Thoughts on....

Nahktuul - Archosaur

What are the general thoughts on the 6 month TW map reset that PWE claims will happen?

Do you think it will actually promote competitiveness and fairness?

Do you think it should be 6 months or a year?

Do you think PWE will be able to successfully keep up with the resets or will they 'forget'?

If you are in a major faction who is already successful in TW, how do you think your faction will have to adjust tactics in order to stay on top as the champion every time it resets?

Does these pants make my *** look too big? b:cute

ReMakaBo - Archosaur

I don't know the general consensus- never took a poll?-

Promote competitive TWs and fairness? - Sure for the little factions- They will get to beat up on eachother in somewhat equal TWs for a couple of months- Atleast till the bigger factions that were on map dominance kicks before comes and 15 min facerolls them, just to get some "champion" title- I highly doubt Nems will sit down in the corner with Ascend for 6 mos fighting back and forth --- They didn't meet their ultimate goal of owning the map, why wouldn't they be shooting for the champion title---On easy mode of course.

6 months or a year--- Honestly, I think the devalued the map entirely of its worth, (as if there was any worth before) So they should have just done away with the map- and found some other war system to keep track of wins/losses-

I am pretty sure they could put the map on auto reset or something, I mean they made clerics **** glitter- why coudnt they do that?

I think all the big factions will see a decrease in numbers come time for the reset- I'm pretty sure, now would be a good time to step up their game in leadership. Because a tag, or name of a faction isnt going to keep people interested.

AgentPotato - Archosaur

Nahktuul - Archosaur wrote: »

Does these pants make my *** look too big? b:cute

Yes.

Just take them off ffs.

b:sin

Proski - Archosaur

in theory its a great idea because it gives an incentive to smaller factions to do something sooner rather than later because "were running out of room on the map"

but at the end of the day, people make or break a server, and archosaur isn't exactly known for having dynamic players

Soochi - Archosaur

We shud play ~

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Bye.

XCableX - Archosaur

Brings back memories indeed.... Hmmm.

Super_Heals - Archosaur

they should change it to 1 year...not every 6 months cause if a faction reaches half way to the map and resets again then its a waste....

ReMakaBo - Archosaur

Super_Heals - Archosaur wrote: »

they should change it to 1 year...not every 6 months cause if a faction reaches half way to the map and resets again then its a waste....

Or people should just drop the "zomagah i needz teh whole mapz" mentality, and focus on just having fun TWs-

The new objective isn't map ownership, is simply owning/holding more than anyone else before the season ends-

MaGu$iK - Archosaur

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

Or people should just drop the "zomagah i needz teh whole mapz" mentality, and focus on just having fun TWs-

The new objective isn't map ownership, is simply owning/holding more than anyone else before the season ends-

what if you ,say, are in a faction that doesnt care about fun tws, just 15 minutes facerolls and map domination??

AWWW, POOR NEMESIS b:sadb:sadb:sad IT SUCKS TO BE YOU AFTER THE EXPANSION

Super_Heals - Archosaur

MaGu$iK - Archosaur wrote: »

what if you ,say, are in a faction that doesnt care about fun tws, just 15 minutes facerolls and map domination??

AWWW, POOR NEMESIS b:sadb:sadb:sad IT SUCKS TO BE YOU AFTER THE EXPANSION

dude i don't really care about map ownership srsly...i just want to have some fun TWs...i just mentioned that before for an example

ReMakaBo - Archosaur

Super_Heals - Archosaur wrote: »

dude i don't really care about map ownership srsly...i just want to have some fun TWs...i just mentioned that before for an example

Well, after the map reset- That fun TWs you seek, will be determined by your leaders, and what their personal endeavors are-

Considering the over all goal of this new system; is to obtain as many lands as possible in 6 mos--- We will I am sure, see plenty of factions ALWAYS bidding on lands they know they can faceroll in 15 mins-

Only upside? Is maybe, hopefully for the sake of TW's future- after everyone that has some personal weird need to be a part of the "champion faction" is met- they will finally ignore self centered leaders that only focus the faction to match their own strange fixations, and break off into factions that simply want to take advantage of the game mechanism of mass war just for the weekly fun of it-


who knows,

Sympathi - Archosaur

Actually this means if major guilds want fun TW's there going to have to go for each other sooner rather then later, in the case of comparing Ascend and Nemesis TWs pretty much the whole map was taken before they begun fighting (much more then 24 weeks)

This also means minor guilds can TW more safely and fairly, unless they run into a Major guild not interested in fun TWs and instead just wants land for monies.

So it kinda sucks to be Ascend too MaGu$iK unless both guilds just head right for each other.

Proski - Archosaur

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

Well, after the map reset- That fun TWs you seek, will be determined by your leaders, and what their personal endeavors are-

Considering the over all goal of this new system; is to obtain as many lands as possible in 6 mos--- We will I am sure, see plenty of factions ALWAYS bidding on lands they know they can faceroll in 15 mins-

Only upside? Is maybe, hopefully for the sake of TW's future- after everyone that has some personal weird need to be a part of the "champion faction" is met- they will finally ignore self centered leaders that only focus the faction to match their own strange fixations, and break off into factions that simply want to take advantage of the game mechanism of mass war just for the weekly fun of it-


who knows,

+a lot of points

this is essentially what I said, but for a change I actually used fewer words b:chuckle

at the end of the day guys, people make or break a server. and while in theory the updates are an awesome thing, put to practice? theres no reason to believe either ascend or nemesis will ever bid on each other short of getting as many free lands as they can before having to have to contest for the other lands to then meet the championship level of amount of lands.

now, this doesnt mean ascend or nemesis will get there by default if people stopped flocking to both of those factions and used this map reset for what its intended. but, again, see my premise. show me dynamic players besides 1 group to ever grace archosaur, and i'll npc my only piece of r9

Zhadi - Archosaur

honestly, what i see happening is a lot of fake bids. A LOT. whereas before you'd get them once in a while for trolling purposes and to just be douchebags, now ull get them because a faction wants to have more lands than the others. GG.

Lookingaroun - Lothranis

MaGu$iK - Archosaur wrote: »

what if you ,say, are in a faction that doesnt care about fun tws, just 15 minutes facerolls and map domination??

AWWW, POOR NEMESIS b:sadb:sadb:sad IT SUCKS TO BE YOU AFTER THE EXPANSION

If you're so interested in good TW's and not facerolling smaller factions, then why did Ascend wimp out and bid on Junkies this week and not Nemesis? b:chuckle

WnbTank - Archosaur

This idea might be quite decent for a bigger server or if PWI was run differently. There simply are and will always be too few major players as gear plays too big of an part compared to lot of games. This results to uneven competition with 1 or 2, maybe 3 factions far ahead of others. With the major city apos, it`s unlikely any faction will risk bigger 1k or archo or RT or something I cant think of now. No, they will take the lands next to that city and hence will waste, most likely, weeks for boring TWs just because they "have to".

The only real upside is the less active players that have chance for this content too but I think it should be done differently. Messing up with the land resets will also affect this messed up economy PWI has never managed to control to any real extent. Or I should say, with anything resembling to fair play. With more money up for grasps for lower players, the lower stuff will inflate making the least active portion of players playing less enjoyable as things they need will inflate more than the things higher players need and those may even lose some value due lesser money flow to players that buy em.

I also want to point out apos. With major faction controlling 1k(`cept for Nem, lolz), apos will have decent, stable, price for 2 reasons: 1) Stability, there will be no off weeks after reset when there just is no extra apos on anyone till the 1k is secured again and 2) with bigger money flow, there is less need to take everything you can get from apos. Sure, there are completely different, possible, affects like stability creating a monopoly or just plain lazyness to farm herbs for apos as "you can do it whenever you wish".

What I would like to see is reward and cost free TW like instance, where the content would be like a demo so less active players can see the content. With PWI this will never happen though but it would solve all the problems with large scale PvP events for lower lvl players. Put some sort of entry fee for it so there wont be too much extra load for servers or just create some sort of reward system for it, that will be inferior to TW rewards due being aimed to lower lvl factions. Heck, block factions that control territory from entering, creating 2 different competitive environments where one would be inferior, making it less appealing to factions that can make it in the TW environment.

Ps. Resetting the map wont do anything to heal the sickness, just help the symptoms a bit for a while.

Mesimarja - Archosaur

MaGu$iK - Archosaur wrote: »

what if you ,say, are in a faction that doesnt care about fun tws, just 15 minutes facerolls and map domination??

AWWW, POOR NEMESIS b:sadb:sadb:sad IT SUCKS TO BE YOU AFTER THE EXPANSION

looks more like ascend cares about this lololololoo.
why attack smaller faction now, when tw map is gonna reset soon, to secure ur server cahmpion shiet w/e that was, ahahahahah.

AriesWood - Archosaur

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

I also want to point out apos. With major faction controlling 1k(`cept for Nem, lolz), apos will have decent, stable, price

Dood.. you gotta get your facts straight.. this bashing Nem just cause it's Nem is getting old.

When we made Nemesis, one of the deal breakers for me was apo. I told Kat and Geo that if we did not allow our members to sell 1k apo, I was leaving the faction.

We NEVER told our members they couldn't sell IG. And I personally made IG for a LOT of ppl out of my faction.. including ppl in Ascend.

Also, controlling the map was a personal goal some of our members had. That does not mean we don't want fun TW's. I don't give a damn about map domination, and I have stated as much before, many times. I only want to have fun in a GAME.

But all big factions need lands to fund their TW's. There is just not many ways to get coins in the game and there's too many coin sinks (Lunar BH, anyone?)

Proski - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

Dood.. you gotta get your facts straight.. this bashing Nem just cause it's Nem is getting old.

When we made Nemesis, one of the deal breakers for me was apo. I told Kat and Geo that if we did not allow our members to sell 1k apo, I was leaving the faction.

We NEVER told our members they couldn't sell IG. And I personally made IG for a LOT of ppl out of my faction.. including ppl in Ascend.

Also, controlling the map was a personal goal some of our members had. That does not mean we don't want fun TW's. I don't give a damn about map domination, and I have stated as much before, many times. I only want to have fun in a GAME.

But all big factions need lands to fund their TW's. There is just not many ways to get coins in the game and there's too many coin sinks (Lunar BH, anyone?)

its a repeat of the past, except this time the players speaking for nemesis and ascend are ignorant.

WnbTank - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

Dood.. you gotta get your facts straight.. this bashing Nem just cause it's Nem is getting old.

When we made Nemesis, one of the deal breakers for me was apo. I told Kat and Geo that if we did not allow our members to sell 1k apo, I was leaving the faction.

We NEVER told our members they couldn't sell IG. And I personally made IG for a LOT of ppl out of my faction.. including ppl in Ascend.

Also, controlling the map was a personal goal some of our members had. That does not mean we don't want fun TW's. I don't give a damn about map domination, and I have stated as much before, many times. I only want to have fun in a GAME.

But all big factions need lands to fund their TW's. There is just not many ways to get coins in the game and there's too many coin sinks (Lunar BH, anyone?)

It was a joke mostly but you cant deny the impacts on server when Nem had 1k. It may have been unintentional but fact stands that I was merching quite a bit during that time and during 1-2 month period I never saw IGs on catshops. I made ~100m during that time so I believe I was paying attention when checking catshops for treasures . What happened when Nem wasnt controlling 1k? There was several sellers for them.

ArchTurn - Archosaur

MaGu$iK - Archosaur wrote: »

what if you ,say, are in a faction that doesnt care about fun tws, just 15 minutes facerolls and map domination??

AWWW, POOR NEMESIS b:sadb:sadb:sad IT SUCKS TO BE YOU AFTER THE EXPANSION

stop blaming other factions as a scapegoat when you go from dominating TWs the whole time (less than 15 mins) to getting defeated few times in a row after tall claims of whooping *** in 1 v 1s and getting beaten in 35 mins (btw, in a close TW). Its not other faction's fault if you cant keep up ur faction TW capable and have rage quitters who cant accept defeat and cant learn to improve from defeats. Hypocrites much - claim of wanting fun TWs, and going for little factions just so you can win more lands. Till the time you're winning and facerolling little factions, everything is fine, but u cant put it down your throat if someone else gets better and starts doing that to you.

Soochi - Archosaur

stop blaming other factions as a scapegoat when you go from dominating TWs the whole time (less than 15 mins) to getting defeated few times in a row after tall claims of whooping *** in 1 v 1s and getting beaten in 35 mins (btw, in a close TW). Its not other faction's fault if you cant keep up ur faction TW capable and have rage quitters who cant accept defeat and cant learn to improve from defeats. Hypocrites much - claim of wanting fun TWs, and going for little factions just so you can win more lands. Till the time you're winning and facerolling little factions, everything is fine, but u cant put it down your throat if someone else gets better and starts doing that to you.

http://tinyurl.com/3fnb4rw

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Asked for comment, the following is an official BLOODMYSTIC press release:

"The 6 month TW "season" will just make it possible for Nemesis to do what it was never able to do before - declare victory. They couldn't ever get it together (in Narla or Nemesis) to take the map like they wanted, but now the bar has been lowered to whomever grabs the most land in 6 months - that they can do. The dim-whitted, mindless, no irl self esteem having troglodytes that comprise nemesis will all be able to stop their faction hopping for personal glory long enough to capture the most lands in the next 6 months and tell us all about how much better they are than we are - as though the rest of us really give a ****"

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

ArchTurn - Archosaur wrote: »

when you go from dominating TWs the whole time (less than 15 mins) to getting defeated few times in a row

claim of wanting fun TWs, and going for little factions just so you can win more lands. Till the time you're winning and facerolling little factions, everything is fine, but u cant put it down your throat if someone else gets better and starts doing that to you.

Um, not like you were even VISIBLE for most of this, but there were plenty of very long TWs against junkies that were hardly "facerolls". And they were genuine TWs, not the showboats Nemesis put on with Immunity oh so many times (or did you think we would forget? silly boy).

And last week we had our hands plenty full defending just junkies and boad, both of which I believe lasted more than an hour.

What say you now, oh ignorant one?

And the fact is, my vote is to not TW nemesis ever. I am hopeful factions keep ganking Ascend so I have someplace else to go Friday and Saturday nights. They [Nemesis] are dull. They are boring. And they suck the fun right outta this game.

And as for your claim that anyone in Ascend said anything about being the best, all I can say is I have never seen it. And in fact, I have personally said multiple times (on these very forums in fact) that nemesis is a much better run faction with players that know how to TW much better than the average Ascend player.

Now, if only Nemesis players weren't such galactically giant butt holes* . . . .

*Moderator's note: While we, the moderators of these forums, understand that the above could be construed as naming and shaming, we are quite convinced, based on vast prior experience with said individuals and their posts on these forums, that against all societal norms to the contrary, they are not ashamed of being galactically giant butt holes - they are actually proud of it. Therefore the above is deemed to be in compliance with forum rules. Thank you.

- PWI Forum Moderator

Kattanyia - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

And the fact is, my vote is to not TW nemesis ever. I am hopeful factions keep ganking Ascend so I have someplace else to go Friday and Saturday nights. They [Nemesis] are dull. They are boring. And they suck the fun right outta this game.

Sooo...if you stand behind what you so strongly believe in Nemesis should expect to NEVER see you in a TW again, yes? b:bye

ReMakaBo - Archosaur

We bought him some cheerleader outfits- he'll be on the sidelines shaking his pom poms-

Sympathi - Archosaur

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

We bought him some cheerleader outfits- he'll be on the sidelines shaking his pom poms-

(Behind the doom spawn towers whilst occasionally coming out to IG Frenzy 2 spark BiDs before running back to the doom towers b:avoid)

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

I didn't say that kat. Unlike your teenage paramours, I don't make ridiculous statments (like "I quit the game - again") only to take them back and look utterly foolish.

I stated my preference - nothing more, but certainly nothing less. And yes, I stand behind it 100%.

And proc, you should know better. I never spark my ultis - what a collossal waste of chi. I would rather do 3 aoe's and knock out 50% of the opponent than use the same chi to (maybe) one shot a few high priority targets. IF i spark, it is either (1) for the immunity and damage resistance when I am getting ganked by stunning classes; or (2) setting up a sutra combo (with zooming thunder powder) - and those are very infrequent (what a waste to have a wizard with his fabulous aoe abilities only attacking a single targetb:sad)

In my opinion, wizards in TW are about racking up as many kills as possible - not seeing if you can 1 shot a cata barb. I realize that with rank 9 and the +12 orb sale that the class has attracted the big egos that could care less if their factions lost the TW as long as they 1 shot a 40k hp cata barb, but that doesn't mean I am wrong . . . .

And as for hiding behind any towers, lol, you should talk to your faction. Many many of them will tell you they gank me many many times in any given tw - and no where near any towers. The only time I am near towers, in fact, is when thats where your barbs are, and I try to get away from them asap because I know exactly how easily it is to drop aoes on those towers. I don't mind dying in a tw - but to die without even being targeted? b:surrender

Sympathi - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

And as for hiding behind any towers, lol, you should talk to your faction. Many many of them will tell you they gank me many many times in any given tw - and no where near any towers. The only time I am near towers, in fact, is when thats where your barbs are, and I try to get away from them asap because I know exactly how easily it is to drop aoes on those towers. I don't mind dying in a tw - but to die without even being targeted? b:surrender

A gank in TW... HOW DARE THEY, i shall speak to them at once and tell them if they ever see BLOODMYSTIC in tw, to pm him first and request a 1 v 1 fight once he has finished with his current 1 v 1.

Kattanyia - Archosaur

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

A gank in TW... HOW DARE THEY, i shall speak to them at once and tell them if they ever see BLOODMYSTIC in tw, to pm him first and request a 1 v 1 fight once he has finished with his current 1 v 1.

b:laugh This just made me really LOL!

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

eh why do people take this game sooooooo seriously???? like i would understand back in the day when this game was worth a **** but now??? like really??? REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLY?

here lemme help you.
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