****/Glitch exploit in Public Quest 3 area

truekossy

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So that way when they release the expansion and you need quest items (or future quests) but you wont be able to do it, brilliant.

Or.... I could turn in whatever quests I may have had since it's a minority that let quest items stay in the bag even while the quest has been trashed? That said, I'd need to do it on a new alt if I were to actually bother since most of my regular characters have most (or all) of their non-repeatable quests completed. b:chuckle

Salari - Raging Tide

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Oh I see, they planned to make sure you had your inventory full so it drops in the ground. I mean they planned that so much so they never even gave it a texture (model) for when it is on the ground. GTFO

It seems you do not understand the concept of design

Salari - Raging Tide

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Lol really? Wow, I have a hard time taking this post seriously...

That is no suprise seeing you have not posted anything productive. I would be suprised if you took anything seriously

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

Let's see.

1) PQ3 is not being used as it is intended (abused)
2) PQ3 is being abused to gain large amounts of EXP in a short duration of time
3) The Abuse might require scripts, bots, or other TOS banned modifications
4) This BS is keeping people from actually doing PQ3 that want to (...lol)
5) The PQ3 abuse is potentially lagging the server, a detriment to everyone else playing the game

So, really, what isn't to understand about this?

Frankie's position that this is working 'as intended' is a bit ridiculous, and IMO, dubious. Comparisons to Goons glitching not withstanding, simply for the impact this is having on the server ping and performance it should be stopped.

I vote to remove PQ entirely. Nobody actually does PQ, except to glitch it or in the case of PQ1, they have one 101+ come in and kill the elite mobs with several lower people in squad for large chunks of EXP for the lower people (which really makes it hard to do PQ1, and is the reason I never bothered with it on my BM or Barb).

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Let's see.

1) PQ3 is not being used as it is intended (abused)
2) PQ3 is being abused to gain large amounts of EXP in a short duration of time
3) The Abuse might require scripts, bots, or other TOS banned modifications
4) This BS is keeping people from actually doing PQ3 that want to (...lol)
5) The PQ3 abuse is potentially lagging the server, a detriment to everyone else playing the game

So, really, what isn't to understand about this?

Frankie's position that this is working 'as intended' is a bit ridiculous, and IMO, dubious. Comparisons to Goons glitching not withstanding, simply for the impact this is having on the server ping and performance it should be stopped.

I vote to remove PQ entirely. Nobody actually does PQ, except to glitch it or in the case of PQ1, they have one 101+ come in and kill the elite mobs with several lower people in squad for large chunks of EXP for the lower people (which really makes it hard to do PQ1, and is the reason I never bothered with it on my BM or Barb).

Let's remove whole FCC all together then as well, no one runs it as intended anymore anyway. and the people that do dont find anyone willing to do it because if prior mentioned reason.

Salari - Raging Tide

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Let's see.

1) PQ3 is not being used as it is intended (abused)
2) PQ3 is being abused to gain large amounts of EXP in a short duration of time
3) The Abuse might require scripts, bots, or other TOS banned modifications
4) This BS is keeping people from actually doing PQ3 that want to (...lol)
5) The PQ3 abuse is potentially lagging the server, a detriment to everyone else playing the game

1) Start quest, kill mobs get exp pick up coins, finish quest, get reward for making ring, how is this not as intended.
2)you can get more exp from FC , which is not being used as intended to get larges amount of exp(regardless who changed it, ), Solo wise you could probaly get more exp from map3 as well.
3)what is the problem is people that using scripts bots ect to "afk" gain exp/coins ect
4)that is possible, but yes not many do it(unless like i was today farming for the ring), but I do agree, if this is holding up other players from doing it that is a problem.
5)99% of server lag has more to do with hardware not software. I am not sure if you noticed but lag on the servers in general is zone based, and a lot of it is client side lag(network or their own machine) not server side. PQ is not in one of the already existing lag areas like RT and West Arch.
Another note, a couple thousand mobs will not cause server lag, it is just not enough.

I tried it once, but not worth the effort, I much rather do 4 or 5 pq runs than pick for 2 hours to get mediocre exp and the coin drops is not really worth it either. For people that bot I can see it being usefull, but not for me

RunningTiger - Dreamweaver

Idk honestly they should just put lv up stones in the damn boutique for say 10$ good for any one lv up.

Zenorx - Harshlands

The npc that stands by the ballista is disappeared in HL o.O

Eccii - Raging Tide

Zenorx - Harshlands wrote: »

The npc that stands by the ballista is disappeared in HL o.O

Well... that's one way to fix it i guess o.O
Do you need to tak to that npc or something? never botherd with pq3...or pq2 for that matter b:surrender

Decus - Dreamweaver

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

I would be suprised if you took anything seriously

I would be too.

Zenorx - Harshlands

Yeah you have to talk to him to start the digging quest which spawns the mobs

Nyxyo - Harshlands

pq3 is pure cr4p... i made 75 crystals that is 3 craft of 25 crystal ring all failed...and a friend did 2 x 25 failed also...keep in mind i took first place and 6 shatter crystal every time.... pure waste of time and mockery... if this glitch is doable i think is only good thing that come out pq3b:bye

Salari - Raging Tide

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I would be too.

b:laugh

very nice :P

Salari - Raging Tide

Nyxyo - Harshlands wrote: »

pq3 is pure cr4p... i made 75 crystals that is 3 craft of 25 crystal ring all failed...and a friend did 2 x 25 failed also...keep in mind i took first place and 6 shatter crystal every time.... pure waste of time and mockery... if this glitch is doable i think is only good thing that come out pq3b:bye

I would rather leisurely farm pq3 than pay the 100m+ it takes to buy that ring, plus its tradable. Heck I didnt even realize I could solo it till yesterday. Its totaly worth it. And plus you do realise that the 25 crystals has the lowest chance to create that ring right? I am not suprised at all it failed 3 times for you and 2 for you friend.

Lyritha - Heavens Tear

gee given the past abuse you would think unnamed MMO company X would jump on this right away close the thread and make a official announcement about this to make things clear.

And here I thought they learned a thing or two when I guess they decided not to shower us with false promises for the new expansion.

freygin

FaceRolI - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol ima go try n dig ballista just to complete that part of the quest b:laugh

then they can kill 200/200
the 6 guards
the elite mobs n boss b:sin

for those who know how to glitch the quest, even if you finish that 20/20 dig quest part, they will still be able to dig the ballista, this quest glitch hasn't been spread around, or they probably do it by using a 3rd party software to force digging on the ballista.

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Nyxyo - Harshlands wrote: »

pq3 is pure cr4p... i made 75 crystals that is 3 craft of 25 crystal ring all failed...and a friend did 2 x 25 failed also...keep in mind i took first place and 6 shatter crystal every time.... pure waste of time and mockery... if this glitch is doable i think is only good thing that come out pq3b:bye

25 crystals = 9% chance. Why would you expect that coming first would give you some special power? Had you gotten 200 crystals, made it 3 times and failed, than i would feel sorry for you.

Why do people automatically assume that only lvl 105 people glitched goons? A vast majority of alts between 100~102 are goon glitchers b:thanks. Just saying 105 are the culprits is a sad take on the issue.

PQ3 = g15 ring + great fun with friends. If there is going to be changed made, change the 200 mobs to 50 b:victory. People will do pq more often. Prince takes 10~20 minutes. 200 mobs takes 15~45 minutes. The other steps takes 5~30 minutes. So pq can take a long time to finish.

As for the original problem, it is totally legit to do if by accident 6 players have full inventories and are doing pq and not noticing the counter after 30 minutes. 6 cannons x 3 = 18 mobs, 3240 spawns x 6k exp = 19.4m exp in 30 minutes for 1 character, or around 3m if divided equally. The coin drop from 20 cannons is 50~60k max, about 800 per mob. 800x3240= 2.59m, i doubt it will ever pay for your r9, but it for sure will pay for everyones repair cost in the squad. I run about 50~120k repair cost and about 100~300k on pots. The above exp will take a person 20 days to lvl from 101 to 102.

I don't really see a problem with letting things continue as they are. If someone wants to do the quest, they can keep on digging their canon and get the 20 canons done and go on with the quest. Later on people will say that doing warsong for exp and money is a glitch to because mobs keep on spawning there.

Badburton - Lost City

i gona world chat this in lost city now an make million ppl take over so tey use it

thx now i get 2 100 aahhahahahahahahahaaahahahah

Ikarium - Dreamweaver

Nyxyo - Harshlands wrote: »

pq3 is pure cr4p... i made 75 crystals that is 3 craft of 25 crystal ring all failed...

You do know how it works? Why would you do it this way? Seems a waste to use that many on the absolute lowest chance of success then QQ about it. Would've made more sense to save more and go for at least the 100 crystal chance, if not saving for the 200 highest.

Salari - Raging Tide

Yeah since it has not been addressed and for so long at that. It is probaly not seen as a problem. It would be nice to have full squads doing this, take less time for sure to finish the quest

Paulrogers - Harshlands

So what ive seen from this thread is the only person from harshlands on here is currently not playing... in other words im good to go lets close this thread now so it stays semi hiddenb:surrender

TCHP - Lost City

pls send me the coordinate so I can go pk them. Bot use is not permitted in the TOS. But it says nothing about killing a bot. b:chuckle

///\ist - Archosaur17

This seems legit and a way to level...I don't see any issue with players farming the turrets (without a bot) for a few hours then 2 shot all the mobs that appear? That seems it's working as intended...so, bannable?


"Exploiting a glitch" - it's not a glitch since it's supposed to spawn a mob when dug and the item falls from the inventory when inv is full- just as any type of item. So... Glitch I think no...

I say this shouldn't be bannable, however BOTTING with it should. Legitly having parties doing the quest however I don't see why they would ban for it.

Jacerai - Dreamweaver

///\ist - Archosaur wrote: »

This seems legit and a way to level...I don't see any issue with players farming the turrets (without a bot) for a few hours then 2 shot all the mobs that appear? That seems it's working as intended...so, bannable?


"Exploiting a glitch" - it's not a glitch since it's supposed to spawn a mob when dug and the item falls from the inventory when inv is full- just as any type of item. So... Glitch I think no...

I say this shouldn't be bannable, however BOTTING with it should. Legitly having parties doing the quest however I don't see why they would ban for it.

A.) You are necroing this thread (it's been over a month). Hell I'm necroing now.

B.) It was already stated by some mod or another that it's working as intended and is not bannable.

///\ist - Archosaur17

Jacerai - Dreamweaver wrote: »

A.) You are necroing this thread (it's been over a month). Hell I'm necroing now.

B.) It was already stated by some mod or another that it's working as intended and is not bannable.

Then why was it still on the front page in General Discussion before I posted in it b:shutup

Jacerai - Dreamweaver

///\ist - Archosaur wrote: »

Then why was it still on the front page in General Discussion before I posted in it b:shutup

The last post before yours was in February. There must be an issue with your general discussion page? *shrug* This is PWI.

Crixxix - Raging Tide

TBH, I don't see why it makes a difference if people do it or not. I reported a botter grinding in Hell the other night, and I saw her back there the next night already. The GMs are kinda fail, I've never even seen one online, monitoring the game like they should be. It's not rocket science to know to ban someone for breaking your own rules.

Buff_me - Harshlands

inb4 closed for necro.
+1

PsychicTuna - Harshlands

Necro!!!

ArmaniEx - Harshlands

Shut up so we can Lvl to 105? If the goon glitch had no punishment, take this free ride to 105 and **** lol.