the most practical weapon for around its level. But i cant help but feel i would sacrifice the obviously superior stats and -interval, just to use a cool looking bow. Am i the only archer that feels this way? Because personally i prefer bows over crossbows, and dislike slingshots a lot due to the way they look. So basically, do you think that it is worth the loss of stats, just for the look of a awesome glowing bow b:surrender
I skipped W&Cs because the idea of slingshots reminds me more of Dennis the Menace than an archer. There's nothing wrong with prioritizing the enjoyment of your character above numerical stats. Don't worry too much about it though, the good end game weapons are all bows.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I've meet Archers that REFUSE to use slingshots,since they look lame
"Im an archer I only use bows"
I don't care either way.The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
your game is ****, your players are morons, and you just suck at life all of you noobs on this game. This game is **** and guild wars 2 and diablo 3 will own this **** game. You will lose 50% players when these two games come out and your **** game will die.
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Unicorn: 4,346 damage/second
Wind and the Clouds: 4,819 damage/second
So W&C here does 473 more damage/second, or ~11% more.
Unicorn does have a bit more DPH, but not enough to make a real difference: even if you land maximum damage and crit, it won't even count for half a hit.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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And that isn't awesome HOW?!?Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »I skipped W&Cs because the idea of slingshots reminds me more of Dennis the Menace than an archer.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Nah I felt the same way when I sharded my TT90. The chest had 2 Perfect Garnets, but all the other pieces were flawless citrines or aroundabouts that tier. So i resharded all the gear for immac garnets to get the full red glow and take advantage of pdef. Partially for the pdef, but mostly so my gear didnt have different auras....
Big mistake, didn't realise how long it would take to get money for the tt99 gold and now im stuck with really low hp for a 101 barb.
13.5k fully buffed![:\](https://forum.arcgames.com/pwi/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
Saddens me, I see barbs around my level and just under, with gear similar to mine but sharded for hp.. and what do they get? around 16k? dafuq, i made a big mistake b:sweat[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »Nah I felt the same way when I sharded my TT90. The chest had 2 Perfect Garnets, but all the other pieces were flawless citrines or aroundabouts that tier. So i resharded all the gear for immac garnets to get the full red glow and take advantage of pdef. Partially for the pdef, but mostly so my gear didnt have different auras....
Big mistake, didn't realise how long it would take to get money for the tt99 gold and now im stuck with really low hp for a 101 barb.
13.5k fully buffed
Saddens me, I see barbs around my level and just under, with gear similar to mine but sharded for hp.. and what do they get? around 16k? dafuq, i made a big mistake b:sweat
garnets in HA? *wristslap*0 -
Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »Nah I felt the same way when I sharded my TT90. The chest had 2 Perfect Garnets, but all the other pieces were flawless citrines or aroundabouts that tier. So i resharded all the gear for immac garnets to get the full red glow and take advantage of pdef. Partially for the pdef, but mostly so my gear didnt have different auras....
Big mistake, didn't realise how long it would take to get money for the tt99 gold and now im stuck with really low hp for a 101 barb.
13.5k fully buffed
Saddens me, I see barbs around my level and just under, with gear similar to mine but sharded for hp.. and what do they get? around 16k? dafuq, i made a big mistake b:sweat
My barb broke into the 20k range around level 90. Then at level 92, I restated for a pure Str axe -int build. At 95, I've got 460 or so Str, and 16k HP. Being demon, I can zerk crit up to 80k on mobs in BH79/89, my MDef is higher than my Sin's, and I can switch to a different axe for extra Pdef (at the cost of losing Zerk axe damage, oh well). Since I share my gear between Barb and BM, my Barb will be getting the G15 Nirvana axes I'm planning on making soon, aiming for SS or GoF.Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »I skipped W&Cs because the idea of slingshots reminds me more of Dennis the Menace than an archer. There's nothing wrong with prioritizing the enjoyment of your character above numerical stats. Don't worry too much about it though, the good end game weapons are all bows.
I like Slingshots. I still have my W&C, resharded it for metal damage. Hardly use it anymore though.
101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »So i resharded all the gear for immac garnets
I lol'd especially hard when I read that. As if you couldn't be more fail the first time... just brilliant.
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Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »Nah I felt the same way when I sharded my TT90. The chest had 2 Perfect Garnets, but all the other pieces were flawless citrines or aroundabouts that tier. So i resharded all the gear for immac garnets to get the full red glow and take advantage of pdef. Partially for the pdef, but mostly so my gear didnt have different auras....
Big mistake, didn't realise how long it would take to get money for the tt99 gold and now im stuck with really low hp for a 101 barb.
13.5k fully buffed
Saddens me, I see barbs around my level and just under, with gear similar to mine but sharded for hp.. and what do they get? around 16k? dafuq, i made a big mistake b:sweat
barbs could get 10k hp at lv 6x...I hope you meant human form lolElena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
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stronk troll is stronk what is this.........0
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Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »No troll... 1. no reasonable archer wants to purposely take agro at that lvl... 2. Unicorn works just as well at 70-80... b:cute
As a former medieval reenactor, ex-SCA and such, I have a minor quibble with the odd weapon styles, like General Summer's Atomic Chainsaw, or the Wayne Industries Bat-Glaive... which if you're wondering, I carry the Radioactive Tahitian Rug Beater, Midnight Black... I can ignore the look of something if I must when I can btchslap something and it drops dead at my feet. But the clothes, some are just gag-me-with-a-spoon Fugly. Seriously, not just anime, but really bad anime styles. I'd need a whole roll of tape to stay in some of those outfits.0 -
Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »I skipped W&Cs because the idea of slingshots reminds me more of Dennis the Menace than an archer. There's nothing wrong with prioritizing the enjoyment of your character above numerical stats. Don't worry too much about it though, the good end game weapons are all bows.
This. So much XD
I personally dislike dual blades/swords. So I prefer using a single blade/sword over duals, even if it means less damage ^^
Just pick whatever you like!
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Katerena - Sanctuary wrote: »As a former medieval reenactor, ex-SCA and such, I have a minor quibble with the odd weapon styles, like General Summer's Atomic Chainsaw, or the Wayne Industries Bat-Glaive... which if you're wondering, I carry the Radioactive Tahitian Rug Beater, Midnight Black... I can ignore the look of something if I must when I can btchslap something and it drops dead at my feet. But the clothes, some are just gag-me-with-a-spoon Fugly. Seriously, not just anime, but really bad anime styles. I'd need a whole roll of tape to stay in some of those outfits.
This explains the weird mobs and monsters, it's all from radiation from irresponsible Venos and their nuclear weapons! *Rageface!*101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »I skipped W&Cs because the idea of slingshots reminds me more of Dennis the Menace than an archer. There's nothing wrong with prioritizing the enjoyment of your character above numerical stats. Don't worry too much about it though, the good end game weapons are all bows.
+1
I went with Unicorn in the 70s because I love bows. I even went so far as to craft the TT80 gold bow just so that I could keep using a bow.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Katerena - Sanctuary wrote: »As a former medieval reenactor, ex-SCA and such, I have a minor quibble with the odd weapon styles, like General Summer's Atomic Chainsaw, or the Wayne Industries Bat-Glaive... which if you're wondering, I carry the Radioactive Tahitian Rug Beater, Midnight Black... I can ignore the look of something if I must when I can btchslap something and it drops dead at my feet. But the clothes, some are just gag-me-with-a-spoon Fugly. Seriously, not just anime, but really bad anime styles. I'd need a whole roll of tape to stay in some of those outfits.
What is your opinion on the Dragonbow, which I consider the **** off-spring of the Unicorn and the Klingon melee weapon.0 -
I got my Nirvana bow because it's sexy.
I've seen Archers who have 1st cast Nirvana bow (TT version) at like +3~4 even though they could have spent the money on higher refined r8 instead to be more useful. I can get where they were going with it.0 -
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Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »+1
I went with Unicorn in the 70s because I love bows. I even went so far as to craft the TT80 gold bow just so that I could keep using a bow.
Eh heh... Some Archers use Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher all the way into the 90's, or all the way to 100.
CH:S is a good bow, has -int, good damage, and looks pretty.
I still have mine, even.
Got LUCKY and got a 2 socket one... 101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0
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