Do people still QQ about sins?
Cody_tylor - Sanctuary
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In all honesty, I may not have a level 100+ assassin or any toon yet XD. In game people aren't really all butt hurt over the class. In fact, I have seen sins barely tank well unless they have like +10s. I have seen some sins utterly fail at tanking A LOT, especially the 5.0 ones. I am guessing the 5.0 sins have no or have yet to use crab meat jiaozi, only barbs and venoes could do that since they more HP/P.DEF and the skills for that. They are easily overestimated because of a DD with stealth? Sins did NOT spoil players, R9 and easy leveling methods did, it influences everyone to whip in their credit cards (DP or cash shop dependency) just to power level to use these...
WTB PWI 2008 where people were thinking more about doing good rather than pretending to be.
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Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »In all honesty, I may not have a level 100+ assassin or any toon yet XD. In game people aren't really all butt hurt over the class. In fact, I have seen sins barely tank well unless they have like +10s. I have seen some sins utterly fail at tanking A LOT, especially the 5.0 ones. I am guessing the 5.0 sins have no or have yet to use crab meat jiaozi, only barbs and venoes could do that since they more HP/P.DEF and the skills for that. They are easily overestimated because of a DD with stealth? Sins did NOT spoil players, R9 and easy leveling methods did, it influences everyone to whip in their credit cards (DP or cash shop dependency) just to power level to use these...
So you created a topic to dismiss sin QQ, only to QQ about r9.
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Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »So you created a topic to dismiss sin QQ, only to QQ about r9.
ok.
This is not about R9 QQ, I have heard damage it can do, which actually made it a noob breeze in PVE and PVP. You can take out 20 people with an R9 barb.WTB PWI 2008 where people were thinking more about doing good rather than pretending to be.0 -
Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »This is not about R9 QQ, I have heard damage it can do, which actually made it a noob breeze in PVE and PVP. You can take out 20 people with an R9 barb.
So you don't actually know, and yet your complaining about it b:shutup0 -
Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »This is not about R9 QQ, I have heard damage it can do, which actually made it a noob breeze in PVE and PVP. You can take out 20 people with an R9 barb.
Although that is true. You're right. You're not QQing about r9 lol. If you read it. You're talking about how sins have no ruined the game. They've just opened a path into fcing easier. He's right. Most sins get 1 shot by a +12 r9 arma lol. Along with everyone else around them b:chuckle . Anyway. It's sort of like a rock thrown into a pond. Once one person does it more people are starting to because they think it's easier. But in reality they are looking SP and the ability to learn to play their chars the right way. But I can't complain. I do fc a lot too instead of quest but I'm lvl 97. There's a difference. I've been playing since before the fc head exp was popular lol.0 -
While it's true a lot of sins suck at tanking it really just depends on the person's build/the person behind the character.
My sin is 5.5k hp unbuffed... gets it's *** pwned every time against snakefist, does fine against pretty much every other boss (depending on bosses... debuffs) no matter how well I prepare it. Hell even this bm still struggles a bit against snake... if the other dd's aren't quite strong enough to help kill it before it gets strong enough to kill my bm. Point is that anyone, any class can use crab meat jaoizi's to prepare themselves to tank/solo kill something. Albeit a sin just makes it far easier/faster than even some... most squads do. :X
Another thing... the 'more' hp your speaking of comes from gear not really the class, sure some classes get more hp per vit stat they distribute, but with the right gear any class could get 20kish hp. (Rough estimate)
Really I have seen a wizard tank a magical boss... he was really well prepared.
Also to answer the question in the title... yes people still QQ about sins, its just less noticeable since over 90% of the population seems to have a sin these days.
As that old saying goes... can't beat them... then join them. xD (you don't have to throw out your old main/his/her gear to properly gear a semi successful sin.Ah, Mistakes are so easily made. ~ laura resnick
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Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »While it's true a lot of sins suck at tanking it really just depends on the person's build/the person behind the character.
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Point is that anyone, any class can use crab meat jaoizi's to prepare themselves to tank/solo kill something. Albeit a sin just makes it far easier/faster than even some... most squads do. :X
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Also to answer the question in the title... yes people still QQ about sins, its just less noticeable since over 90% of the population seems to have a sin these days.
As that old saying goes... can't beat them... then join them. xD (you don't have to throw out your old main/his/her gear to properly gear a semi successful sin.
No point to QQ.
Play or quit to play another game.
There are many games where character can be leveled without assassin, blademaster classes and can be more powerful than in current game.
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Imagine Wizard with 2 High level Pets - tanks, using heavy armor which not reducing spell power ...0 -
Skyrim?0
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magicsabre wrote: »Imagine Wizard with 2 High level Pets - tanks, using heavy armor which not reducing spell power ...
Skyrim?0 -
I do Im still QQ about sins. sins are OP QQ QQ QQ QQ b:sadb:cryb:sadb:cry
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Yes.Morghast - Dreamweaver wrote: »Skyrim?
And I know other games.
If it could be possible, I could post screenshot of Wizard fighting Dragon along with his Dremora Lords.0 -
Ppl will QQ about annything here... Even I am guilty right now since I'm QQing over QQers... b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »In all honesty, I may not have a level 100+ assassin or any toon yet XD. In game people aren't really all butt hurt over the class. In fact, I have seen sins barely tank well unless they have like +10s. I have seen some sins utterly fail at tanking A LOT, especially the 5.0 ones. I am guessing the 5.0 sins have no or have yet to use crab meat jiaozi, only barbs and venoes could do that since they more HP/P.DEF and the skills for that. They are easily overestimated because of a DD with stealth? Sins did NOT spoil players, R9 and easy leveling methods did, it influences everyone to whip in their credit cards (DP or cash shop dependency) just to power level to use these...
Look, I'm gonna save you some... Something. I'd say braincells, but I don't think that's possible.
1) My Sin TANKED FCC/TT1-1 through 3-1/whatever at level 90 without using ridiculous amounts of Crab Meat
2) My Sin at 100 can solo FCC including mobs in about 30 minutes, and I don't have no R9
3) You should actually ATTAIN something before you start making grand statements about it. This is one of the huge reasons that Demon Archers saying Sage Archers fail is so hilarious
4) Sage BP is ****ing OP as hell101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
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Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »Sins did NOT spoil players, R9 ... did...
Yeah because my full JoSD R9 gear TOTALLY keeps me from dying in less than half a second when a sin 3 sparks in stealth > white tea > stuns > Abs domains > auto attacks with 30%+ crit plus zerk with R9 daggers... Totally... And by totally, I mean R9 doesn't help at all vs. a Sin at full power. Even with 92 def levels and 17k pdef...
Even if I have time to put up Plume shell, all it means is I have no mana to fight back with so I get two MP charm ticks for the price of one death, yay! The only way I've been able to consistently beat sins is by chaining genie skills with apoth and base apoth. Even then I have to time A/D or Expel to outlast their initial stun out of stealth and hope that none of their attacks zerk beforehand.
I haven't just been on the receiving end either. My Sin is 100 with 4.0 APS unsparked. Even with +10 Nirvana daggers and one garnet shard, its damage output outstrips that of my Cleric (Who has a R9 Glaive, +12 with two Icebournes) by very wide margin.
So yeah, nobody QQs about sins anymore because it's pretty much common knowledge that they're OP and people have just accepted it.
...but they're still fun to play...b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Agreed! What my Daia babyb:dirty said its true, sins are OP and if they are 105( which most of them are) its even more annoying. Also, what is annoying is bramble in pk...do something abt it GM,sb:cry I wanna take advantage of my bramble. Ohh, and if i am at this point, make psy buffs purgeble :)b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Morghast - Dreamweaver wrote: »Skyrim?
You mean elder scroll ? Start from TES III : Morrowind ? They are single player though..
And maiq already say that he doesn't want to play with other people... b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »In all honesty, I may not have a level 100+ assassin or any toon yet XD.
It doesn't sound like you've had much experience in the game in PVP or PVE. I don't see why you feel like making a topic to ridicule others while flaunting your ignorance.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The problem with the majority of sins is that they rush to get 5 aps and +12 weapon and neglect everything else. While being able to solo fc in other instances all they do is steal aggro, die and blame the cleric. The fully refined/sharded end game sins are pretty OP. What it comes down to is money, and in that case a 5 aps +12 sin with low refines/defense may be their limit so it's hard to decide either way.0
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Hi, I'm CritCat, a 101 R8+5 Sage assassin. And I hate assassins.
Assassins suck.
QQ.
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Sins are like, a good rl money investment. If u can't CS, trust me don't make a sin. Nothing's more discouraging than watching urself walk around with fail gear while other people CS their way to r8,TT99, nirvana and then r9 +12....
Sin duels are now mosly a test of refines and aps. It's become a really boring cla....
Oh look at me, another OP fail sin QQing cuz i can't CS b:shutup
Oh but the RT does have some noobs who've gotten their OP gear from other sympathising people and then boast about it as though it were their own work. Well atleast some humility wud've been expected but meh this is perfect world, they must really suck in their real world b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
BloodyNero - Raging Tide wrote: »...
Oh but the RT does have some noobs who've gotten their OP gear from other sympathizing people and then boast about it as though it were their own work. Well atleast some humility wud've been expected but meh this is perfect world, they must really suck in their real world b:surrender
It is common for all servers.
All those (free to play) who have their OP gear use money of "sympathizing" people. I mean gold, because without it player can't get premium (rank) equipment and refines for it.
Sometimes it is through merchandising, farming of instances, sometimes through help of faction or girl/boyfriend.0 -
Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »While it's true a lot of sins suck at tanking it really just depends on the person's build/the person behind the character.
My sin is 5.5k hp unbuffed... gets it's *** pwned every time against snakefist, does fine against pretty much every other boss (depending on bosses... debuffs) no matter how well I prepare it. Hell even this bm still struggles a bit against snake... if the other dd's aren't quite strong enough to help kill it before it gets strong enough to kill my bm. Point is that anyone, any class can use crab meat jaoizi's to prepare themselves to tank/solo kill something. Albeit a sin just makes it far easier/faster than even some... most squads do. :X
Another thing... the 'more' hp your speaking of comes from gear not really the class, sure some classes get more hp per vit stat they distribute, but with the right gear any class could get 20kish hp. (Rough estimate)
Really I have seen a wizard tank a magical boss... he was really well prepared.
Also to answer the question in the title... yes people still QQ about sins, its just less noticeable since over 90% of the population seems to have a sin these days.
As that old saying goes... can't beat them... then join them. xD (you don't have to throw out your old main/his/her gear to properly gear a semi successful sin.
Are you effing kidding me? 5.5k hp on a sin is the epitome of FAIL. I also bet you are 5.0 as well huh? Well I am 5.0 and have 8k hp unbuffed and I only have +7 dags. Well now most of these fail sins are worried about their damage output so they +10 or higher their weapon and leave their gear at +3-5. Really and so you expect to tank hits from bosses with 7.2k hp with barb buff? Which bosses FB 59? LMAO
Some of these sins nowadays just need to step it up.0 -
magicsabre wrote: »
Sometimes it is through merchandising, farming of instances,
I respect people who've earned their gear this way. And i guess they do deserve the right to feel proud about it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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SubtleSpeed - Lost City wrote: »Are you effing kidding me? 5.5k hp on a sin is the epitome of FAIL. I also bet you are 5.0 as well huh? Well I am 5.0 and have 8k hp unbuffed and I only have +7 dags. Well now most of these fail sins are worried about their damage output so they +10 or higher their weapon and leave their gear at +3-5. Really and so you expect to tank hits from bosses with 7.2k hp with barb buff? Which bosses FB 59? LMAO
Some of these sins nowadays just need to step it up.
Not all sins have +10 refines on their daggers. Alot of them just have +3 to +5 refines maybe +7 and similar refines on their armor too. 5.5k HP is an average HP. Even at 2.86 aps sins can steal aggro from any1. Dying is just an occupational hazard.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
SubtleSpeed - Lost City wrote: »Are you effing kidding me? 5.5k hp on a sin is the epitome of FAIL. I also bet you are 5.0 as well huh? Well I am 5.0 and have 8k hp unbuffed and I only have +7 dags. Well now most of these fail sins are worried about their damage output so they +10 or higher their weapon and leave their gear at +3-5. Really and so you expect to tank hits from bosses with 7.2k hp with barb buff? Which bosses FB 59? LMAO
Some of these sins nowadays just need to step it up.
Believe me.. or not I do not care if you do... 5.5k hp suffices, and I certainly didn't meant to imply I thought I could do it all with that low of hp... but it does do the trick. (For the record it is one of those... dare I say it? "Fail" claw sins... which I do plan on changing it back to daggers as soon as I can. I have tanked several bosses with it, all fc bosses (up to decaying fragance without cleric/mystic heals, fragance with a cleric, last 2 without.) That is all while only self buffed too. (for the solo bosses) ... It's 5.8k ish with the claws on. I think you might just be surprised at how well a sin could handle things with 5.0 + claws. Hell it can do rather well even with just the +5 tt80 daggers I have for it... when I decide it's better to just use daggers.
In other words while refines on gear and not just the weapon helps a lot to tank bosses... it is NOT necessary to be a semi successful tanker. (Even if it means having to snack on food while being healed by a cleric.) The sin I speak of has done a hell of a lot with, and without a cleric to heal it.
Like I said it seriously depends on how well you prepare yourself, and no you DON'T have to have a charm at 5.5k hp... crab meat jaoizi's/limb potions (from the blue quests) do the trick and then some for the most part.Ah, Mistakes are so easily made. ~ laura resnick
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Only thing I QQ about for a sin is that they are all photocopy's of each other xD
If I put fulls funds towards my sin I would go for:
http://pwcalc.com/e46e3ac2aa6f3523
Only thing about the calc I ain't likin' atm is the fact it won't show the R8 recast set bonuses...it would be 5.0 base with that set-up >_>Nothing worthwhile to mention here, enjoy the animated signature~
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Cody_tylor - Sanctuary wrote: »In all honesty, I may not have a level 100+ assassin or any toon yet XD. In game people aren't really all butt hurt over the class. In fact, I have seen sins barely tank well unless they have like +10s. I have seen some sins utterly fail at tanking A LOT, especially the 5.0 ones. I am guessing the 5.0 sins have no or have yet to use crab meat jiaozi, only barbs and venoes could do that since they more HP/P.DEF and the skills for that. They are easily overestimated because of a DD with stealth? Sins did NOT spoil players, R9 and easy leveling methods did, it influences everyone to whip in their credit cards (DP or cash shop dependency) just to power level to use these...
I knew there were some frost babies out there but DAMN..... just having a high aps sin doesn't mean "derp derp Tri-spark means i can tank anything" nor does high armor/Weapon refines or a large amount of HP make you invincible, its not how big it is, its how you use it that counts.... and inb4 "That's what she said" joke b:shutup or in other words its not about how you equip your sin or how fast your aps is, its about the person playing that character and how well they know the class and how to play it.
So in conclusion, as someone said before, yes sins are OP'd, but almost everyone has a sin so no one really cares anymore. No, you don't have to CS to equip a Sin well and hell if you really work for it, you can get R8 too. Nothing is impossible if you put your mind to it...
Now Shut the F*ck up and play nicely with each other.... b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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_Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »Only thing I QQ about for a sin is that they are all photocopy's of each other xD
If I put fulls funds towards my sin I would go for:
http://pwcalc.com/e46e3ac2aa6f3523
Only thing about the calc I ain't likin' atm is the fact it won't show the R8 recast set bonuses...it would be 5.0 base with that set-up >_>
lol, charging 400 dollars everyday for the rest of your life, u won't get those.
lol at the posts about the sin with 5.5k hp. my sin has 7940 hp buffed. 6.1k unbuffed, 3.33 aps, +5 r8 dagger. Tanked snakefist... learn to play, especially one of the easiest class...0 -
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