Morai armor and weapons. Any point in them ?

klystron

Ok so we have new armor but the base specs are lower than the equivalent TT armor same goes for weapons. Ok armor has warding a percentage increase in def and weapon slaying a percentage increase in attack. but slaying and warding have no affect against players so both weapon and armor are useless against a player who decides to pk you.So what you supposed to do when someone tries to pk you say "wait while i change armor" i think not. While the new gear might be fine on PvE servers its pretty much useless on PvP servers unless your always in SZ plus it cost between 5 and 10 mill per piece of gear. Seems to me this has not been thought out properly.

izzyhalsall

First of all, please look at the ACTUAL g15 armour.
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33947
That is the gear that costs money.
Refine wise, and stat wise, its a reasonable PvE version of R8.

Secondly, the majority of new skills are PvP, but do you see any of the PvE servers (there are more of these then PvP servers btw...) complaining they dont get cool new skills?

Finally, this gear gives an impressive damage PvE, which is how its designed. All the people that run caster NV, or frost or Bh100 would benefit more from using
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33533 g15 wizard wep
than
http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/12647 r8 wizard wep.

EDIT.
g15 PvE max damage - 1016 with (a bit below) +60% extra damage (i know slayer +45 gives +39% damage). So call it 1016 x 1.50 (seems fair?). = 1524 damage against mobs (and 1016 damage against players)
with +12 it gives ( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 = 2986.5.

r8 max damage = 1481 (ignoring the +130 max damage because we ignored the idea that the PvE wep could have +max damage stats).
r8 +12 = 1481+975 = 2456.

ALSO! Slayer is not ADDED to attack level, 30 slayer and 30 atk doesnt equal +60% damage. They are multiplied. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 (+69% damage)
So r8+12 and jones blessing gives = 2456 * 1.3 = 3192.8

BUT HERES THE FUN THING!
g15 PvE +12, and jones. becomes
( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 * 1.3 = 3882.45.
If you want to PvP with this weapon, expect its attack to be (1016+975) * 1.3 = 2588.3

Agorey - Harshlands

plz tell me... why go for pve gear on a pvp server?

John_Smith - Harshlands

Because some of us do both.

I know I'm interested in at least some of the available kit. Specifically daggers for my sin since I don't PvP on her.

Eoria - Harshlands

Agorey - Harshlands wrote: »

plz tell me... why go for pve gear on a pvp server?

Because it looks pretty!

Longknife - Harshlands

izzyhalsall wrote: »

First of all, please look at the ACTUAL g15 armour.
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33947
That is the gear that costs money.
Refine wise, and stat wise, its a reasonable PvE version of R8.

Secondly, the majority of new skills are PvP, but do you see any of the PvE servers (there are more of these then PvP servers btw...) complaining they dont get cool new skills?

Finally, this gear gives an impressive damage PvE, which is how its designed. All the people that run caster NV, or frost or Bh100 would benefit more from using
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33533 g15 wizard wep
than
http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/12647 r8 wizard wep.

EDIT.
g15 PvE max damage - 1016 with (a bit below) +60% extra damage (i know slayer +45 gives +39% damage). So call it 1016 x 1.50 (seems fair?). = 1524 damage against mobs (and 1016 damage against players)
with +12 it gives ( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 = 2986.5.

r8 max damage = 1481 (ignoring the +130 max damage because we ignored the idea that the PvE wep could have +max damage stats).
r8 +12 = 1481+975 = 2456.

ALSO! Slayer is not ADDED to attack level, 30 slayer and 30 atk doesnt equal +60% damage. They are multiplied. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 (+69% damage)
So r8+12 and jones blessing gives = 2456 * 1.3 = 3192.8

BUT HERES THE FUN THING!
g15 PvE +12, and jones. becomes
( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 * 1.3 = 3882.45.
If you want to PvP with this weapon, expect its attack to be (1016+975) * 1.3 = 2588.3

So it's trash, is what you're saying?

Agorey - Harshlands

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Because it looks pretty!

yes they do b:thanks i think thats the only reason why i got it.

_Angelina_ - Harshlands

soooo........

wear it instead of fash..? b:question