R8 recast ripoff ?

__ian__ - Heavens Tear
__ian__ - Heavens Tear Posts: 162 Arc User
edited February 2012 in General Discussion
I spent 60$ in cash to get these stats ? I expected id get a few bad stats but that's not even funny. PW can kiss my a$$ if they think ill charge gold again. Ive been screwed many times over past three years but this tops it all. I know i was taking a risk but why add dex/str on an arcane leggings ?? b:laughb:angry

Strength +10
Dex +6
Max endurance +25%

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  • SoniMax - Sanctuary
    SoniMax - Sanctuary Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    ENDURANCE b:dirty
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  • J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear
    J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    eh, what? u know it has same chances for most of it's adds... so if you wanted mag and vit, that would be like a chance of what 7.8 so those too added would be a chance of 15 % ... so that would assume u get a 85% chance of getting something you do not want to have on your gear. for each slot.

    what do you expect?
  • BladedZero - Sanctuary
    BladedZero - Sanctuary Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I know what you mean bro

    I opened this tiger pack thing and only got 15 tokens



    the odds of getting good adds on R8 recast is pretty bad. You probably should have researched the percentages before hand. The only ones I know going for recast are simply doing it to get interval or because they didn't like the design of their uncasted R8.
  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I know what you mean bro

    I opened this tiger pack thing and only got 15 tokens



    the odds of getting good adds on R8 recast is pretty bad. You probably should have researched the percentages before hand. The only ones I know going for recast are simply doing it to get interval or because they didn't like the design of their uncasted R8.

    its a lot easier to whine like a little b*tch though b:surrender
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  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    well..next time make coins..its not hard u fail and deserve stank stats.
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  • Flamespirit - Dreamweaver
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I gotta agree- was a waste of 60$. I mean you could have just got it free by actually playing the game....just like you can reroll it an get better ones for free. Seems idiotic to spend money on a game you really don't even like playing.
  • John_Smith - Harshlands
    John_Smith - Harshlands Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Because once upon a time unique builds were something people did, and having the exact same armor as everyone else is boring. (There are people nowadays who will call me fil for putting 6 points in dex to make up to 20 on my Wiz (Voidlands tome put me close enough so I thought **** it)) because being different is dumb in many peoples eyes.

    Also, coinsink and a reason to continue doing trials after you get the gear. Costs like 10% of the original cost to re-roll doesn't it? Just try again and remember that you get a huge defence and refine increase no matter what the stats. (Stats on original R8 were always kinda meh aside the veno legs and the chests for AA/LA).
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  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    They could at least remove that lame "Max Endurance",add on.That's not a random add on,that's pure trash.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    [...] they didn't like the design of their uncasted R8.

    Lol I second that. I don't like the designs for rank8 at all but knowing my luck, I decided not to bother and just keep working on +10'ing my pataka as it is. Two more orbs to go.
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  • __ian__ - Heavens Tear
    __ian__ - Heavens Tear Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Ya guess i was QQ cuz i was angry . And im far from a cash shopper and had saved for that because things are tight right now. Yes i know it was dumb of me to wait two weeks to see if gold resale got better. Also dumb doing as much trials as i could, now u get why i was so angry ? lol. Thing gets me i guess is that they even add Dex to arcane gear . That alone makes me the most angry . Guess ill have to save again to reroll and sorry for the QQ b:chuckle Ask yourself how you would feel if that happened to you b:laugh
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  • Flamespirit - Dreamweaver
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Idk I geuss it is the mentality of needing to buy anything beyond rank 8 an full inventory/bank that really eludes me in this day an age of pwi.
    Rank 8 gear in the +4-5 range with flawless gems is fine for just about anything in the game and recast even more so. Once you have rank 8 all you gotta do is join an active faction that regularily does atleast the first 9 trials weekly and recast will happen free of charge. Can always pick up extra mats from the coin from doin bhs to make it happen faster or save it for eventually refine higher or better gems.

    Really is no reason to spend more than 100$ ever in this game unless you really feel the need to get rank 9 an hang with the rest of the guys who try to outspend each other,
  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    That does suck...horrendously. I'd be upset as well. The max endurance especially is just adding insult to injury. Makes me glad now that I won't see the recast, since they won't make it possible for anyone who is factionless by choice to get them. I'll just settle for normal R8, and be happy. I'd be really upset if after all of that, I got str. add ons, dex add ons, and +25% max endurance add ons. That's the equivalent of PWI giving me the finger, and I wouldn't be too happy with that.
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    That does suck...horrendously. I'd be upset as well. The max endurance especially is just adding insult to injury. Makes me glad now that I won't see the recast, since they won't make it possible for anyone who is factionless by choice to get them. I'll just settle for normal R8, and be happy. I'd be really upset if after all of that, I got str. add ons, dex add ons, and +25% max endurance add ons. That's the equivalent of PWI giving me the finger, and I wouldn't be too happy with that.

    wtf o.O....Just BUY the mats. Seriously ALL of them are tradeable (including ores, unless you open the packs), it's what I did for my r8 chest recast which got me
    +10 HP Recov
    +10 Magic
    Reduce magic damage +3%
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  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    wtf o.O....Just BUY the mats. Seriously ALL of them are tradeable (including ores, unless you open the packs), it's what I did for my r8 chest recast which got me
    +10 HP Recov
    +10 Magic
    Reduce magic damage +3%

    Hmm. I heard somewhere that some of the mats weren't tradable ot something. (Don't fully remember.) How much do each of the mats tend to cost btw? (I'm aware that we're not on the same server, so our price range may be different. Curious nonetheless in hopes of an estimation.) Thanks for the info though.
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  • Sukinee - Heavens Tear
    Sukinee - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Although it's pretty-looking gear, most of the bonuses are pretty bad....because you totally want a magic wep with -1% channeling on it >___>. Yeah the possibility of having an effect on a magic wep is nice, but still, you have to be lucky to get that and possibly run a few tries. In my opinion it's a ripoff coinsink.
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  • ICasTBiDS - Raging Tide
    ICasTBiDS - Raging Tide Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    most people get it for the complect
  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Hmm. I heard somewhere that some of the mats weren't tradable ot something. (Don't fully remember.) How much do each of the mats tend to cost btw? (I'm aware that we're not on the same server, so our price range may be different. Curious nonetheless in hopes of an estimation.) Thanks for the info though.

    On LC, costs under 100mil per armor piece to recast it ( less than dbl nv casting a HH/lunar piece), coins are about 25k ea, shields are like 60-75k, forgot how much the plat ores are, also the nontradble items are only when you open the pack they come in to actually use it, the pack the item is in is tradble (ex. the plat ores you need for recasting r8 armor come in plat ore packs which are tradble and will give you 1 ore when you use it)
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Hmm. I heard somewhere that some of the mats weren't tradable ot something. (Don't fully remember.) How much do each of the mats tend to cost btw? (I'm aware that we're not on the same server, so our price range may be different. Curious nonetheless in hopes of an estimation.) Thanks for the info though.

    I really only know of the Warrior Seal (used in large volumes to get mats from the item forge) is untradeable.

    But the mat prices right now...


    Memorial coins - 25 - 50k
    Round Shield Medal - 70 - 75k
    Platinum Ore - 1.2 - 2 mil
    Damascene Ore - 10 - 15mil
    Adamantine Whetstone - 200 - 750k
    Hapatizon Whetstone - ??? (I haven't seen any of these for sale)
    Oricalcum Ore - ??? (Again, haven't seen any catshop with them)


    Not sure of the other mats...if any, i'll look around when i get home from school and see if I can find some more prices...but majority of items are below 3 mil. Damascene ore has been the most expensive because it is required in the rerolling process, so they jacked the price up insanely high (plus the odds to get it).
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  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    On LC, costs under 100mil per armor piece to recast it ( less than dbl nv casting a HH/lunar piece), coins are about 25k ea, shields are like 60-75k, forgot how much the plat ores are, also the nontradble items are only when you open the pack they come in to actually use it, the pack the item is in is tradble (ex. the plat ores you need for recasting r8 armor come in plat ore packs which are tradble and will give you 1 ore when you use it)
    I really only know of the Warrior Seal (used in large volumes to get mats from the item forge) is untradeable.

    But the mat prices right now...


    Memorial coins - 25 - 50k
    Round Shield Medal - 70 - 75k
    Platinum Ore - 1.2 - 2 mil
    Damascene Ore - 10 - 15mil
    Adamantine Whetstone - 200 - 750k
    Hapatizon Whetstone - ??? (I haven't seen any of these for sale)
    Oricalcum Ore - ??? (Again, haven't seen any catshop with them)


    Not sure of the other mats...if any, i'll look around when i get home from school and see if I can find some more prices...but majority of items are below 3 mil. Damascene ore has been the most expensive because it is required in the rerolling process, so they jacked the price up insanely high (plus the odds to get it).

    Thank you both for the information. I appreciate it. This will help when I finally do obtain rank 8, and if I decide to recast too. (I still may just leave it at stage 1, but I do appreciate the information.) b:victoryb:thanksb:pleased
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If you're not a BM/sin looking to make int gear, then yes. r8 recast armor is a total waste and you should've just made 2nd recast Nirvana.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If you're not a BM/sin looking to make int gear, then yes. r8 recast armor is a total waste and you should've just made 2nd recast Nirvana.

    What about barbs b:sad
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    What about barbs b:sad

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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    inb4lolatclawbarb.

    b:cute

    1.67 wind shield with my +12 r9 axe is no joke, yo.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    inb4lolatclawbarb.

    b:cute

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    On a more relevant note... unless you really HATE how your normal R8 looks or are an interval effective (aka non-seeker phys class) trying for the bonus interval, it's nowhere near worth the cost.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    Obligatory lolclawbarb



    On a more relevant note... unless you really HATE how your normal R8 looks or are an interval effective (aka non-seeker phys class) trying for the bonus interval, it's nowhere near worth the cost.

    I'm sage, yes it is worth the cost.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm sage, yes it is worth the cost.

    Too lazy to math based on your axe speed but did you get it yet? Not sure if I gave you grats or not. b:chuckle
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    Too lazy to math based on your axe speed but did you get it yet? Not sure if I gave you grats or not. b:chuckle

    Working on more damascene ore, soon sooooooo soon. Then world bosses wont take 20 minutes to solo. b:cry
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  • Queenofpower - Dreamweaver
    Queenofpower - Dreamweaver Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Ive made 2 pieces. Chest and Shoes.


    On Chest after one reshape ( had got **** stats first) I have got 3% Crit and 2% reduce phy damage.

    (effectively am pure mag SAGE veno with 17% crit rate)


    On Shoes I have got +242 HP and 2% reduce Phy damage.


    Add to that 1200 HP bonus effect.

    I have 8k HP now with unrefined gear. (waiting for +10 sale)


    4 socket on both pieces (All recast 4 soc )



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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Can you get 2 same stats in one piece of armor? For example 2x critics in one piece?
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    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Can you get 2 same stats in one piece of armor? For example 2x critics in one piece?

    Yes, just like nirvy weapons can get 2 -ints or 2 -chan etc.
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