It saddens me how ungrateful a lot of players are here.

Rose_Corset - Dreamweaver

People really shouldn't complain about the events being shortened or the same rewards every year. Personally, I like having the same stuff, It means if I miss out one year, I get to go for it again the next year. and if I already got it last year? Just don't get it again and wait for the next new event or send it to a different character.

Also, keep it up guys, all the moaning and groaning just shows how unappreciative the majority of the player base is. If you want to see what that can eventually do to a game, go check out holy beast online. The management has all but abandoned the American version of the game. Why? Because the players were always completely ungrateful for events and such.
And because the players showed absolutely no respect for the management. (though this second one isn't an issue here)

Its not hard guys, Just say thank you when they make events, even if they have to shorten them. The same applies with the fashion, you KNOW it will be there next year, and you KNOW there will be other events to play in. Even if its shortened the event is still there. In holy beast? The events are gone because management is gone.

Free items like mounts and fashion? Come on, who cares if its the same every year? Guess what? That means you can pick which character to send prizes from the web page too! So its not all on one character. Ive yet to see games run by other companies that give nearly as much back to the player base that PW does.

No body is mad here, so lets not go into rants about how Im going against my fellow players. It just saddens me to see so many people get bent out of shape over WONDERFUL game management like PW has. Because we could have no management, meaning no bugs are ever fixed, no events -full length or shortened ones-, no free items at all, no rewards systems, no nothing.

The management could always just stop events, and stop the free items, and let the game die because everyone would complain about that too.

Holy Beast wasn't that great to begin with so it wasn't a huge loss when the game was abandoned. But do we really want to tempt them to stop all the freebies here? Do we really want to see what perfect world will be like without the occasional 2x exp and drops?

Desdi - Sanctuary

I often get tired for the QQs but among those complaints there are some valid ones, in which I join once in a while if I judge they are really valid.

I, personally, appreciate what PWE does for us but there used to be more events and with better prices (even if they were temporary such as the temporary pirate fashion at halloween) or the Valentine's pendant reward.

This year's Christmas event was much like the Nien Beast one that also suggests being oriented to the heavy cashhopers or merchants who have the gear in order to reach the top ranks. Whereas back in 2008 (for example) there was free temporary Christmas fashion (if I recall correctly), and a few other things that even low levels could do (snowmen, free exp quest etc. I don't remember much as I was on vacation for most of December). I don't care for the anniversary prizes, all I wanted was that fashion (one of my favourites) so the rest I don't care even if it's the same mount for eternity XD

I suppose the real argument is not the lack of events but rather the fact that events now lean too much towards the cashshop, heavy merchanting, money, boutique etc. leaving most casual players behind.

Mind you, I'm not here to complain about "old PWI was better" but the communication between the players and the staff was somewhat better. GMs would talk/appear in-game much more often. Of course complaints existed even back then but I wasn't an active poster in the forums thus I don't remember much.

As for the bugs. Well, bugs are actually not being fixed that much, with the exception of few. There are bugs that exist since open/closed beta that were never fixed or at least since I started playing in October '08. I mostly see localization than bug fixes.

PWI has not been abandonded but it certainly feels like it does from PWE US's part. Content is being made and added by the China PW but on our side it looks more like they are trying to milk the game and get as much money as possible before it dies. Well, that's how the playerbase feels.

I believe the lack of solid/good communication between the playerbase and the staff is what has increased the QQ so much as players feel that they are greatly and repeatedly ignored as well as have been lied to on several occasions (like when the TW changes occurred in order to "balance" economy yet the very next day introduced more pack sales).

WickedSwords - Heavens Tear

Rose_Corset - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Because we could have no management, meaning no bugs are ever fixed, no events -full length or shortened ones-, no free items at all, no rewards systems, no nothing.

The management could always just stop events, and stop the free items, and let the game die because everyone would complain about that too.

Just had the urge to post a reply on that statement(even tho i quit the game long time ago).

They might as well do that.

Reason:As far as i am informed(yes i do get insight on what is going on in here nowdays) player-base has every right to be displeased.Why?Well firstly because there are glitches as old as certain expansions(which are of course left unattended,and believe me even forum mods stated such stuff.Which is more or less a serious cry that game has at least some issues regarding this matter.Best example is PK ability in first room of cube).
Next thing in line is their lack of inspiration or probably some die hard greed to exploit player-base by introducing anniversary packs(those are supposed to last only by certain time amount but instead they became full time cash shop item or simply renamed for different purposes.In same department you might as well add up broken balance that made chaos in whole game is so called APS).
And you might as well ask yourself what kind of game is this when whole point is killed if there exists only one class as others are obsolete.
But to make stuff even more exciting lets add up one more obvious thing to this already lame-train...and that my friend is playability.Now for those who have started this game for their very first time and even if they decided to do PVE content only they will get as far as certain level or certain part of game content..why?Because most of the game is nowdays becoming play-solo instead of game's original intention of making party play encouraged as game is that much unforgiving.

Bottom line is that majority of players(even those who left same as me)left loyal to this game for quite long time as much as they could endure it in bad times,and still they were kicked in the shins for being that...a loyal player.
So how are players ungrateful perplexes me by a big margin.

Kyna - Lost City

Dude, some of the stuff they give now is just awful. It was nice the first time around but year after year of the same thing, and not to mention how many glitches they introduce on top of the ones that they already had/refuse to fix. It's neglectful. It's not so much the fact that "we are getting stuff we don't want." as it is the company's attitude toward the player base. They honestly couldn't give a **** so long as they are making money.

The packs thing was just a bad idea, I could see it maybe every so often but as it's been pointed out already, once it became permanent (or oh-so-cleverly renamed, which was like an insult in the first place, as if they think their players have "stupid" written across their foreheads.) it was starting to become quite a bit more apparent that they really don't give a damn about their players. Just dollar signs, which doesn't sit very well with most people... for obvious reasons. They ruined a good thing.

It was never perfect but it had potential and leaning the focus so far towards heavy cash shoppers (and I mean heavy cash shoppers, not the normal player who spends a moderate amount.) is sort of what's killing it. I quit the game a while ago, I haven't played in a good six months to a year. I still pop on to say hi to friends, I still like some of the ideas, I still like my characters, the character creation, and the community here on the forums, but the uninspired, patched together events that have turned into the exact same thing every single year has completely lost my interest as a player.

And on the topic of the fashion you normally get. Ugh. They don't even have the decency to at least make sure that you get it all in the same color =_=;; And you know, some of the stuff they give you is like a rock. There's no inscentive to keep me playing if I'm going to get useless things. I mean would you work/play/associate with someone that gave you rocks all the time? As a long time player, I got tired of getting rocks. The senior players got nothing out of these gifts. So I can understand if you think it's being ungrateful, especially since you seem to be a relatively new player, but trust me, you'll get tired of getting rocks too. Assuming that you play long enough.

Nyxyo - Harshlands

i ll stop rage when i get back my dagger hitman legend's +11 that i sold to npc by hurry and with double click to move to sell window feature that i wasn't aware...other ppl got gear back i didn't

or when all 105 sins that made fc bug to get it in few weeks will stop kill me cause lvl advantageb:laugh

or when they bring back nein beast event that let me participate because was 2 times a day


or.... when they stop restrict way to make coin in game ...see ultimate sub...see bound gold tt
see gold mats on cips...

or when they take a break from stupid box that made gold go up to 2mil coin....

or when i see GM actually in game taking care of problems...i wc once 20 times for a gm to come ban a boot...nobody come...

then maybe and not even then...is human nature to want more....but i ll tune it down if solve some of above