Fix Secret Passage Now...

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

It's known and will be fixed... Eventualy... Guess they forgot about the small fact that PWIC still has the PK enabled... And then they kinda figured right before releasing the expansion: "Oh **** we forgot the codes for disabeling PK in SP on our version"... Only question that remains is... How long will it take before the proper code will be added to this expansion? And hopefully without breaking anything else...

Sagrath - Heavens Tear

They should bring back the PK arena they had in closed beta.

dfdsfdsa

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

I hope they never fix it. I want idiot QQ'ers like this to ragequit. How many ***** **** ** **** * threads about this **** do we need. Useless ***************.

you scrub, go **** Yourself Kindly. Stop calling people idiots you lame **** , no one cares what you want to read on the forums. it's not about you.

LilWolfy - Heavens Tear

Nahleanna - Sanctuary wrote: »

seams like really hard sense it took 5 months last time or is it the fact that the divs just don't give a **** about the game or the people that play it

it took them over a year to fix the sound in room 27. lols

mcfreakie

Great suggestions on how they could do alternative things... the best option again (after months of the ****) FIX THE THING! Are the GMs that incompetent they cant make the needed changes prior to roll out after getting things from China or are they once again trying to shove PK down our throats like the player base has radically changed since the blunder last year?

Either way... it puts another black eye on PWE and on the game. It was hard enough recruiting during the last blunder but to have this continue over and over each time there is an expansion is getting annoying.

Quilue - Sanctuary

GM = game master...

What do you think GMs do?

Jadsia - Lost City

dfdsfdsa wrote: »

you scrub, go **** Yourself Kindly. Stop calling people idiots you lame **** , no one cares what you want to read on the forums. it's not about you.

So...Now you're going to stalk me in the forums? ROTFL! Life is good....just uninstall and go get one, crybaby.

Sympathi - Archosaur

Secret Passage is fine as it is just needs the level cap back... though i do have this warning for everyone though

Saethos - Raging Tide

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

Secret Passage is fine as it is just needs the level cap back... though i do have this warning for everyone though

I laughed pretty good. And with a level cap, how would we help lowbies?

krittycat

Saethos - Raging Tide wrote: »

I laughed pretty good. And with a level cap, how would we help lowbies?

I believe he means the PK level cap, meaning that players below 30 wouldn't be able to be killed once again.

Sympathi - Archosaur

KrittyCat wrote: »

I believe he means the PK level cap, meaning that players below 30 wouldn't be able to be killed once again.

Ehhh if a 1-29 filter is on there originally and then it was removed that means it can be changed too, maybe a 80+ filter would be best, thats past the low levels cap for questing and 10 levels as well for OHT Silverfrost culti.

what do ya think? It would stop the QQers and allow a public pk zone without consequences making more people pk, rage, buy r9 to pk better, lose charm, buy more. its a win-win PLUS its an instance were the game skills are suppose to work properly I.E. Bramble.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

Ehhh if a 1-29 filter is on there originally and then it was removed that means it can be changed too, maybe a 80+ filter would be best, thats past the low levels cap for questing and 10 levels as well for OHT Silverfrost culti.

what do ya think? It would stop the QQers and allow a public pk zone without consequences making more people pk, rage, buy r9 to pk better, lose charm, buy more. its a win-win PLUS its an instance were the game skills are suppose to work properly I.E. Bramble.

If they are gonna make any real changes to try to accommodate our demands for a proper risk-free pk zone, it would probably be better to get out of SP entirely and just open the arena. It has chi posts, would be flight enabled, and there would be no mobs to break def charms.

Jadsia - Lost City

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

If they are gonna make any real changes to try to accommodate our demands for a proper risk-free pk zone, it would probably be better to get out of SP entirely and just open the arena. It has chi posts, would be flight enabled, and there would be no mobs to break def charms.

I'd rather they have an open TW practice instance where 2 guilds can PvP 80 v 80 all week long.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

I'd rather they have an open TW practice instance where 2 guilds can PvP 80 v 80 all week long.

That sounds nice too, but faaaarrr less likely, not to say that them actually reopening the arena is likely....

FatalFem - Heavens Tear

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

I'd rather they have an open TW practice instance where 2 guilds can PvP 80 v 80 all week long.

I really thought with the implementation of the bases that this was going to happen. Alas it did not. It would make sense to go to war with another faction and be able to fight them any time day or night if for nothing else but practice. If you are on a PVE server not even dueling can prepare you for a true TW.

And tbh, in response to many other posts; if the people running the game at all they'd open up the area of the game that was MEANT for no consequence PVP-the arena.

ShadowsFlame - Raging Tide

the only thing they need to fix is killing people beow lvl30... other than that i dont a see a problem with pk enabled SP... most lowbies that die are from aoes.. same thing will happen in west arch or anyother place.

Anyways i just wanted to LOL @ 80+ people QQing coz they getting pked in SP... Y u no think positive? Think of SP as the only place ur forced to pvp. All the pvp people need to do pve. But the pure pve ones never even stepped out to real pvp... come on it should be balanced right =P


SOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP QQing if u get pked in SP and ur 80+


maybe my post doesnt make any sense b:surrender

XKi - Lost City

Makez ZP zafe sonezzzzzz. b:bye b:dirty b:dirty b:dirty b:dirty

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver

ShadowsFlame - Raging Tide wrote: »

the only thing they need to fix is killing people beow lvl30... other than that i dont a see a problem with pk enabled SP... most lowbies that die are from aoes.. same thing will happen in west arch or anyother place.

Anyways i just wanted to LOL @ 80+ people QQing coz they getting pked in SP... Y u no think positive? Think of SP as the only place ur forced to pvp. All the pvp people need to do pve. But the pure pve ones never even stepped out to real pvp... come on it should be balanced right =P


SOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP QQing if u get pked in SP and ur 80+


maybe my post doesnt make any sense b:surrender

So if you're killing Silver Frost, you should not QQ?

If you're helping friends in SP, you should not QQ?

If you're helping randoms in SP, you hould not QQ?

If you're dual clienting your alt through there, you should not QQ?

If you're a blue name that is doing their best to get by, you should not QQ?

I'm a level 100 celestial sage cleric, that can't even log in right now, but knows the irritation of it all from the last time that it happened, and I'm going to QQ. Lol.

Also, it needs to be made so that blue names cannot be killed there...not just people above level 30. A level 31 cleric still stands no chance vs a r9 sin. Besides, level 40's players receive their bh in SP regularly, and they need the protection just as bad. They're still a one shot to a lot of these guys at their level. I'm a one shot to a lot of these guys, as a level 100, so just protecting people up to that level won't help.

orangejuice0

create an npc outside of SP.
speak too npc:
Enter SP pvp mode.
Enter SP pve mode.
or make a darn pvp arena.lol

CreamyPuff - Dreamweaver

Berserker_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

what are lv 8x doing in sp anywayb:surrender

:O!!! BERSYYYYY *punts* b:pleased

FragiIe - Dreamweaver

ShadowsFlame - Raging Tide wrote: »

the only thing they need to fix is killing people beow lvl30... other than that i dont a see a problem with pk enabled SP... most lowbies that die are from aoes.. same thing will happen in west arch or anyother place.

Anyways i just wanted to LOL @ 80+ people QQing coz they getting pked in SP... Y u no think positive? Think of SP as the only place ur forced to pvp. All the pvp people need to do pve. But the pure pve ones never even stepped out to real pvp... come on it should be balanced right =P


SOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP QQing if u get pked in SP and ur 80+


maybe my post doesnt make any sense b:surrender

for a lot of us playing on a pve server we chose pve because we don't want to pvp and it should never be forced on us no matter what our level is...devs need to put SP back to a no pk zone and leave it alone

Zalm - Dreamweaver

Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »

Im in yur SP killinz all yur low lvls.

your lol cat reference is full of fail

Zalm - Dreamweaver

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

I hope they never fix it. I want idiot QQ'ers like this to ragequit. How many ***** **** ** **** * threads about this **** do we need. Useless ***************.

yeah, and let the 'QQers' ragequit....who are you gonna have to pk? you and the other morons up in SP, cuz the low lvls arent coming in any more...you have no idea of simple physics do you?

Kasira - Harshlands

I don't see the point in making lowbies pkable in SP. The only thing that happens is low levels dont go in there anymore. This game is like real life in the sense that if someone tells you not to go somewhere because you might get killed, you tend not to go there.

StabyMcStabs - Raging Tide

orangejuice0 wrote: »

create an npc outside of SP.
speak too npc:
Enter SP pvp mode.
Enter SP pve mode.
or make a darn pvp arena.lol

They actually did have a PvP enabled arena but they disabled it...go figure.

Shandaar - Dreamweaver

ShadowsFlame - Raging Tide wrote: »

the only thing they need to fix is killing people beow lvl30... other than that i dont a see a problem with pk enabled SP... most lowbies that die are from aoes.. same thing will happen in west arch or anyother place.

Anyways i just wanted to LOL @ 80+ people QQing coz they getting pked in SP... Y u no think positive? Think of SP as the only place ur forced to pvp. All the pvp people need to do pve. But the pure pve ones never even stepped out to real pvp... come on it should be balanced right =P


SOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP QQing if u get pked in SP and ur 80+


maybe my post doesnt make any sense b:surrender

That's because it's a questing area... I'm thankful I got Silverfrost killed ages ago >_>. Because getting PKed whenever you step a foot to complete a quest sucks. Or when you help your friends.

Maybe you should try that, helping your friends and getting PKed at the same time, see how frustrating it is to be unable to complete something >_>.

I don't step out to PVP because I'm still low compared to the 5 APS sins and BMs, and any other class/build who eats 86 seekers and BMs for breakfast DX.

Zubi - Lothranis

Why nost just add a Free PvP Mode? Just like you can turn PK,but with no exp loss, no drops and specially not having to go back to town everytime you die... This would be nice because you could PvP anyone in "free pk mode" anywhere in the map,no QQs from any low lvl and no mobs annoying you..b:surrender

That or a free PK instance with a safe zone and a respawn point close to the PK area...That should be easy anough.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Zalm - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yeah, and let the 'QQers' ragequit....who are you gonna have to pk? you and the other morons up in SP, cuz the low lvls arent coming in any more...you have no idea of simple physics do you?

Please explain how physics plays any part in this. b:chuckle

Simple physics = stand under an apple tree, get hit with apple.

PW = Go to SP and get PK'd.

coolstorybro

tellitagain

b:bye

Ellisandro - Archosaur

if hasn't been fixed? and, if not, why not?

kondors

Whilst there are many admirable suggestions in this thread regarding how a system could be implemented to allow pk by choice, a few things are abundantly clear:

The new content update had no connection to SP whatsoever, and as such there was no viable reason to meddle with what was working beforehand.

PWE unlike any intelligent life forms, seem incapable of learning. The last time they meddled with SP there were hundreds and hundreds of pages of posts from unhappy players from all perspectives (leave it in, take it out, modify it etc etc)

Having created such a swathe of unrest once, you would like to think that once it was resolved, the attitude would have been, "Damn that caused a lot of grief, I wont be doing THAT again". Not so though.

If it is working and the majority of the community are happy with it, leave it the hell alone. There was absolutely no need to mess with it, especially given the fact that you HAD to know the unrest it would cause to do so.

Its also time to stop with the BS about things like, "its been modified to only affect people of a certain level range" Thats not a fix.. put it back how it was, end of.

The so called fixes applied in this game are ridiculous, lazy and clearly not designed or implemented by anyone with a clue. The goon glitch "fix" being a prime example. They fixed nothing, broke everything to prevent people exploiting xp. The glitch still exists, there still a multitude of goons that may be spawned.

It is time also to stop using the catch all phrase of, "Oh its the developers"
Developers do just that, they design new content and features. No one is going to pay someone with that levell of expertise to conduct software maintenance. People with limited experience and ability are employed to carry out software maintenance, and its clear just HOW limited they are. I doubt they have any knowledge of the gameplay,the game design or the input from the gaming community. The vast majority of issues almost certainly never reach those people implementing changes.

When you look at things that clearly ARE the work of the actual developers, they seem to do a pretty good job. The new content works, is eye catching, has a structure and is well received by almost all.

The 'repairs', 'fixes', 'modifications' however are almost universally riddled with horrendous errors, total disregard for the community as a whole, and continuously failing target implementation dates.

This policy too of having discovered a fix to be causing a multitude of new additional problems, then looking to modify these errors instead of fixing or removing them is ludicrous.

Again the analogy is that of a haemophiliac arrivng at hospital with a cut to the arm, and the doctor applying a band aid to cover the cut, and then sending the patient home.

Sure the cut is covered, sure it looks ok for a moment, but the bleeding continues and the patient is still going to die from blood loss.

Dont stick patches over major wounds to what was previously a fully working and functional system. Fix the problems by reverting to what was already working, better still... since it WAS already working.. leave it the heck alone.