Proper HA sin build

Cinderball - Raging Tide

Niteshadows - Harshlands wrote: »

@cinderball
Edit:
ah almost forgot. i went back over and read ur last 2 comments. sins aren't made for aoe's as they only have 2. and another thing about HA, it does allow u to tank more mobs but when it comes down to it: u stripped away the very essence that makes ur sin a "true sin". a true sin is someone like skai, pytharia or anyone who have followed the pure dex build. unlike u who took a 1v1 class and morphed it into some sort of hideous abomination. @.@ P.S. i think i made it clear that thing u call a sin is fail. hahaha

Apparently you didn't read them thoroughly enough. You are right that we only have two AOEs and will always be far outdamaged by the other classes in the long run. However, we have high AOE spike damage to compensate. Our AOE's are among our hardest hitting skills with lvl 11 subsea getting a 6.5k dmg add and earthen rift getting 400+% weapon damage. Triple sparking followed by lv 11 subsea and one sage amped earthen rift or two demon amped earthen rifts does some serious damage. If you crit/zerk or zerk crit with g15/r9 dags, the damage is astronomical and with sin chi skills, I can repeat that combo on subsea's cooldown several times in a row. The base damage of my AOE's is also very close to the damage of a pure dex sin's AOE's in that state. The flaw is that I crit and zerk crit significantly less than a pure sin does due to my lower crit but it is still rather frequent. For seeing what our AOE's can do, Skai's delta video is a good example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLI45uSYOw

Niteshadows - Harshlands

Cinderball - Raging Tide wrote: »

Apparently you didn't read them thoroughly enough. You are right that we only have two AOEs and will always be far outdamaged by the other classes in the long run. However, we have high AOE spike damage to compensate. Our AOE's are among our hardest hitting skills with lvl 11 subsea getting a 6.5k dmg add and earthen rift getting 400+% weapon damage. Triple sparking followed by lv 11 subsea and one sage amped earthen rift or two demon amped earthen rifts does some serious damage. If you crit/zerk or zerk crit with g15/r9 dags, the damage is astronomical and with sin chi skills, I can repeat that combo on subsea's cooldown several times in a row. The base damage of my AOE's is also very close to the damage of a pure dex sin's AOE's in that state. The flaw is that I crit and zerk crit significantly less than a pure sin does due to my lower crit but it is still rather frequent. For seeing what our AOE's can do, Skai's delta video is a good example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLI45uSYOw

link the gear u wear through pwi calc so i can see what "defense" u r referring to. i also would like to see what ur crit rate is and dmg output as well.

self buffs only.b:bye

Niteshadows - Harshlands

b:victorywell i guess since whatshisface won't post back i guess HA sins r as fail as everyone claims them to be. im done here, clean urselves up.


Final Ruling: HA sins r fail. and someone who is bored out of their mind would only make one for the lol's.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

I wouldn't say fail. I mean, if they enjoy it, I don't want to discourage it.

Flaming is never a way to solve issues. That's my take. If someone's having fun, why be a party pooper?


And XD yeah, R9 can AoE spike pretty hard.

thumbs

Cinderball - Raging Tide wrote: »

Apparently you didn't read them thoroughly enough. You are right that we only have two AOEs and will always be far outdamaged by the other classes in the long run. However, we have high AOE spike damage to compensate. Our AOE's are among our hardest hitting skills with lvl 11 subsea getting a 6.5k dmg add and earthen rift getting 400+% weapon damage. Triple sparking followed by lv 11 subsea and one sage amped earthen rift or two demon amped earthen rifts does some serious damage. If you crit/zerk or zerk crit with g15/r9 dags, the damage is astronomical and with sin chi skills, I can repeat that combo on subsea's cooldown several times in a row. The base damage of my AOE's is also very close to the damage of a pure dex sin's AOE's in that state. The flaw is that I crit and zerk crit significantly less than a pure sin does due to my lower crit but it is still rather frequent. For seeing what our AOE's can do, Skai's delta video is a good example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLI45uSYOw

Add in: Chill of the Deep, Wolf Emblem, and Power Dash to the spike dmg cocktail.

Cinderball - Raging Tide

@Niteshadows I apologize for having both college classes and work MWF and not reading up on the forums until now as a result.

My current build: http://pwcalc.com/6eb2682cd8046b31
Slightly more expensive LA version: http://pwcalc.com/f8bbe448e4fb5d67

I'm well aware of my poor shard choice of using sapphires in the HA. For the armor, its an old habit of always putting one alternate gem in for aesthetic reasons and all the shards in the cape and helm were from last summer back before I found out that citrines offered more magical survivability than magic gems. b:chuckle The phys neck was for the strength bonus which I no longer need since I hit 101 and engraved my ring. Shards still remain because I figured I'd wait until I upgraded my ornaments before resharding everything. Swap all the sapphires for citrines and the HP for both is nearly identical. Using those citrine sharded builds for the calculations, I ended up with the HA taking 16% more magic damage and 39% less physical than the LA. LA crits 30% more often and has 20% more base damage than HA but I can tolerate the loss since both spark and ss proc help to cover what I lose.

@thumbs You are right! I forgot to mention cotd and wolf emblem in that last post. Must of been more tired than I thought last night. xD For me, adding in powerdash is more situational given the massive spark usage. I only do that when I know I'll have a min to regain chi and reset cooldowns. xD

Traz - Dreamweaver

*after a decent amount of thought and sleep, I'll just refer to my build as a str build instead of HA build*
HA THIS!!!! *DROP KICKS*

But on a more serious note O.o

If I would have started straight off with a HA sin i'd be sitting at *this right now*

Yes, it would have worn 3/4 LA ...... I don't care about HA boots / wrists and LA orns because the LA orns are beyond worthless to me. I like every piece being useful, so that's why I used LA armor and HA ornaments. I fine this set up more superior. As you can see I was also nearly done with the sin when i started it. If I farmed pants / daggers oh look it's a "non fail sin," but this would have been a great set up to have 2 chars to run nirvy with and do 99 keys while I farmed it. It's superior if you have the gear already, and it's superior if you just want to mess around on a sin and use another class as your main farming toon. Anyone that's dedicated to degrading any HA sin that has a similar build or is close to mine really needs a hug. Which ironically, if you asked a HA sin, I'm sure they would be more then happy to give you a hug so you can move on with your life.