Let's talk about the right uses of Chromatic Healing Beam

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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I am not telling you how to cleric. I only quoted you in my lengthy reply to tweaks to point out where I decided on the initial combo. I never said that one should do one thing over the other. I made a statement, and proceeded to defend it when it was questioned.

    I didn't say "use BB always in lieu of other heals." Nor did I ever say "BB is better than all other heals." I said, BB is more efficient given this generic combination of skills. Obviously you'd aim to use whatever skill is appropriate in your given situation. I never attacked your ideas or methods at all.
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What I hate is how clerics are so resistant to advice. there like the only class who absolutely will not listen to a word you say. Which is why I leave when there's a **** cleric in squad.
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This. And what's funny is the worst clerics leave when you give them advice, solving the problem.



    Although I agree with the initial post who still does individual pulls in Warsong? Any ranged class can pull the group, any barb can pull the group, any sin can pull the group, and anyone with bramble range can pull the group. Why are people pulling single mobs with earthflame and pets and leaving other mobs to be chain aggrod?
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Quoted for truth.

    I felt like this needed to be quoted again for further truth.
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    b:bye
  • Kurisutina - Sanctuary
    Kurisutina - Sanctuary Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I am not telling you how to cleric. I only quoted you in my lengthy reply to tweaks to point out where I decided on the initial combo. I never said that one should do one thing over the other. I made a statement, and proceeded to defend it when it was questioned.

    I didn't say "use BB always in lieu of other heals." Nor did I ever say "BB is better than all other heals." I said, BB is more efficient given this generic combination of skills. Obviously you'd aim to use whatever skill is appropriate in your given situation. I never attacked your ideas or methods at all.


    O.o Calm down dude. I was just pointing out my opinions of heals. As for the "Don't tell people how to cleric." Was for the original poster. XD

    "Right uses of Chromatic Healing Beam" That to me, is telling someone how to play their class.

    As I've posted everyone has their own ways of healing.
    Changes are inevitable, Conform or be Left behind. ^_^
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Kurisutina - Sanctuary wrote: »
    O.o Calm down dude. I was just pointing out my opinions of heals. As for the "Don't tell people how to cleric." Was for the original poster. XD

    "Right uses of Chromatic Healing Beam" That to me, is telling someone how to play their class.

    As I've posted everyone has their own ways of healing.

    It's a pity tweaks never came back to see all of my five minutes of work b:sad

    He has a habit of making blanket statements and then leaving.
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  • Jacerai - Dreamweaver
    Jacerai - Dreamweaver Posts: 943 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It's a pity tweaks never came back to see all of my five minutes of work b:sad

    He has a habit of making blanket statements and then leaving.

    D'aw. Well I read through it and enjoyed reading the math (good to see someone still has a head on their shoulders, mathmatics-wise). :D

    Hunt down tweaks? b:surrender
    b:cute The world may be small, but it is far from known.

    Why the rage? It's a draining emotion.

    Me: DaValentine (veno), Jaceraie (mystic), etc etc etc b:chuckle
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Jacerai - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    D'aw. Well I read through it and enjoyed reading the math (good to see someone still has a head on their shoulders, mathmatics-wise). :D

    I try. b:thanks b:cute

    Though really, it's nothing complex at all =/
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    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Any skills that can be used to kill you will interrupt BB when successful." -truekossy | "...Sage archers are kind of like Mac owners. They are proud of the weirdest and most unnecessary things." -Aesthor | "We ALL know Jesus doesn't play PWI. He may have suffered a lot for humanity, but he'd NEVER punish himself this way." -Abstractive | "I approve of bananas." -SashaGray
  • ILubby - Raging Tide
    ILubby - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    One question; Was this cleric BB'ing AT ALL ?

    cause y'know if you're on your veno and cleric needs to replace BB after a pull/s.
    A veno needs to give cleric some sparkylove sometimes >_> just saying.

    If he/she was not BB'ing at all, forget i said anything. *curses morning hours*

    I always chi clerics after they BB or during it :)
    But a good cleric should never rely on veno's aid for sparks ( except for very rare situations )
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sorry but what is a cleric?

    I have not seen these illusive creatures around for some time, you think you spot one

    getting strange magical buff's when your semi AFK in arch

    but with it comes to some high level stuff there is this all new class

    called a Mystic that seems to have been taking over ever since the introduction of

    R9.

    that being said.

    you can't replace a cleric for some main things. I personally do not like playing cleric

    I have one but he's collecting dust, I also have been in most Instances with a Mystic

    or ninja invited to help others with there TT runs and BH's when i log my own Mystic

    Poor clerics, they need to have a reason to play again.
    I don't see how is that related to the original topic. But since you brought it up, well, one sentence: Not everyone is OP enough to go clericless or rely merely on mystic's heal. And no, clerics aren't rare, at least in my server.
  • ILubby - Raging Tide
    ILubby - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Kurisutina - Sanctuary wrote: »
    O.o Calm down dude. I was just pointing out my opinions of heals. As for the "Don't tell people how to cleric." Was for the original poster. XD

    "Right uses of Chromatic Healing Beam" That to me, is telling someone how to play their class.

    As I've posted everyone has their own ways of healing.

    Do not take it personal, I was not referring to any specific person in my original post. I was just simply sick of seeing repeated mistakes from the cleric side that lead to wipes. But if someone was 'healing in his own way' and that way was insufficient, then, he has to change it. If he has an attitude towards people who try to correct him, well then....he should figure out his own mistakes and correct himself. Otherwise, uninstall.

    Another thing, my post was not about preferring BB over CHB >_>

    But you said it yourself "As long as it keeps a squad a live it doesn't matter what your healing method is. Everyone has different ideas that suit them better than others. =) "
    Only as long as it keeps a squad alive, the failures I mentioned sadly did not accomplish that mission.
  • PriestRain - Raging Tide
    PriestRain - Raging Tide Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I'm so sick of wipes in Warsong on my veno because the cleric spams CHB every second when he's not BBing and cause the lure to fail! I'm sick of having to pot my *** and burn my genie chi when the barb fails to hold aggro and the cleric merely spams CHB rather than Wellspring and IH me. I'm not saying I kite or DD like a **** and no I don't have ***** gear and I don't have any problem taking an instance mob alone, but if you're a cleric and you're there and you're doing your job like a noob! Please...STOP!

    Have a nice day <3

    You can always take me Lubby! b:mischievous
    Oh and btw....>.> Next time we duel (and after 50mins of 1 duel if i win) i wont take 'lag' as an excuse... o.o ur sig!!
  • ILubby - Raging Tide
    ILubby - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    PriestRain - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You can always take me Lubby! b:mischievous
    Oh and btw....>.> Next time we duel (and after 50mins of 1 duel if i win) i wont take 'lag' as an excuse... o.o ur sig!!

    QQ I never blamed it on lag, I just forget to put plume shell back on b:laugh
  • kittikat1
    kittikat1 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I felt like this needed to be quoted again for further truth.
    ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What I hate is how clerics are so resistant to advice. there like the only class who absolutely will not listen to a word you say. Which is why I leave when there's a **** cleric in squad.

    I would happily take advice from people who do so in a friendly manner, sadly I have had so many experiences of ppl screaming insults as they go about producing a squad wipe from their own mistakes. You learn to cleric by experience and unfortunately these days ppl go from 1-100 in less than a week, but to imply that only clerics are guilty of this, or that only clerics dont take advice when offered is wrong. Power lvling is an epidemic across the board on PWI, and is not confined to the cleric class - indeed it is more likely to be EG or TB in my experience. I continue to learn as a cleric, often from ppl who play other classes as their main (in fact I ask so many questions I imagine they wld like me to shut up most days). But there is one thing I don't like and that is when ppl seem to make it their business to humilate someone who may have made a simple mistake, which may be why some ppl dont take advice. Regardless I do agree with the original post that many ppl use CHD (and other skills lol) incorrectly (it annoys me too), and when they do in a squad I am in I always try to politely suggest they focus on IH plus some wellspring (in a fix) as it will keep ppl alive (and if they tell me they didnt bother to lvl their IH sure I internally roll my eyes but I still try to be polite and impress upon them why its a core skill lol). If they dont want my advice tho, thats their choice and I dont really care - I just will unlikely squad with them again. And yes I have had many cleric fail experiences - cleric meditating in the middle of a boss fight in TT was my fave (her excuse being she forgot pots), clerics who refuse to rez the tank without payment first (poor dead kitteh had trouble trading the coins as you can imagine) and the rest of us died as fatso laughed over our cold dead bodies ofc, clerics who tell me they think purify is a fail skill as pole kills us all.... etc etc I love being a cleric and I always will, I love it because I do everything in my power to keep squads I am in alive, but there are days when that just dont work out. I dont blame anyone (well actually I am more likely to blame myself regardless), I just move on, try to offer advice, and remember to update my never squad with list. much <3 and shineyness always
  • DryadLaFey - Sanctuary
    DryadLaFey - Sanctuary Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Do NOT use CHB in Warsong BH (this is what made me write this post in the first place)
    Please please please, you are a level 100 cleric so you MUST know how heal aggro works and how luring fails when you heal the person who is luring. Therefore, when you spam CHB in Warsong and squad is pulling a runner, you aggro the whole group causing a wipe.

    I assume you mean in Metal Warsong BH, yes? In Fire I have found it quite necessary to keep my fingers over the CHB and IH hotkeys for healing spammage, especially when the DDers want to pull groups at a time, usually including at least one of those ugly tall dudes shooting AOEs.
    b:cute

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