Still Waiting

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

2 things I'm still waiting for. I doubt either will ever be resolved, but I just want to see what the mods say. For the lolz if nothing else.

1) core connect individual pk count- we were told it'd be fixed over a month ago. That obviously didn't happen, but a reason or at least acknowledgement of that fact would be nice.

2) goon glitchers punishment- I personally couldn't give a **** less about them getting banned or not, but PWI has always said that people that abuse glitches for personal gain will be banned. This of course would mean that at least 2/3 of the people on the level rankings would need to be banned, and PWI isn't going to do that. But once again, I'd just like to hear their reasoning, or at least for them to admit that they have no way of actually knowing that you're glitching unless someone was stupid enough to SS/record it...

So let's hear it mods. Why is core connect pk count still broken, and when will the goonies be banned? PWI only "fixed" the glitch, they didn't punish the rulebreakers.

krittycat

Why ask us?

Ask the admins, send in a ticket, something... but don't expect us to know.

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

I currently have an "open" ticket that was sent on 8/21/11...

I think I'll try my luck on the forums instead.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

KrittyCat wrote: »

Why ask us?

Ask the admins, send in a ticket, something... but don't expect us to know.

Can't moderators relay the message to a GM though?

You guys do it all the time when something is up, like server crashes. Most players on the forums want an answer, regardless if it is right or wrong to the players' perspective.

Ask Frankie to address these issues, even if the answer is the same, it will at least quiet down the curiosity.

krittycat

Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Can't moderators relay the message to a GM though?

You guys do it all the time when something is up, like server crashes. Most players on the forums want an answer, regardless if it is right or wrong to the players' perspective.

Ask Frankie to address these issues, even if the answer is the same, it will at least quiet down the curiosity.

*hits*

SHUSH!

Darn it, now you've said too much...

Oh well, guess I have to do my job now, and ask frankie what's goin' on...

b:chuckle

EDIT: Looks like I'll have to ask him tomorrow. He's apparently already gone home for the night.b:sweat

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

KrittyCat wrote: »

EDIT: Looks like I'll have to ask him tomorrow. He's apparently already gone home for the night.b:sweat

Just make sure you ask early tomorrow so he can get an answer before the weekend. We all know how talkative PWE is during the weekends b:shutup

Knownase - Heavens Tear

#AwesomeSauce b:victory


Freakin' Twitter.....

Kweer - Sanctuary

I'd love to know what the punishment will be for all those who abused the goon glitch as well. As a player of PWI for 3 years, I did not abuse the glitch (I could have...on all my chars). It irritates me that I could have taken advantage of the situation and not get punished for it, but instead I did the good little gamer boi thing and respected the ToS.

PWE, don't fail me now on this one....

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Bump for great justice.

Shadowphreak - Lost City

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

2) goon glitchers punishment- I personally couldn't give a **** less about them getting banned or not, but PWI has always said that people that abuse glitches for personal gain will be banned. This of course would mean that at least 2/3 of the people on the level rankings would need to be banned, and PWI isn't going to do that. But once again, I'd just like to hear their reasoning, or at least for them to admit that they have no way of actually knowing that you're glitching unless someone was stupid enough to SS/record it...

So let's hear it mods. Why is core connect pk count still broken, and when will the goonies be banned? PWI only "fixed" the glitch, they didn't punish the rulebreakers.

I believe it was frankie, or one of the other mods, that said now that the glitch is fixed, the next step is to deal with the abusers. who knows what that means.

Think of the problems it has, as I mentioned before. There are really only two options.

1. Remove experience they received from dragons. I'm guess most likely they will be brought down to the 9x levels.

- These guys spent hundreds of gold on end game gear that they can no longer use, so they'll be without gear/weapons, and its bound so it cant go anywhere. This would cause an insane amount of crying in the forums, and since these are probably all ALTS, their mains and other ALTS (Avg person probably has 6+ alts) would stop playing all together, and you'd loose half of the player base.

- Think of all the money these guys made selling 3rd boss. Do you return that too? Impossible.

2. Banning them.
- For how long? This does nothing as the majority of them are ALTS. They dont care.

Really there isn't anything that can be done unfortunately. Option 1 WOULD work if PWI made announcements on the game splash screen that glitching 3rd boss results in ban and/or removal. However since their was no official announcement, it's fubar.

They'll just let it go, and it will be forgotten by next year after all the distraction from the snowmen/xmas and x2 drops/exp over the holidays.

I'm 70% from lvl 102. It takes forever! But at least I did it grinding not glitching.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

2 things I'm still waiting for. I doubt either will ever be resolved, but I just want to see what the mods say. For the lolz if nothing else.

1) core connect individual pk count- we were told it'd be fixed over a month ago. That obviously didn't happen, but a reason or at least acknowledgement of that fact would be nice.

2) goon glitchers punishment- I personally couldn't give a **** less about them getting banned or not, but PWI has always said that people that abuse glitches for personal gain will be banned. This of course would mean that at least 2/3 of the people on the level rankings would need to be banned, and PWI isn't going to do that. But once again, I'd just like to hear their reasoning, or at least for them to admit that they have no way of actually knowing that you're glitching unless someone was stupid enough to SS/record it...

So let's hear it mods. Why is core connect pk count still broken, and when will the goonies be banned? PWI only "fixed" the glitch, they didn't punish the rulebreakers.

At least we learn something. Just DO any glitch what you will find. You will never be punish for glitching. b:victory From now I'm gonna cheat game whenever it's possible.

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

KrittyCat wrote: »

Why ask us?

Ask the admins, send in a ticket, something... but don't expect us to know.

Didn't you get the memo? The latest patch also included a crystal ball for all mods, so that they could answer all of our questions, at any time.

Check your skill list. b:cute

Lenestro - Sanctuary

honestly nerfing a lvl 105 to lvl 90 would be like a 30 minute inconvenience of getting back to 101.

Chadric - Heavens Tear

i'd love to know how in the hell u get from 90 to 101 in 30 minutes, without glitching... not that u can anymore LOL

Bellarie - Raging Tide

While you wait for all of eternity for a vague answer of lies that will never come, feel free to drool over what my veno would look like if male venomancer were an option

You know you want to

snufalufaguss

Why do people want goon glitchers to get banned? This game is not bringing in that many new players. Ban all the goon glitchers and you wont have many here to play the game or fund it.

Key word being fund. Almost every cash shopper I know is 103-105 now.

Kweer - Sanctuary

snufalufaguss wrote: »

Why do people want goon glitchers to get banned? This game is not bringing in that many new players. Ban all the goon glitchers and you wont have many here to play the game or fund it.

Key word being fund. Almost every cash shopper I know is 103-105 now.

Not like it matters anyway. Most of those who glitched to 105 have absolutely nothing to do anyway, barely contribute anything to this game, and will most likely leave the game in udder boredom anyway.

Thats right. I said udder. Whatcha wanna do, fight about it?

Still waiting, btw......its the weekend, so no chance of getting anything until Monday.

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

snufalufaguss wrote: »

Why do people want goon glitchers to get banned? This game is not bringing in that many new players. Ban all the goon glitchers and you wont have many here to play the game or fund it.

Key word being fund. Almost every cash shopper I know is 103-105 now.

I don't want to see the glitchers banned. I want to see this "fix" reverted and the glitch legalized so that all can benefit from it without fear of potential action on their account.

ponyduck

imo, I think it's pretty much useless to try to attempt any kind of "justice" now. It's just not gonna happen, for reasons mentioned earlier.

My big problem is WHY DID PWI LET THE GLITCH GO ON SO LONG AFTER IT WAS
DISCOVERED?!!

The minute it was apparent to them what was happening, steps should have been taken immediately to stop it. But it went on for how long? . . . I don't even know.

In my eyes, this whole fiasco makes PWI appear either a) incompetent, or b) unethical.

It feels as if there is a huge disconnect between the devs & the NA servers. It's as if any problems/issues get sent via the proverbial slow boat to China, are mulled over & discussed and a resolution decided upon; then any fix gets sent back by the same route. There is definitely not a feeling of "hands-on" and attentiveness that I see on other games.

Don't get me wrong--I love this game, and am in awe so often at what those computer geeks can accomplish just by making something like this game work at all. But by this token, they are good enough to have handled this in a more timely & professional manner.

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

I really don't care if the players got lv105 fast because of the glitch, It personaly doesn't affect my game, but I care when they say "we found a glitch and who uses It will suffer a punishment".

What they will do It's up to them, but they should do something or they will star to lose more and more the trust of the players.

rollerpig

This thread goes hand in hand with this song
http://youtu.be/v-V-e7Wa3L8

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

rollerpig wrote: »

This thread goes hand in hand with this song
http://youtu.be/v-V-e7Wa3L8

Though that you was talking about the video of the person that finished the Youtube 2x!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHHIz0gIVbM&feature=feedf

snufalufaguss

Kweer - Sanctuary wrote: »

Not like it matters anyway. Most of those who glitched to 105 have absolutely nothing to do anyway, barely contribute anything to this game, and will most likely leave the game in udder boredom anyway.

They $contribute$ quite a bit actually. That is why they are not banned.

Zarni - Dreamweaver

How to "punish" the glitch abusers without banning anyone or making people who didn't use the glitch feel cheated:

Change the exp scale from levels 102-105.

-Change 102-103 from 535 million exp to around 325 million exp.
-Change 103-104 from 1.34 billion exp to around 450 million exp.
-Change 104-105 from 1.75 billion exp to around 550 million exp.


(maybe also 101-102 should be reduced by 1/2, that's where the ridiculousness of the exponential increases becomes painful)

This will fix the whole issue. People will be able to reach cap level using legal methods. The people who glitched to 105 can still play with all their gear and levels, but their advantage over players who did not use 3rd boss glitch will decrease. These amounts of exp reduction won't result in huge floods of 105s, but won't prohibit those who are actually motivated from reaching 105. Cash shop sales of hyper stones and charms will continue, as people run hyper-fc and aoe grind.

I give this idea to Perfect World for free.

(If, however, you wish to hire me as a systems analyst or consultant, I charge very reasonable fees and am adept at simplifying overly complex corporate systems.) b:victory

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Annoying bump of awesomeness to +1 my post count.

Alasen - Heavens Tear

Zarni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

How to "punish" the glitch abusers without banning anyone or making people who didn't use the glitch feel cheated:

Change the exp scale from levels 102-105.

-Change 102-103 from 535 million exp to around 325 million exp.
-Change 103-104 from 1.34 billion exp to around 450 million exp.
-Change 104-105 from 1.75 billion exp to around 550 million exp.

That's what it should've been in the first place., Too bad these devs have no damn common sense.

FeelHarmony - Sanctuary

Bump! I'm waiting as well...

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

Falcobump!!

condo2009

DICE and EA have taken measures to fix a glitching problem. The Twitter page stated, "This week, we've banned hundreds of offending accounts and have stats-wiped accounts for exploiting (such as boosting)." It added in a later Twitter post, "We'll continue to be monitoring and taking action against the minority that doesn't respect the integrity of the game."


PWI, take notice

Amencat - Sanctuary

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

2 things I'm still waiting for. I doubt either will ever be resolved, but I just want to see what the mods say. For the lolz if nothing else.

1) core connect individual pk count- we were told it'd be fixed over a month ago. That obviously didn't happen, but a reason or at least acknowledgement of that fact would be nice.

2) goon glitchers punishment- I personally couldn't give a **** less about them getting banned or not, but PWI has always said that people that abuse glitches for personal gain will be banned. This of course would mean that at least 2/3 of the people on the level rankings would need to be banned, and PWI isn't going to do that. But once again, I'd just like to hear their reasoning, or at least for them to admit that they have no way of actually knowing that you're glitching unless someone was stupid enough to SS/record it...

So let's hear it mods. Why is core connect pk count still broken, and when will the goonies be banned? PWI only "fixed" the glitch, they didn't punish the rulebreakers.

so you wait... and wait... and wait .....


When you was young
core counted pk killing numbers
And killing was not just for fun
Those days are gone

Livin' alone
you think of all the victims yo've known
When you start pwi now
Nobody's there

All by yourself
you cant wait
All by yourself
Anylonger

Hard to be sure
Sometimes you feel so insecure
And kill so distant and obscure
Remains the cure

All by yourself
Don't wanna wait
All by yourself
Anylonger

All by yourself
Don't wanna live
All by yourself
Anylonger

All by yourself
Don't wanna wait
Oh

Don't wanna wait
By yourself, by yourself
Anymore

By yourself
Anymore
Oh
All by yourself
Don't wanna wait


b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle

Knownase - Heavens Tear

This is ridiculous.

Hey GMs, stop avoiding.