New Skill for 105s only to abuse

lvmln

So, as i expected all those 105 glitched ppl still run around in all servers. Soon sins are gonna get a skill to make every member in their squad invisible... do all get to be like 105 invisible?What about 105 archers getting a skill to be invisible too?Ppl can buy all the anti-stealth pots there are, but if they cant get to be 105 they worthless. funny tw would that be. Franky dude selling dreams like we stupid, why would pwi punish lame, glitched,rulebreakin ppl when they were the first one to aplaud some sin for getting to 105 first .... are you ***** serious....So as things are some dudes are 105 and the rest gets no chance in getting to that lvl, unless you plan to spend a year or two in fc...
Two options for lying frankie to work around.
1- reroll all server players to 103, a lvl every1 can get to after a few months of fc. no need to ban fc glitchers and loose their money/gear.
2- reopen fc glitch so ppl can get on even lvls -.-
before fc glitch there were like 2 ppl 104 per server, but those have glitched alts so they can take the hit.
DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLOSING DOWN THREADS!

Eccii - Raging Tide

DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLOSING DOWN THREADS!

/inb4closedthread

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

Where's the person with the facehoof pic in their signature?

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver

lvmln wrote: »

So, as i expected all those 105 glitched ppl still run around in all servers. Soon sins are gonna get a skill to make every member in their squad invisible... do all get to be like 105 invisible?What about 105 archers getting a skill to be invisible too?Ppl can buy all the anti-stealth pots there are, but if they cant get to be 105 they worthless. funny tw would that be. Franky dude selling dreams like we stupid, why would pwi punish lame, glitched,rulebreakin ppl when they were the first one to aplaud some sin for getting to 105 first .... are you ***** serious....So as things are some dudes are 105 and the rest gets no chance in getting to that lvl, unless you plan to spend a year or two in fc...
Two options for lying frankie to work around.
1- reroll all server players to 103, a lvl every1 can get to after a few months of fc. no need to ban fc glitchers and loose their money/gear.
2- reopen fc glitch so ppl can get on even lvls -.-
before fc glitch there were like 2 ppl 104 per server, but those have glitched alts so they can take the hit.
DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLOSING DOWN THREADS!

I have to say that you're out of line on this. The skills are mainly for level 100+. Some skills are level 95+, and others are lower still, to my understanding, but why this rank all of a sudden about level 105's in relation to skills. If the skills were level 1+, the 105's could still use them. If they were 80+, they still could use them. Its not like these skills are for exclusively 105 people...a few of whom actually did legitamately earn their levels. I've never goon glitched, and I'm level 100, and these skills help me,...though us clerics really got shafted. My point is that I don't see the relation between QQ'ing over 105's and goon glitches and skills that aren't for 105 people exclusively. You can still reach level 100 through normal fc. I did. Heck, I didn't even by heads until around level 76 (even then, only twice), and never even ran normal fc until around level 80, so not to be rude but your QQ here seems well out of placed.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

lvmln wrote: »

So, as i expected all those 105 glitched ppl still run around in all servers. Soon sins are gonna get a skill to make every member in their squad invisible... do all get to be like 105 invisible?What about 105 archers getting a skill to be invisible too?Ppl can buy all the anti-stealth pots there are, but if they cant get to be 105 they worthless. funny tw would that be. Franky dude selling dreams like we stupid, why would pwi punish lame, glitched,rulebreakin ppl when they were the first one to aplaud some sin for getting to 105 first .... are you ***** serious....So as things are some dudes are 105 and the rest gets no chance in getting to that lvl, unless you plan to spend a year or two in fc...
Two options for lying frankie to work around.
1- reroll all server players to 103, a lvl every1 can get to after a few months of fc. no need to ban fc glitchers and loose their money/gear.
2- reopen fc glitch so ppl can get on even lvls -.-
before fc glitch there were like 2 ppl 104 per server, but those have glitched alts so they can take the hit.
DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLOSING DOWN THREADS!

Yer ****ing ridiculous.

Did you even BOTHER to READ the ****ing description?

Did you just see 'sin' and 'AOE Stealth' and imagine TW where suddenly a full squad of 105 Wiz, Barb, Cleric, and Sin suddenly pops from stealth in the middle of your base and wtffacerolls everyone? If so, then maybe you should get yourself some HOOKEDONPHONIX so you can learn to read, then go back and actually READ THE SKILL DESCRIPTIONS.

Also, you're coming off as butthurt that you can't glitch yourself to 105, despite others doing so against the TOU. That's a bit hypocritical.

Flamespirit - Dreamweaver

Your missing the point- the new skills include more stealth skills

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stealth skills rely on level.

The idea behind it is if your gooned to 105 then the regular people at 101-103 can not see you. However they can see you if they use detection pots.

The cannot see you even if they use detection pots though if your a 105 sin with thier stealth lv skill maxed+lv 11 stealth.

Least i'm pretty sure that is the issue..........

I agree, fine you were not able to fix it in time before tons of people abused it. The answer then becomes punish those who did, or reopen it to let the rest get on equal ground....and we already know that no punishment is coming.

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Idiots...

The only skill in the game that currently makes a sin utterly invisible is Sage/Demon Shadow Escape. And for the record, it does so because it's supposed to: it's an escaping skill, so it would be redundant if you could still see the sin even after it's been used.

Nowhere, absolutely nowhere, has it been stated that the new skills will also have this property. For example, Sage/Demon Shadow Walk doesn't have it. Neither does regular level 10 Shadow Escape and Shadow Walk.

Also, the new stealth skills that we're getting aren't even meant for that. The Archer stealth ends as soon as you move or use a skill and the sin AoE stealth has a 5 second duration. So yeah, the archer can still hide, but then again he can't do anything else and the sin stealth isn't going to get you much of anywhere.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Idiots...

The only skill in the game that currently makes a sin utterly invisible is Sage/Demon Shadow Escape. And for the record, it does so because it's supposed to: it's an escaping skill, so it would be redundant if you could still see the sin even after it's been used.

Nowhere, absolutely nowhere, has it been stated that the new skills will also have this property. For example, Sage/Demon Shadow Walk doesn't have it. Neither does regular level 10 Shadow Escape and Shadow Walk.

Also, the new stealth skills that we're getting aren't even meant for that. The Archer stealth ends as soon as you move or use a skill and the sin AoE stealth has a 5 second duration. So yeah, the archer can still hide, but then again he can't do anything else and the sin stealth isn't going to get you much of anywhere.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nowhere, absolutely nowhere, has it been stated that the new skills will also have this property. For example, Sage/Demon Shadow Walk doesn't have it. Neither does regular level 10 Shadow Escape and Shadow Walk.

Also, the new stealth skills that we're getting aren't even meant for that. The Archer stealth ends as soon as you move or use a skill and the sin AoE stealth has a 5 second duration. So yeah, the archer can still hide, but then again he can't do anything else and the sin stealth isn't going to get you much of anywhere.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Also, the new stealth skills that we're getting aren't even meant for that. The Archer stealth ends as soon as you move or use a skill and the sin AoE stealth has a 5 second duration. So yeah, the archer can still hide, but then again he can't do anything else and the sin stealth isn't going to get you much of anywhere.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

The Archer stealth ends as soon as you move or use a skill and the sin AoE stealth has a 5 second duration..

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

the sin AoE stealth has a 5 second duration..

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

a 5 second duration

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

a 5 second duration

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WTF is your THUUPER OP QUAD gonna do with it's five seconds of OP AOE Stealth? Come on.

It's lame to be QQing so much about such a lame skill. You want to QQ, QQ about the Psy skill that makes their squad untargetable for however long (assuming members within range). Now THAT is ****ing OP if I've ever seen an OP skill. >_>

That's even OP for 1v1. Can't target the Psy, so how can you hit them?

RunningTiger - Dreamweaver

While I agree, the new skills aren't game changers because of levels.

However, I definitely think they should revert fc back. Enough people did abuse the goons to 103+ that it may as well be an option for the rest of us to do---Those of us who did not, becuase it was against the rule an was stated as bannable. If not fixed in time-should not have been fixed.

Salari - Raging Tide

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yer ****ing ridiculous.
Did you just see 'sin' and 'AOE Stealth' and imagine TW where suddenly a full squad of 105 Wiz, Barb, Cleric, and Sin suddenly pops from stealth in the middle of your base and wtffacerolls everyone?

This
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Burnout - Harshlands

There doesn't seem to be a restriction to using it in combat.

If you can't think of how a 5 second force-stealth in combat for your entire squad would be useful, then you're not thinking hard enough.

I would hesitate to call it OP though, although it's on an already overpowered class who can walk around the battlefield at will in stealth and use the group stealth @ the right time at their leisure (if they're 105, at least).

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver

RunningTiger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

While I agree, the new skills aren't game changers because of levels.

However, I definitely think they should revert fc back. Enough people did abuse the goons to 103+ that it may as well be an option for the rest of us to do---Those of us who did not, becuase it was against the rule an was stated as bannable. If not fixed in time-should not have been fixed.

I will agree with this. What they did was moreso punish those of us who did not break the rules.

-Completely nerfed the xp of all dragoons in the dungeon-enough so that even in an alt fc run for the dragoons after heads, you can obtain almost no xp on a level 30's alt.

-Didn't fix the glitch to my understanding, only nerfed the xp for everyone.

-Said it was a bannable offense, and at the end of the day, its not....and saying the worst offenders were punished doesn't mean squat to me. I'm in the field of education, and I can't punish 2 students, and not punish the other 7 if all 9 misbehaved in the same manner. That doesn't look good, and shows poor management, so pwi's poor management in this isn't fair. Its like saying 10 students stole continued to steal extra ice cream, and soda. You punished 3 of them, and gave them suspension. The other 7 you ignored, and told the class it was bad behavior. The good students listened, and did not take more than their share of ice cream and soda. So you decided to spit on all of the students normal share of ice cream, and spit in their cup to keep them from taking too much. Real nice PWI.

-Most, if not all of the offenders got off scotch free, and those of us who never glitched it,...even had offers to glitch it, and refused because we wanted to play the game the right way...because it was against the TOA, and because you said that it was bannable, in which case its really not.

So does that mean that their bannable offense doesn't count, and that I can give my characters earthguard eyes, winged elf makeup, all of the various styles of hair? That's against your TOA as well, and is a far less gamebreaking action than rapidly leveling characters to 105 using a glitch that was your fault. You said it was bannable, and it wasn't. You said all of this, and meant none of it. I'm not saying this to QQ, but other people have a point, and its an agreeable one. You screwed over your playerbase,...puinished everyone, and while writing this, I see in a sense of what the OP is referring to...though he/she truly should have worded it differently since many others did reach our levels through legitamate means.

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Where's the person with the facehoof pic in their signature?

Right here.
/facehoof

seitori

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Futurelord - Dreamweaver

Am I the only one who see a problem with making the glitch available again? I mean really, a few glitched 103-105 people vs 90% of the server being above level 101 seems kinda silly. You do not want that, least you know what a dead server really looks like.

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver

You're not the only one that sees the problem. I see it as well. However, its also not fair to those who played honestly, that in the end, indirectly, the innocent were the ones that were punished for having NOT abused the glitch.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You're not the only one that sees the problem. I see it as well. However, its also not fair to those who played honestly, that in the end, indirectly, the innocent were the ones that were punished for having NOT abused the glitch.

This, not to mention most of the people rush to level 100 anyway. 5 levels is hardly going to change that, it would just take away the advantage of the people who cheated/exploited a glitch.