Gear progression

elvenshooter

Getting hit pretty hard and its obvious to me,
I'm still using the free 20 day(?) beginning gear, that one in the shiny golden chest.

The 2 characters are now around level 30 and I saw that I can get rank 1 gear.
Doesn't compare to the beginner gear so I resold them.

We can handle ourselves for now but we're spamming those potions like crazy.

Just to be ready for the future, what are the recommended gear to use while I level?

1-59, I have no clue what to use.
60 is twilight temple I believe?
70 TT again and beyond that I have no clue.


Help please and thanks b:victory

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Should have kept the rank gear if you bought it, yes it doesn't have the yummy set bonus of the Elder Blessing gears, but the top at least is better than anything else you can get at that level and isn't time limited.

You can get along fine 1-69 with just good mob drop and quest reward gear. If you have some coin saved up, you can check AH and catshops for cheap mold and 3* gear. 70 is where you can first get TT armor (TT60 is just weapons) and that's usually your best choice through 99, though there are some mold and rank gears that are preferred. (Sleeves of the sea captain for arcanes at 77+ for instance, or the level 60 rank tops and bracers of blood moon for archers/assassins.)

Level 30 and spamming pots like crazy? Let me guess, you're both assassins? You need some good herb, man, go out and farm herbs to make life powder, it will make your questing much easier (and cheaper.)

elvenshooter

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Should have kept the rank gear if you bought it, yes it doesn't have the yummy set bonus of the Elder Blessing gears, but the top at least is better than anything else you can get at that level and isn't time limited.

You can get along fine 1-69 with just good mob drop and quest reward gear. If you have some coin saved up, you can check AH and catshops for cheap mold and 3* gear. 70 is where you can first get TT armor (TT60 is just weapons) and that's usually your best choice through 99, though there are some mold and rank gears that are preferred. (Sleeves of the sea captain for arcanes at 77+ for instance, or the level 60 rank tops and bracers of blood moon for archers/assassins.)

Level 30 and spamming pots like crazy? Let me guess, you're both assassins? You need some good herb, man, go out and farm herbs to make life powder, it will make your questing much easier (and cheaper.)

A quick comparison of the top and it seems like the elder blessing gear + set bonus was still a bit better though I might've overlooked it.

Oh yeah lol, TT60 was just weapon and I'll stick with twilight gear + molds until I can afford high tier rank gear. Not completely sure what warsong and frostcover gear is compared to twilight but so far ingame and forums hasn't suggested it yet.
TT is the smartest way to go, right?

Yeah the spamming is a bit bad lol.
And half right, assassin and cleric duo.
We're kinda speed questing so we can join a faction and start doing those squad instances/territory wars with others. Heard about hypers and not interested.

I'm going pure dex and cleric is going pure magic, we knew we would be squishy but now 1 mob(skill + regular attack until dead) takes almost half health per mob.
We fight close by but fight seperate mobs for quick questing.

I'm using health pots almost every mob, and cleric is just draining the mana pots since all they do is skill spam/heal spam.
Maybe this is normal? It was wrong of me to do comparisons to other mmos I've played, its just using potions and healing items is pretty often in PW.

Thanks for the tips about the herbs and your help with gear b:thanks

sangodoc

FYI - You can find information about gear at the Perfect World Database site, so you can decide what gear is the best for your level.

Make sure the gear you pick actually exists in the game, because there are some items listed there which are in the game's database, but there is no way to obtain them.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Focus and jade powders will help the cleric's pot budget. If (s)he doesn't have apothecary level 2 to make those yet, make life powders for the assassin until (s)he has the skill bar full.

elvenshooter

@Sangodoc - Ahhh thank you for the link. Google searches are almost always showing up empty with nothing related. Definitely going to bookmark

@Mayfly - Gotcha, i'll be sure to begin leveling up apothecary and make use of those potions.

Thank you both for your help

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

tt and molds can be inferior to 2/3* with good stats and also way more expensive.
check AH often and if you find a good piece grab it.

for arcane armors:
tt70 is one of the most crappy gear ever imho.
tt80 green is a bit better but pants and boots are still quite fail.
tt80 gold isnt really worth the money.

tt90 pants are awesome. just...awesome.

so yeah, stick to molds/2/3* with good adds.
nice adds is basically what you need to improve your defenses/attack
generally with a nice weapon your attack (/heals) will be good enough so you might want to focus more on defense: pdef, hp
-chan is good to have for clerics but often is quite expensive.

regarding mana: besides powders, getting a glass of water every now and then while your char is meditating keeps you hydrated and fills your char's mana :b

elvenshooter

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

tt and molds can be inferior to 2/3* with good stats and also way more expensive.
check AH often and if you find a good piece grab it.

for arcane armors:
tt70 is one of the most crappy gear ever imho.
tt80 green is a bit better but pants and boots are still quite fail.
tt80 gold isnt really worth the money.

tt90 pants are awesome. just...awesome.

so yeah, stick to molds/2/3* with good adds.
nice adds is basically what you need to improve your defenses/attack
generally with a nice weapon your attack (/heals) will be good enough so you might want to focus more on defense: pdef, hp
-chan is good to have for clerics but often is quite expensive.

regarding mana: besides powders, getting a glass of water every now and then while your char is meditating keeps you hydrated and fills your char's mana :b

Ahhh, now that you mentioned it, you're right.
Some gold mold I've been looking at earlier has very nice stats.
I'm guessing now that TT is the cheap alternative.

Hahaha about that last one, thats a great tip. I haven't been drinking enough water lately and its a perfect, cheap way for recovery and better use of my time b:chuckle

Thanks for your time and help

Sereneai - Dreamweaver

elvenshooter wrote: »

Yeah the spamming is a bit bad lol.
And half right, assassin and cleric duo.
We're kinda speed questing so we can join a faction and start doing those squad instances/territory wars with others. Heard about hypers and not interested.
I'm going pure dex and cleric is going pure magic, we knew we would be squishy but now 1 mob(skill + regular attack until dead) takes almost half health per mob.
We fight close by but fight seperate mobs for quick questing.

I'm using health pots almost every mob, and cleric is just draining the mana pots since all they do is skill spam/heal spam.
Maybe this is normal? It was wrong of me to do comparisons to other mmos I've played, its just using potions and healing items is pretty often in PW.

I would consider joining a faction sooner rather than later, as it gives you more people to play with, as well as a possible source of squads for the BH dailies 40+...which you two can NOT duo b:chuckle as well as higher levels to help with bosses. If you're on Dreamweaver, feel free to give me a holler in game. b:cute


FWIW, as an assassin, I can say with certainty that when you hit 59 and get your [spark burst+] skill, you will use less HP pots. This is because you'll do more damage, meaning that A) they don't have as much time to beat on you, since they die faster, and bloodpaint helps more. Its still not a total self heal at that point, but its still helpful.

For a cleric, more planning=less mana. Actually, that applies to every class, really.


Also, it sounds like you and your duo buddy are basically soloing together rather than working as a real duo team. It sounds like right now, it goes like:

Sin attacks mob A, pots to survive, while Cleric attacks mob B, spam heals/attacks to survive.

This is fast to kill mobs, MAYBE, but it is also very expensive. Try instead something like:

1) Sin attacks mob A
2) Cleric casts [Ironheart Blessing] on sin 1-2 times (situational, depends on gear/mob/etc, gotta figure out the minimum that works), then attacks MOB A till dead.
3) Cleric tops off Sin's HP, if needed. (ie. if hes half dead, heal him. if hes just down a few HP, don't worry about it, as you're about to heal him when he hits the next one anyway. you just don't want a dead fishie, they smell)
4) repeat on mob B

It may sound like it's way slower, but in reality you don't lose much time since both are attacking the same mob, meaning it dies twice as fast. i will admit it is slightly slower, but the REAL advantage of this is.....

1) The sin uses almost no HP pots, since the cleric is taking care of that.
2) The cleric gets hit rarely, unless he/she is taking aggro (a risk at your level), in which case he/she can just hold back to avoid it.
A) The cleric rarely has to heal him/herself, possibly saving mana.
Cleric rarely, if ever, needs to use HP pots.
C) Since the cleric isn't trying to attack, heal, and tank all at once in solo survival mode, he/she can plan out attacks/heals to conserve mana.
3) The overall risk of death goes down.
4) The overall cost goes down
5) ???
6) Profit! b:avoid


I spent a good amount of time doing something similar with a wizard in my 60s-low 80s, and wizzies have much less effective heals. b:shocked

elvenshooter

Sereneai - Dreamweaver wrote: »

We'll definitely find a faction as soon as we can. Theres not a lot of interaction going on with others ingame where we quest so it would be great to be in a nice faction soon.
I heard of BH before... bounty hunter right? Sounds really fun and a change of pace from questing/grinding.
We did our FB19 together and thought we can do anything together b:laugh
Since the pulls usually have 3 mobs per and boss room has a huge pull, it was kinda intense but got through it, haha.

You're completely right. After duo-ing our FBs together instead of going solo is really so much faster, and better for our budget b:chuckle

We're relying on each other more than to speed level. Profit indeed

Thanks a lot for your help and changing our mindset.

Yes we both play on the Dreamweaver server o:
Thanks again for your assistance to help us too, we'll remember to bother you one day when we can start doing some BH!

Sereneai - Dreamweaver

elvenshooter wrote: »

I heard of BH before... bounty hunter right? Sounds really fun and a change of pace from questing/grinding.

yep, Bounty Hunter. Basically, it gives you a quest to kill bosses in a lower FB instance (40-49 is "BH29", ie FB29 instance, 50-59 is "BH39," etc,) which gives you good EXP when you turn it in, and can be taken 3 times per day. the hardest classes to find at the lower ones are a cleric and a tank....and you got the former taken care of higher levels will sometimes help out of boredom/amusement as well.

elvenshooter wrote: »

We did our FB19 together and thought we can do anything together b:laugh
Since the pulls usually have 3 mobs per and boss room has a huge pull, it was kinda intense but got through it, haha.

GJ b:victory

elvenshooter wrote: »

We're relying on each other more than to speed level. Profit indeed
Thanks a lot for your help and changing our mindset.
Yes we both play on the Dreamweaver server o:
Thanks again for your assistance to help us too, we'll remember to bother you one day when we can start doing some BH!

^^ usually on evening>night EST