Pack sale pleassee

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Suggestion Box
Seriously....
Tokens are far too much.
Do another sale where they were like 33 silver again!
That was BOMB. 10-11k Tokensssb:dirty
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Actually no.

    If they did a 100 packs for 22 Gold sale, which is the lowest they've gone so far, that wouldn't change much. The token merchants have been buying tokens for 13-14k for the past few weeks, so a good lot of them have stacks of thousands if not full 9999 stacks bought at 13-14k, so they'd be very unwilling to sell tokens for 10-11k.

    Unless of course said sale lasted for like a month.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    probably not till next week no Maint. this week

    besides this is supposed to be in the suggestion box and

    in my experience they won't see this post anyway.

    but i feel your pain on the tokens.
    19k Hp and rising my goal is 20k unbuffed (would love 25k )
  • Lunnark - Sanctuary
    Lunnark - Sanctuary Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Actually no.

    If they did a 100 packs for 22 Gold sale, which is the lowest they've gone so far, that wouldn't change much. The token merchants have been buying tokens for 13-14k for the past few weeks, so a good lot of them have stacks of thousands if not full 9999 stacks bought at 13-14k, so they'd be very unwilling to sell tokens for 10-11k.

    Unless of course said sale lasted for like a month.

    So? Haven't you heard of merchants loosing money?
    It is common sense that tokens are a highly volatile item of merchanting between 2 sales, so these merchants have to deal with the risk.

    I know you do a lot of merchanting yourself, so I suppose you realize that the fact they have stacks of tokens bought for 13k+ will not keep them from dropping if the a pack sale will be in CS.
    I am not saying tokens will be 10k in the next day, nor that they won't go up to 14k+ once the sale will end (the shorter the sale, the faster they will go back up).
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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    probably not till next week no Maint. this week

    besides this is supposed to be in the suggestion box and

    in my experience they won't see this post anyway.

    but i feel your pain on the tokens.

    No maint does not mean no sales.

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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    probably not till next week no Maint. this week

    besides this is supposed to be in the suggestion box and

    in my experience they won't see this post anyway.

    but i feel your pain on the tokens.

    Sales aren't tied to maintenance schedules.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Is an extra 30%-40% that much of an impact? What do you spend tokens on? How many tokens do you go through a week?
  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is an extra 30%-40% that much of an impact? What do you spend tokens on? How many tokens do you go through a week?

    tsk tsk tsk.

    Token prices are EVERYTHING
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No maint does not mean no sales.

    Derrrppp

    usually does

    Derrrppp
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    :--)


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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The ones buying for 13k are also the one selling for 14k- so I highly doubt they they have to many stacks piled up that they couldn't afford to take a minimal loss- that is if they don't simply hoard them till after sales are done.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is an extra 30%-40% that much of an impact? What do you spend tokens on? How many tokens do you go through a week?

    Well, paying 14,500 per Token instead of 10,000 each when I want 17,520 for Pan Gu, Creator means I'd have to pay an additional 78,840,000 for the tome.

    Personally I don't really mind. If they give out a 100 pack for 22 Gold sale, I'll still be making ridiculous profits.
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    just throwing something in, one of my faction mates got 5 tokens from a Lucigold Chest.

    Probably a random thing but maybe this is a sign of tokens being obtainable from other

    sources. only time will tell.

    Once PWI finds another must have money maker i'm sure they'll

    give in to what "we the people" want and make it to were people can get tokens

    for such things as skill books in a non Zen way. (maybe ?!?)
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    just throwing something in, one of my faction mates got 5 tokens from a Lucigold Chest.

    Probably a random thing but maybe this is a sign of tokens being obtainable from other

    sources. only time will tell.

    Once PWI finds another must have money maker i'm sure they'll

    give in to what "we the people" want and make it to were people can get tokens

    for such things as skill books in a non Zen way. (maybe ?!?)

    You can also get Best luck tokens and various other items known to be in packs, but the odds are much lower.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Actually no.

    If they did a 100 packs for 22 Gold sale, which is the lowest they've gone so far, that wouldn't change much. The token merchants have been buying tokens for 13-14k for the past few weeks, so a good lot of them have stacks of thousands if not full 9999 stacks bought at 13-14k, so they'd be very unwilling to sell tokens for 10-11k.

    Unless of course said sale lasted for like a month.

    no one cares about merchants all they do is take advantage by rising price above the real marketprice...b:shutup
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  • MiniST - Sanctuary
    MiniST - Sanctuary Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    i like to watch people that horde gold cringe week after week of no pack sale.b:laugh keep this up pwi, eventually they will break and gold will drop below 1mil b:cute no major pack sale till xmas sounds good b:thanks
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Nobody's keeping anyone from bypassing the middleman and buying gold themselves...
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  • Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide Posts: 934 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously....
    Tokens are far too much.
    Do another sale where they were like 33 silver again!
    That was BOMB. 10-11k Tokensssb:dirty

    lol, I knew this would happen soon.

    First people QQ about the price of gold due to pack sales.


    Now they QQ about the price of tokens due to a lack decent of pack sales.


    1.8mill per gold doesn't seem so bad anymore does it?
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    no one cares about merchants all they do is take advantage by rising price above the real marketprice...b:shutup

    Not necessarily. Here's an example of what I do:
    I bought gold at, say, 1,420,000. Meaning each pack cost me 637,296 coins, but only because I am able to buy the 100 set bundle. I sell them at 660,000 coins. Now, if someone were to want to buy only 1 pack, they could either buy mine for 660,000 or buy 1 pack from the boutique at 50 silver. That 50 silver would cost them 724,200, thus they'd end up paying 64,200 coins more for the same item.

    In fact, only the 50 set would be cheaper than my 660,000 each. And that is only because I'm charging based on what sells well: no reason to go lower if there is no competition and the sales are fast.
    MiniST - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i like to watch people that horde gold cringe week after week of no pack sale.b:laugh keep this up pwi, eventually they will break and gold will drop below 1mil b:cute no major pack sale till xmas sounds good b:thanks

    No it won't.

    For example, during the 2x week, I more than doubled my funds. During this crappier week, I only made about 9 gold profit over the week.
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  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Opening up the boutique, I see that lucky coral packs are on sale ....
    What kind of fool pays for a free game.
  • MiniST - Sanctuary
    MiniST - Sanctuary Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Not necessarily. Here's an example of what I do:
    I bought gold at, say, 1,420,000. Meaning each pack cost me 637,296 coins, but only because I am able to buy the 100 set bundle. I sell them at 660,000 coins. Now, if someone were to want to buy only 1 pack, they could either buy mine for 660,000 or buy 1 pack from the boutique at 50 silver. That 50 silver would cost them 724,200, thus they'd end up paying 64,200 coins more for the same item.

    In fact, only the 50 set would be cheaper than my 660,000 each. And that is only because I'm charging based on what sells well: no reason to go lower if there is no competition and the sales are fast.



    No it won't.

    For example, during the 2x week, I more than doubled my funds. During this crappier week, I only made about 9 gold profit over the week.

    yeah, it will. We are still feeling the effects of the month long 2x and 22gold for 100 pack sale. The packs are not worth 680k. Eventually people will figure it out. Also the people who anticipating gold hitting 2m again will eventually give in to cut losses. This will happen only if no major pack sale occurs for a long time like xmas.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    tsk tsk tsk.

    Token prices are EVERYTHING

    Could you perhaps clarify this?

    I saw one example about Pan Gu's tome, which is a one-time thing anyways. Potions, Do-All cards, Wines, and maybe hypers and teleacoustics are about the only things I can think of which are used frequently, and unless you really go through a ton of those, I don't see 14k token prices really hurting that much.
  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Could you perhaps clarify this?

    I saw one example about Pan Gu's tome, which is a one-time thing anyways. Potions, Do-All cards, Wines, and maybe hypers and teleacoustics are about the only things I can think of which are used frequently, and unless you really go through a ton of those, I don't see 14k token prices really hurting that much.

    Well, for people that have a bit less money and make immaculates from flawlesses from tokens. There's a difference of 280k per immaculate between tokens at 10 or 14k ?
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  • Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide Posts: 934 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Could you perhaps clarify this?

    I saw one example about Pan Gu's tome, which is a one-time thing anyways. Potions, Do-All cards, Wines, and maybe hypers and teleacoustics are about the only things I can think of which are used frequently, and unless you really go through a ton of those, I don't see 14k token prices really hurting that much.

    Hypers
    Herbs
    Crabs
    Veno Food
    Oracles
    Shards
    Demon/Sage Skill Books
    Tele's
    Do-All's
    Uncanny Ore for ring engravings
    Wine
    Socket Stones



    Maybe some more that I forgot.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Hypers
    Herbs
    Crabs
    Veno Food
    Oracles
    Shards
    Demon/Sage Skill Books
    Tele's
    Do-All's
    Uncanny Ore for ring engravings
    Wine
    Socket Stones

    Not all of those are repeated consumables.

    I guess I just don't use tokens as much as everyone else on the server, apparently.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Not all of those are repeated consumables.

    I guess I just don't use tokens as much as everyone else on the server, apparently.

    Apparently indeed. It seems obvious to me that tokens are the lifeblood of the non-csing casual player.
  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Apparently indeed. It seems obvious to me that tokens are the lifeblood of the non-csing casual player.

    Indeed.
    They have not done a pack sale like that for a while...
    Probably because they know merchants will hella profit off it lol.
    But then again so would PWE....

    Is their marketing team a bunch of complete idiots?
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  • Aowenn - Archosaur
    Aowenn - Archosaur Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Well i just brought 700 packs in total & got 1 citrine gem plus an Aurora bird ride

    The pack ratio has now hit rock bottom. 12 months ago, even in that 'sales' you would get at least some sort of item within 100 packs.

    So DON'T buy packs, just buy up the tokens, packs aint worth it
  • Semis_Inferi - Archosaur
    Semis_Inferi - Archosaur Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    you think you got it bad,i spawned somewhere around 3522 packs and got various items exluding the one i actually wanted b:shockedb:shocked
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Aowenn - Archosaur wrote: »
    Well i just brought 700 packs in total & got 1 citrine gem plus an Aurora bird ride

    The pack ratio has now hit rock bottom. 12 months ago, even in that 'sales' you would get at least some sort of item within 100 packs.

    So DON'T buy packs, just buy up the tokens, packs aint worth it

    That's because the Tempest Pack itself is ****. It yield out more tokens than any other pack and it has less chance for a Best Luck Token than any pack.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Apparently indeed. It seems obvious to me that tokens are the lifeblood of the non-csing casual player.

    Well, I am entirely free-to-play, but I do believe my merchanting skills are mediocre.

    Maybe because I only have 2 characters?


    Well, anyways, I never quite understood why token prices are so *low*. 10k is the minimum, not a maximum, but the price seems to always hover there when packs are on a severe sale.

    I honestly believe that token prices would be at least 20k, considering just how useful they are. And no, I don't merchant tokens, so I'm not biased or anything. Just seems weird something so useful is so cheap.

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