What are blademasters good for now?

mkl0011

I'm a lvl 70 bm and one thing i noticed is that most of the time, i'm not needed in any squad, i'm just there as back up and damage support . And it's not just me, it seems the only thing bm's are truly good for is their single def buff and heaven's flame. I mean, we only have one buff, and heaven's flame is good,but it only last 6 secs unless you have demon ,so it's not like it's really necessary, it just speeds things up. Before bm's were the subtanks but now seekers are even better tanks than bm's at higher levels. So i was just wondering if there were any good(and i mean good, like how barbs are great tanks and psychics DD,) reasons for having a BM in a squad besides The single buff and HF. ( and no a "sub-subtank" is not a good reason to me)

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Get to 95+.

You'll notice how barbs have turned into nothing but pullers and how it's usually the BM who is tanking because the barb cannot hold aggro and the sin doesn't have enough life.

You'll also notice that whenever you use HF, the HP of any boss tends to drop significantly if you time it properly.

If I hadn't gone for Sin, I would've picked BM. In fact, originally I was considering between BM and Archer, but went Archer. Now I have bound LA endgame gear so going BM is kinda redundant, not to mention not very cost effective.

MageMERC - Harshlands

BM's are still a primary char for fc so they must be good for something. I think the stuns are wanted as well.

edit - ninja'd you Liveena

Liveena - Heavens Tear

Don't forget the ability of BM to aoe stun, which sometimes gives enough times for barb to regain agro or clerics to heal.

XFirestormX - Heavens Tear

i play a 101 bm on heaven's tear server, i'm 4.0 sage with sage bell, sage bell is one of the best defense buffs in the game, usually in TT i am the one tanking, though if sins have good enough gears they will do a ton more damage then us, but we do have more defense, get 99+ with aps gears and find out how you'll build your bm and how to play it even better, just practice and use it a lot, experience in game is what counts

bearishidonteven

they still have long pencils

FayHumming - Dreamweaver

b:bye

Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary

When im on my alts doing fcc, i dont feel safe when theres no bm.

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

Making sandwiches for Sins. b:bye

Michael_Dark - Lost City

What are blademasters good for now?

Umm....

TW?

Rebirth?


Sure, you can solo a lot of stuff but if you want a solo class, roll a sin. You'll get stuff done way faster at end-game.

tweakz

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Get to 95+.

You'll notice how barbs have turned into nothing but pullers and how it's usually the BM who is tanking because the barb cannot hold aggro and the sin doesn't have enough life.

I play an Assassin and Barb. An Assassin might get aggro, but it benefits immensely from Barb's HP buff, Dmg buff, Frighten, and Alacrity. In my experience, it's my Assassin tanking: not a BM.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Get to 95+.

You'll notice how barbs have turned into nothing but pullers and how it's usually the BM who is tanking because the barb cannot hold aggro and the sin doesn't have enough life.

You'll also notice that whenever you use HF, the HP of any boss tends to drop significantly if you time it properly.

If I hadn't gone for Sin, I would've picked BM. In fact, originally I was considering between BM and Archer, but went Archer. Now I have bound LA endgame gear so going BM is kinda redundant, not to mention not very cost effective.

Eh. Sorta true...

My 93 Barb will hold aggro on BM's up to 3.33 APS at low refines. Sins, 2.86 APS at low refines. That is sparked APS.

My BM, however, can tank just fine, 4.0 base, 5.0 sparked.

And my Sin has 9,980 HP unbuffed, and is 4.0 APS base, 4.0 sparked, and thus, can tank just fine.

I went with a non-aps DD build for my Barb. Pure STR demon. I can DD in tiger form, and it helps with aggro as well. Toss in Zerk axes, and it helps. I'm hoping some Nirvana axes at +10 will help me hold aggro on 3.33 BM's with +10 refines, but I'm not going to hold my breath or cry over it if not. I have a +10 GV for my Archer, and a +10 deicide for my BM (I'll be switching BM to a Rank 8 recast fist eventually) if I want to do APS.

BM is, funny enough, a PVP build with some Vit, as well as 200 Dex and whatever was left in Str. It's funny because I absolutely HATE doing PVP on my BM, it drives me crazy and... TBH, I suck at it. >_> I can do TW just fine on my Barb, Archer, Sin, even Veno (my veno is 86), but my BM just gets ***** in TW.

And my Sin is a pure Dex Vit shard decent refine Sage build. +10 G13 nirvana daggers. Pretty standard stuff. Not gonna do second cast Rank 8 or Nirvana G15 (other than pants), except for stuff I might make for my Archer. I find I like PVE on Sin, but TW can be fun too. I'd prefer Archer or Barb over Sin most of the time.

Yusiong - Lost City

It may not seem like you are wanted in squads now but give it some time. BM's are always wanted at higher lvl's and we are still a great support class if you know how to play your BM really well.