Caster Nirvana Glitch - is it right?

gobroncos

Without going into detail it is running rampant that people have found a way around everyone needing a talisman to do a Caster Nirvana.

My question for everyone is does it go against the ToS?

We all know that with glitches that are this glaring (goons) eventually (even if too long) a work around is found and implemented (even if it isn't a good fix). I would assume at some point this one will be fixed but in the mean time what does that do for those out there that try and live by the ToS and not use these types of glitch's?

I do not say I am one side of the answer or the other I am looking for opinions and better yet a moderator that could actually give us a yes or no as to if it should be used or not.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Should it be used? Morally, no. But we know what happens in the end from goon glitch >.>

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

gobroncos wrote: »

Without going into detail it is running rampant that people have found a way around everyone needing a talisman to do a Caster Nirvana.

My question for everyone is does it go against the ToS?

We all know that with glitches that are this glaring (goons) eventually (even if too long) a work around is found and implemented (even if it isn't a good fix). I would assume at some point this one will be fixed but in the mean time what does that do for those out there that try and live by the ToS and not use these types of glitch's?

I do not say I am one side of the answer or the other I am looking for opinions and better yet a moderator that could actually give us a yes or no as to if it should be used or not.

Sure use it. We all know what will hapend. NOTHING. So yea go for it.

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver

Go ahead and use it. Nothing will happen as you can tell by the 200+ goons glitchers that still play on these servers unpunished.

gyroki

Dont talk about it - it didnt happen, it dont exist, thats it. b:shutup
Dont force admins to talk about things no1 wants to talk about, they also didnt talk about gv glitch. It didnt exist. Thats it. So lets say it like this. IF there would be any bug devs will fix it SOON. If u dont manipulate the game files and dont **** pw serves u r just using ingame mechanic. b:kiss

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Abuse it, you have nothing to lose, the GMs and Admins will take the blame for not providing a fix on time.

Have fun! b:thanks

Arenaceous - Lost City

I decided to not cheat my toon to 105, as a reward I get killed by 105 sins that I cannot even see with the new detection pots. I wonder if I will play the "Stick to the rules"-Guy once more.

Futurelord - Dreamweaver

In my honest opinion this is a glitch that should be ignored. When you consider just how easy it is to spam normal nirvana day in and day out with a total income of 5 keys a day, and considering how many people have stacked up on keys before caster nirvana came out, it seems reasonable to allow us mages to have a almost infinite (6 runs is the max if you use the same squad) nirvana run too.

You wanna stop the glitching? Stop being a greedy posh on normal runs (Glares at all aps players) and bring us magic users along. Yes I am a cleric but I still apply to this, there is a 1 cleric per aps squad rule, sometimes no cleric is needed so there.

Goonz glitch was something that put alot of players at a disadvantage in terms of leveling speed. However stealthing sins aside (that can be knocked out of stealth anyway) 4 more levels over minimum requirement for R9 is not gonna help them much.

Fair is fair, all aps users brought this upon themselves. b:laugh

Renza - Raging Tide

From what frankie said with the goons glitch, it's unfair to ban the players that exploited the glitch because it shouldn't of been in the game and it wasn't their fault that the glitch existed, so basically, go nuts!

Cytte - Harshlands

Futurelord - Dreamweaver wrote: »

In my honest opinion this is a glitch that should be ignored. When you consider just how easy it is to spam normal nirvana day in and day out with a total income of 5 keys a day, and considering how many people have stacked up on keys before caster nirvana came out, it seems reasonable to allow us mages to have a almost infinite (6 runs is the max if you use the same squad) nirvana run too.

You wanna stop the glitching? Stop being a greedy posh on normal runs (Glares at all aps players) and bring us magic users along. Yes I am a cleric but I still apply to this, there is a 1 cleric per aps squad rule, sometimes no cleric is needed so there.

Goonz glitch was something that put alot of players at a disadvantage in terms of leveling speed. However stealthing sins aside (that can be knocked out of stealth anyway) 4 more levels over minimum requirement for R9 is not gonna help them much.

Fair is fair, all aps users brought this upon themselves. b:laugh

^This

SharkAngel - Heavens Tear

Futurelord - Dreamweaver wrote: »

In my honest opinion this is a glitch that should be ignored. When you consider just how easy it is to spam normal nirvana day in and day out with a total income of 5 keys a day, and considering how many people have stacked up on keys before caster nirvana came out, it seems reasonable to allow us mages to have a almost infinite (6 runs is the max if you use the same squad) nirvana run too.

You wanna stop the glitching? Stop being a greedy posh on normal runs (Glares at all aps players) and bring us magic users along. Yes I am a cleric but I still apply to this, there is a 1 cleric per aps squad rule, sometimes no cleric is needed so there.

Goonz glitch was something that put alot of players at a disadvantage in terms of leveling speed. However stealthing sins aside (that can be knocked out of stealth anyway) 4 more levels over minimum requirement for R9 is not gonna help them much.

Fair is fair, all aps users brought this upon themselves. b:laugh

Seconding that^

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

Why even ask this questi0n?? GM's will tell y0u d0nt use it, m0ds will tell y0u f0r the sake 0f their m0d status d0nt use it....But wh0 cares? L00k at the x number 0f g00ned unbanned 105's? That sh0uld be en0ugh f0r you t0 say t0 y0urself " i care cuz?".

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

Knowing pwi, if players discover a glitch, abuse it as much as you can, in the end you will not be punished or just get a slap on the wrist *cough* goon glitch *cough*

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver

I think PWI may consider that as an exploit, and therefore bannable.

SoniMax - Sanctuary

gyroki wrote: »

Dont talk about it - it didnt happen, it dont exist, thats it. b:shutup
Dont force admins to talk about things no1 wants to talk about, they also didnt talk about gv glitch. It didnt exist. Thats it. So lets say it like this. IF there would be any bug devs will fix it SOON. If u dont manipulate the game files and dont **** pw serves u r just using ingame mechanic. b:kiss

+1 to this b:thanks

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Why do people still feel threatened by these sort of glitches. They are far less game breaking than whats currently in the CS.

gobroncos

ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why even ask this questi0n?? GM's will tell y0u d0nt use it, m0ds will tell y0u f0r the sake 0f their m0d status d0nt use it....But wh0 cares? L00k at the x number 0f g00ned unbanned 105's? That sh0uld be en0ugh f0r you t0 say t0 y0urself " i care cuz?".

To be honest I just ask the question to see what the overall opinion is on the subject. Really the purpose of the forums.

I try not to use glitches but really as almost all have said, in the end it doesn't matter who does or doesn't because nothing will happen. I love caster nirvana's and have been doing them daily since their begining including after the last x2 when drops were pretty bad and parties were hard to come by. My concern is really only what knee jerk reaction will come if/when they "fix" this.

Other then that, I loved the responses and look forward to a few more opinions on the subject b:pleased

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

They could fix this easily. Change it so that the Nirvana Talismans aren't timed, so we can stack them up like keys.

It really is unfair that on days when I don't want to do BH, like Lunar days, I can only run a Nirvana once per that day. Having recently completed a 99 key quest, my veno still has at least 300 keys... if I could stack up talismans the same way (though we get less of them), then during 2x I could go whenever I felt like it and not have to fret about needing to do BH.

Traz - Dreamweaver

If even a single one of you is for this staying and had even one single thought of the goonz glitching being unfair may you die in a fire. b:cute

DemansPsy - Lost City

Personly i don't think this glitch should be fixed, everoyne still loses a key, but squads r allowed to constantly run nv and casters can actually make coin in this game w/o having to make an aps alt, at the very least if it has to be fixed then this:

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

They could fix this easily. Change it so that the Nirvana Talismans aren't timed, so we can stack them up like keys.

at least then we can save up talismens during non 2x and spam em for 2x.

Burnout - Harshlands

WARNING:

If you are caught not using this exploit, PWI will find some way to **** you in the end, while the exploiters will be rolling in extra uncannies and raps. Do not, under any circumstances, NOT take advantage of this glitch.

You have been warned. Heed this warning, or pay the consequences.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

its a harmless glitch, like ini appearance editing.

Traz - Dreamweaver

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

its a harmless glitch, like ini appearance editing.

Your appearance in this game doesn't make you coin, doing this does. GTFO with your harmless **** it needs fixed just as badly as goonz and any other glitch/bug in this game does.

Arenaceous - Lost City

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Your appearance in this game doesn't make you coin, doing this does. GTFO with your harmless **** it needs fixed just as badly as goonz and any other glitch/bug in this game does.

And why exactly? Because *gasp* casters can now farm just as aps DDs without having to make an alt? Wtf? There's no money making monopoly to classes that can reach 5 aps anymore? Quick fix it! That smells like balance between classes! We need to surpress casters again so that we have no competition anymore and can sell our stuff to those stupid classes that have to either cs, merch or make an alt sin they probably don't even like playing. *submits tickets full of rage*

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Your appearance in this game doesn't make you coin, doing this does. GTFO with your harmless **** it needs fixed just as badly as goonz and any other glitch/bug in this game does.

its not like you just get automatic coins, you still have to use a key to get in, you still have to use resources to survive, the rewards are about the same as a regular nirvana, the limit on talismans is more likely to prevent an endless supply of subs/chips/mirages than allowing casters to run the instance multiple times. it takes much longer for a squad of casters to run caster nirvana than a squad of apsers to run regular, i can run a regular alone on my sin in about the same time as i can run caster with a squad.

its harmless, the only negative impact is that casters who actually want to run nirvana now can, instead of selling their keys, i dont see how more people actually playing and not just serving as squad fillers is a negative. so you GTFO until you can come up with a reasonable argument.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

its a harmless glitch, like ini appearance editing.

Did your IQ glitch while you were initially spawning? b:sweat

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Did your IQ glitch while you were initially spawning? b:sweat

I dont know why you love me so much, but its starting to get creepy.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

I suggest the GMs close down Nirvana next maint, and for compensation, add Uncanny and Rapture Crystals to the boutique until further notice.

It's win win for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_Ghoul_ - Lost City

its like this as long as the gooners who might or might not have advantage in game wish some call game breaking dose not matter.

its princeples what the main subject. they knew full well they could get banned for doing it.
now so many are 105 and pwi turn its blind eye only shows you would just gimp urself iff you do not abuse said glitch.

that is how i see it.

in any place if one break the rule there should be a punishment but in pwi there is non so why would you not abuse a aid glitch knowing full well pwi wont do more then say no dont cheat.

the day pwi actually do something to the abuser then i will start to think different wish i dobt will ever come.

the end.

chaoticshelly

Closing this until further inspection will be made by Frankie about this situation. If there is indeed a glitch, it isn't allowed and exploiting it is bannable. As for the GMs actions regarding this, it cannot be discussed either.

Closed.