gear set up

CrazyMig - Lost City
CrazyMig - Lost City Posts: 12 Arc User
edited January 2012 in Blademaster
b:laugh ok i had a thought when dreaming on pwi Calculator and found a aps gear set up that i never seen anyone use before. so im wonder if anyone else thought of this build before xD

http://pwcalc.com/282d939daa37d0aa <- b:victory this is the build i came up with and am now planing to get one day. one day... b:surrender (if it works, if not im still getting it)

and here are the builds i always see on my sever. (not my builds but the builds ive seen others have.)

http://pwcalc.com/f6ba45ce56413706

http://pwcalc.com/3035fb897f213fb2

http://pwcalc.com/a001adf2229fd469 <- 3.33 base and 5.0 spark. with 2nd cast nv claws.

http://pwcalc.com/bd0ef4bbfd06c485 <- same as above, with diff gear. (also a good build)


it might not be the best build due to $$$ but its not out the question for how many ppl are out there with insane gear. i see time after time ppl with pan gu tome that are already 5.0 that just wanted to be 4.0 base. if you dont have 2nd cast nv claws, or are sage, then full nv build is a good option imo.

i know some one going to comment on the shards and refines of the builds i posted so i will say it now. i was 2 lazy to do the real refines and sharding of any of the builds. b:cool
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Comments

  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    2nd cast claws are a serious money sink. If all you do is APS PvE thats fine, but if R9 is in your future, it may be better money spent to think R9.

    I kept looking at your builds going wtf, where is her HP? And then I reviewed them, and they were not refined like you said.

    I think Build wise, you should think about your budget, and what you plan to do with your gear. All of those setups ain't bad, really. I think if R9 is in your future a Nirvana set is a waste except for partials for APS.

    APS is really pick 3.33 or 4, get there efficiently, and then either tank or dps the rest of your gear out. I do think 3.33 is more than enough and 4.0 is a waste, and I really agree with Sabu, and from direct experience, 12-16k hp is plenty, with 12k unbuffed really being a "enough" level of hp for PvE.

    Really, these questions would be key to give a tighter opinion:
    1. Whats your ideal goal? TW, PK, PvE?
    2. How much coin do you have to spend?
    3. What gear do you currently have for the setup (Pan Gu, etc?)
    pwcalc.com/bb6fc16982637a5c / pwcalc.com/28948ee5778526f5
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    2nd cast claws are a serious money sink. If all you do is APS PvE thats fine, but if R9 is in your future, it may be better money spent to think R9.

    I kept looking at your builds going wtf, where is her HP? And then I reviewed them, and they were not refined like you said.

    I think Build wise, you should think about your budget, and what you plan to do with your gear. All of those setups ain't bad, really. I think if R9 is in your future a Nirvana set is a waste except for partials for APS.

    APS is really pick 3.33 or 4, get there efficiently, and then either tank or dps the rest of your gear out. I do think 3.33 is more than enough and 4.0 is a waste, and I really agree with Sabu, and from direct experience, 12-16k hp is plenty, with 12k unbuffed really being a "enough" level of hp for PvE.

    Really, these questions would be key to give a tighter opinion:
    1. Whats your ideal goal? TW, PK, PvE?
    2. How much coin do you have to spend?
    3. What gear do you currently have for the setup (Pan Gu, etc?)

    Saku* b:surrender
    A few people have called me Sabu lately, lol.

    I like that build actually. It kind of hinges around a tome to be 5.0, so you may want to use temporary TT99 pieces until you get there. Rings can be upgraded, and dex down to 200. Not crazy about SDs but they're good (I prefer Windpour or Regicides because I consider them about equal in PvE but better for PvP, making them more versatile. If you ever get a R8 recast plate with -int they are easier to upgrade to G15 5.0).

    The questions Maelael listed are good.

    I do like 4.0 base. I really don't ever use triple spark in instances until bosses, and they only last a few second. So 3.33->4.0 is a 20% bump in unsparked dd, and if cycloning its a 25% bump. In pvp its chi gain and a damage boost because how often do you really spark in pvp? People are right that 3.33->5.0 sparking vs 4.0->5.0 sparking is absolutely zero difference in dps and if all you are doing is spark spamming (say running TTs) then you should opt for the 5.0 sparked setup with better defenses which is going to be 3.33 base. However, if its not just straight spark spam the difference of a few defense points or 25% more damage means you kill things alot quicker and take less damage making it an offensive and defensive gain. Just something to consider.
    Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory
  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Damn it, I have a guy IRL Sabu that I deal with in China, so that's messin with me. Sorry Saku!

    I'll definitely back up Saku on the choice of Regicides/Windpour over SDs. SDs do out DD, but only in Nirvana. Knocking % off of the bigger mobs in trials is way more important than the little bit you get outta SDs.

    I really have zero issue with a 3.33 base in terms of building chi for HF and GS timing. It's pretty much clockwork even in trials, utilizing cyclone or not.

    Personally, I'm really reluctant to switch in LA pieces just to have the 4.0 base, I feel the loss of defense & some damage isn't worth it. It's hard to quantify and map out defense, but I may have to look at an alternate build setup and do the math vs the loss of damage and the gain of 1 swing a second.

    PvP Saku has a seeable point, but I'm still a PvP noob that is still building R9.
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