Tokens Around 17k on Sanc...
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Am I missing something? Because I'm pretty sure I am b:shocked
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less ppl opening packs thats why.0
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My friends thought I was crazy about 6 months ago when I had over 3500 herbs. Now with tokens heading over 15k again and rarely being near 10k at all since then I've probably saved a lot of coin.
I only have 730 left tho....then I guess I'll just use the ones you get from the Divine Contract guys like I do with my hp pots.
You would not believe how many people have no idea what contracts are, let alone that you can get free gear and pretty decent pots from doing them.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »My friends thought I was crazy about 6 months ago when I had over 3500 herbs. Now with tokens heading over 15k again and rarely being near 10k at all since then I've probably saved a lot of coin.
I only have 730 left tho....then I guess I'll just use the ones you get from the Divine Contract guys like I do with my hp pots.
You would not believe how many people have no idea what contracts are, let alone that you can get free gear and pretty decent pots from doing them.
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Deant - Raging Tide wrote: »less ppl opening packs thats why.
maybe because of the ridiculous price of gold (vs coin) for no real reason?
around 15k per token on DW
I'll wait til they drop to 10k or less again before I buy any.lvl101 Legit archer...not 1 hyper used or multi-FC0 -
AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »You would not believe how many people have no idea what contracts are, let alone that you can get free gear and pretty decent pots from doing them.
Divine quests give surprisingly good rewards indeed. They are a good alternative to the token pots.
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yep yep this is true.I stack my divine blue/purple quest then do all at once.I manage over 1k pots of mana and hp,Dont need crab meat when u have basicly a hefty amount of pots for free.This shows how weak alot in this game is depending on tokensb:laugh ,wines..u can always farm mats,subs..same thing..stop being lazy peopleb:bye
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OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »yep yep this is true.I stack my divine blue/purple quest then do all at once.I manage over 1k pots of mana and hp,Dont need crab meat when u have basicly a hefty amount of pots for free.This shows how weak alot in this game is depending on tokensb:laugh ,wines..u can always farm mats,subs..same thing..stop being lazy peopleb:bye
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Not sure if this was aimed at me, but I'm not lazy, I was just asking why the price of tokens have increased from a day to another.
Way to go on assumpting things. b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] <--- One of the devs trying to fix the game. b:pleased
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AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »My friends thought I was crazy about 6 months ago when I had over 3500 herbs. Now with tokens heading over 15k again and rarely being near 10k at all since then I've probably saved a lot of coin.
I only have 730 left tho....then I guess I'll just use the ones you get from the Divine Contract guys like I do with my hp pots.
You would not believe how many people have no idea what contracts are, let alone that you can get free gear and pretty decent pots from doing them.
yea divine honors are kinda nice for hp pots, the gear is just a bunch of low lvl gear that you cant sell when your done with it.
also gettin quest that rewards you with a divine honor is rare for me, can go weeks before i get a single quest that will give me one, but im also lazy and dun realy do bh everyday. can make money for 1000 hp foods with tokens at 20k each in just bout a day, and will last me several months, im guessing there are more ppl doin the same.0 -
What confuses me is, less than 12 hours ago, they were 11-12k each on Sanc.
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OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »yep yep this is true.I stack my divine blue/purple quest then do all at once.I manage over 1k pots of mana and hp,Dont need crab meat when u have basicly a hefty amount of pots for free.This shows how weak alot in this game is depending on tokensb:laugh ,wines..u can always farm mats,subs..same thing..stop being lazy peopleb:bye
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Apparently you don't know this, but they ARE more things which you can use tokens for: book/tome pages, hypers, tele stones, shards, etc etc. Good luck farming ALL of those.
From your post, I'm guessing you've never made a tome before. I'm working towards a Pan Gu's Creator...a lot of good the Tome Frags I HAVE FARMED do me without the Tome Pages....and it is my personal choice to pay 200k per Tome Page (worth in tokens at 10k per...20:1).
If you're a veteran player, like myself, you've done your fair share of farming along the way. I still farm when I have time...and I'm REALLY bored. I prefer doing a run of some sort (TT/Nirvy/Abba/SoT/Delta/etc) rather than succumbing to the monotony of farming basic mats.
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I'm living off divines/my own stocks atm. Big purchases will wait until tokens are at least down to 11k
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AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »My friends thought I was crazy about 6 months ago when I had over 3500 herbs. Now with tokens heading over 15k again and rarely being near 10k at all since then I've probably saved a lot of coin.
I only have 730 left tho....then I guess I'll just use the ones you get from the Divine Contract guys like I do with my hp pots.
You would not believe how many people have no idea what contracts are, let alone that you can get free gear and pretty decent pots from doing them.
Yes, because 1500 HP and 1500 MP is very useful when you have 10k HP.
TBH, I have so many of those Divine tokens to turn in, but the pots are useless to me except on low level alts, and even on those... 1k HP or mana is useless as well when you have 8k of either stat.
Yes, it is better than a normal HP or MP pot, but no, it is not better than an HP or MP food.
For example, on my nub wizard (level 23), I can basically set a metal weight down on the button for that pot, and as I am casting my skills away, it won't keep up with my mana needs, especially if I'm spamming dew. Was the same for my Psy, or Mystic.
Anyway, about tokens... I don't bother with HP MP food anymore to a point anyway. I don't play my caster classes much anymore, and my Phys classes are all dependent on either a cleric or Bloodpaint.
However, I was looking forward to token prices going DOWN so I could get a book clip for my barb, but that probably won't be happening any time soon now...101 Sage Sin*/Archer
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Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »Yes, because 1500 HP and 1500 MP is very useful when you have 10k HP.
Time to level up.
Pretty sure this and this are rather close to the Herb Yuanxiao and Crabmeat Jiaozi, what with the former ones being 3,000 to both and the Herb and Crabmeat being 3,500 HP and 5,000 MP.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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I don't think the op cares about divine quests or pots.
The token price went up most likely because some nice merchant went an bought everyones existing tokens and marked them up to 17k. Probably put a buy order in at slighlty lower so that the others couldn't restock at the old price. Then if any had restocked an tried to sell at a competitively lower price he simply bought them out...untill thier good sense an greed caused them to start priceing at where he was......That is how token prices move from 13k one day to 17k the next when no event happens to cause it.0 -
MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »What confuses me is, less than 12 hours ago, they were 11-12k each on Sanc.
b:surrender
It was the same thing on RT.
Hell, I even put up a shop overnight to buy them (about 2000 of them) with a purchase price of less than 10k, and when I woke up, I had 2001 tokens.
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Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »It was the same thing on RT.
Hell, I even put up a shop overnight to buy them (about 2000 of them) with a purchase price of less than 10k, and when I woke up, I had 2001 tokens.
Go figure. b:surrender
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No one is opening packs because packs are expensive and they aren't getting anythnig when they open packs.
And its not their imagination either. Packs started out with ~95% odds of Token of Luck.
Prior to Christmas and for quite some time the odds for all were 97%
Now the odds are <98% though Coral, anni, and sunshine still appear to have 97%.
Due to the fact that this is across the board, pwe is not to blaim for these decreasing odds of actually getting something from packs.0 -
Curious how it will affect the game if people really aren't buying as many packs any more. They seem to be PWI's main profit source, so at the moment they're probably making a lot less money than they did in December. However, packs are less than half the price they were on the initial release a year or two ago (1 gold per anni pack), so it's curious how cheap they'll have to make them to continue good sales. It's not unthinkable that eventually they'll hit 10 silver apiece.0
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_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Curious how it will affect the game if people really aren't buying as many packs any more. They seem to be PWI's main profit source, so at the moment they're probably making a lot less money than they did in December. However, packs are less than half the price they were on the initial release a year or two ago (1 gold per anni pack), so it's curious how cheap they'll have to make them to continue good sales. It's not unthinkable that eventually they'll hit 10 silver apiece.
The thing is, the current pack sales aren't even that good.
Before they implemented the 100 pack batch, our regular sale was 50 Packs for 18 Gold, e.g. 36 Silver per pack. Right now, we get 100 for 44 Gold, for 44 Silver per pack. Doesn't sound like much at first, but it's exactly 2/9 more, or ~22.22%, which is quite a hike in price. All for the "convenience" of getting 100 at a time instead of 50. In comparison, the current 50 batch is 22.5 Gold, which is a hike of exactly 25% from the 18 Gold batch.
So yeah, it's not just that the current sale isn't as good as the one we had before, it's also that the current sale is crappier than the ones we've had before.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Im not too sad about the current Token prices because they are still cheap, pots are still WAY cheaper than charms but nobody is converting tokens right now into wedding wine and producing COINS en masse. I would love if Pwi could maintain this price now by selling packs not so cheap. This will keep gold prices reasonable and slow the unavoidable inflation.
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hiddenmonkey wrote: »No one is opening packs because packs are expensive and they aren't getting anythnig when they open packs.
And its not their imagination either. Packs started out with ~95% odds of Token of Luck.
Prior to Christmas and for quite some time the odds for all were 97%
Now the odds are <98% though Coral, anni, and sunshine still appear to have 97%.
Due to the fact that this is across the board, pwe is not to blaim for these decreasing odds of actually getting something from packs.
i got 200 packs and got 2 hp charms my wife who quit logged on got 11 packs and got a scroll of tome, and the 115 hp shard...0 -
It would be nice if they would introduce new mounts/flyers etc to the cs.....like ever.
I have zero interest in packs, but I do have an interest in new mounts and flyers. However they choose to reserve them, and pretty much anything NEW that most other games would put into the shop, for chronic pack openers.
What is the point of having a boutique, and the only thing you ever add to it is new fash? Things go on sale, they go off sale, and very very rarely they put in a few new mounts/flyers then take them away 2 days later etc.
Imagine if the ONLY way to get an account stash stone, or orbs, teles, or fash was to open a pack and they were all untradable. Take the entire cs and put it in a pack, its already mostly there as it is.
Imagine you had a car company and everyone wanted to buy your newest model, but you decided that it would be better to offer them a mystery box for a few thousand dollars that had a 95% chance of containing $100 in food stamps (tokens). You would be justifiably ridiculed, yet it is a reality in PW.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Gold is too high to risk trying to make a profit on packs. Less people are buying = higher token prices.0
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Sounds horrible on other servers. *as far as token prices go* Gold is going for a rather large amount on Archo as well but just today I purchased a nice amount of tokens for around 13k.
True there was the 15k+ shops but we still have people selling around 13k.0 -
1 gold = 1.5mil , assuming 1 gold = 3 packs = 45 tokens, how much would u sell one token if u are a gold buyer? Is 17k really a lot?0
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Looks like I'll be living off my token stash for a while. It won't be pleasant but I think I have enough to last with the divine order pots and elixirs.
Still, wining fbs and bhs must be a pain with tokens at this price. b:surrenderSyredrae ~ lvl 100 Cleric (main character)
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1 gold = 1.5mil , assuming 1 gold = 3 packs = 45 tokens, how much would u sell one token if u are a gold buyer? Is 17k really a lot?
Not the point.
The Token Merchants are buying Tokens from people who open packs. They're not opening any packs themselves, most likely. And Token Merchants control majority of all tokens on any given server.
And if anything, just the ability to sell Tokens for a price is amazing. For example:
Say you buy 100 Packs for 680,000 coins each, totaling 68,000,000,000.
You open them, say you get 1 Best Luck and 1,485 Tokens.
Now you sell the Best Luck for 5,000,000 and the Tokens for 15,000 each.
You now have 27,275,000 coins.
Thus, you actually ended up paying only 40,725,000 for the Packs, or 407,250 coins each.
Alternatively, you could use the 27,275,000 coins to buy packs and keep going until you total under 680,000 coins. Either way, you're looking at buying much more than just 100 packs for the initial investment cost of 100 packs.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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