Ancient Emblem and Ring Engraving

breeeezy87
breeeezy87 Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2012 in General Discussion
So as we've seen with the new cosmo packs, they frequently give ancient emblems use for two levels of ring engraving. The second level of new ring engravement which requires three Ancient Emblem's, says it has a chance of adding 1-2 stats. My question is, has anyone actually got 2 stats added, or is it another pwi typo? Screenshots of rings with 2 added stats not speculation please and thankyou.
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  • Celestyna - Heavens Tear
    Celestyna - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    breeeezy87 wrote: »
    So as we've seen with the new cosmo packs, they frequently give ancient emblems use for two levels of ring engraving. The second level of new ring engravement which requires three Ancient Emblem's, says it has a chance of adding 1-2 stats. My question is, has anyone actually got 2 stats added, or is it another pwi typo? Screenshots of rings with 2 added stats not speculation please and thankyou.

    friend has one with two stats, its two of the bad ones though. there is a 5% chance to get two stats
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  • breeeezy87
    breeeezy87 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I've heard as well that it's a 5% chance, which would translate into and 20:1 chance. I know a few ppl in my server who have rolled 20x, and surely 100s of other rolls since this has been available, yet no one in server with 2 stats. Either the odds aren't 5% or it just doesn't happen. Screenshots of 2 please :)
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited November 2011
    breeeezy87 wrote: »
    I've heard as well that it's a 5% chance, which would translate into and 20:1 chance. I know a few ppl in my server who have rolled 20x, and surely 100s of other rolls since this has been available, yet no one in server with 2 stats. Either the odds aren't 5% or it just doesn't happen. Screenshots of 2 please :)

    Technically incorrect. Each time you do the engraving process, you have a 5% chance of getting 2 adds on the ring. These odds don't combine as you make more, meaning that every time you re-do a ring, you have a 95% chance of getting only one stat.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Technically incorrect. Each time you do the engraving process, you have a 5% chance of getting 2 adds on the ring. These odds don't combine as you make more, meaning that every time you re-do a ring, you have a 95% chance of getting only one stat.
    I think it's 19:1 chance. If the chance would be 1% it would be 99:1 chance. Or maybe I'm wrong. :-)
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  • HardToThink - Lost City
    HardToThink - Lost City Posts: 967 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Vietxtcguy on lost city has +11 strength and +10 dex on one of his rings.
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  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    A friend of mine on the HT server showed me that they rolled once and got 2 stats. Their first and only time. However; they got 2 of the crappiest stats. Pdef -(something)% and Wood Dmg Reduction of 3%. I saw it with my own eyes, but because it wasn't my ring I did not screen shot it. I think the odds of this happening the first and only time they did it was very very rare.

    Right now the emblems are too much for even the smallest cash shopper to afford in any mass. Which pretty much leaves out the non-csing community. I am hoping once the new wears off that the price of them will go down.

    Since you started this thread, I am wondering though how much they are on every server? In HT I've seen them from 2 mil to 7 mil. Depending on the method of trying to obtain them. The regular cash shoppers trying to buy them or someone who is just trying to make a quick buck etc...
  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Vietxtcguy on lost city has +11 strength and +10 dex on one of his rings.

    I wonder how hard that was? At the current price on HT server, it would cost you the amount of a +10 vit stone to reroll stats more than 2 times. I also have to wonder what this is going to do to the price of all the rings. If people treat them with pricing the same way as the stones.. a ring with a +10 vit added would be 30 mil at the least.
  • breeeezy87
    breeeezy87 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I think it's 19:1 chance. If the chance would be 1% it would be 99:1 chance. Or maybe I'm wrong. :-)

    You're right, was just a quick estimate 100/5-1=19, anyways 19:1 is better odds than 20:1, so doesn't effect the lack of 2 stat rings.
  • qqemilyqq
    qqemilyqq Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    A friend of mine on the HT server showed me that they rolled once and got 2 stats. Their first and only time. However; they got 2 of the crappiest stats. Pdef -(something)% and Wood Dmg Reduction of 3%. I saw it with my own eyes, but because it wasn't my ring I did not screen shot it. I think the odds of this happening the first and only time they did it was very very rare.

    Right now the emblems are too much for even the smallest cash shopper to afford in any mass. Which pretty much leaves out the non-csing community. I am hoping once the new wears off that the price of them will go down.

    Since you started this thread, I am wondering though how much they are on every server? In HT I've seen them from 2 mil to 7 mil. Depending on the method of trying to obtain them. The regular cash shoppers trying to buy them or someone who is just trying to make a quick buck etc...

    Ancient Emblems on DW server can be bought from cashshops players etc. for 70k-200k tops
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited November 2011
    I think it's 19:1 chance. If the chance would be 1% it would be 99:1 chance. Or maybe I'm wrong. :-)
    breeeezy87 wrote: »
    You're right, was just a quick estimate 100/5-1=19, anyways 19:1 is better odds than 20:1, so doesn't effect the lack of 2 stat rings.

    Not my point.

    I am stating that the number of times you roll has no effect and can't accurately show a percentage like that. You aren't guaranteed that one out of every twenty rolls will give you 2 stats. Instead, you can guarantee that when you roll one, you have a 95% chance of getting 1 stat, and 5% of getting 2. Those odds reset for every single ring you roll.
  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    qqemilyqq wrote: »
    Ancient Emblems on DW server can be bought from cashshops players etc. for 70k-200k tops

    FFS.. seriously ? Ancient emblems on sanct go from 6 to 10 freaking MIL!
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited November 2011
    FFS.. seriously ? Ancient emblems on sanct go from 6 to 10 freaking MIL!

    Dreamweaver is home to a LOT of cash-shopper, to be honest.

    And when I say a lot, I mean a LOT.
  • qqemilyqq
    qqemilyqq Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    FFS.. seriously ? Ancient emblems on sanct go from 6 to 10 freaking MIL!

    Yes no lies LV a toon to atleast lv5 buy a tele WTB Ancient Emblem, get replies of 70-200k each, or simply make a lv1 brand new toon and watch world chat for a bit 'WTS Ancient Emblem 70k, 120k, 180k' hell even Cosmos the fairy Unicorn is 40m (sum have sold for 80-90m but u can find it for 40m) and yes like Kritty said DW is nothing but Cash players u may find maybe 1/10 players that play the game as intended, the other 9 are catshops. b:angry damn arch lag.

    sorry wanted to edit this post a catshopper by the name of COMEnGETit sells Emblems 150k each I repeat 150k (150,000) the same price as a Flawless Shard. but all I can say to u Anima is Sanc is scamming. cashwhores or not prices need to drop on this whack a$$ game, health insurenece don't even cost this much wtf?
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  • CRYSTY_III - Sanctuary
    CRYSTY_III - Sanctuary Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    --when it comes about chances in pwi you have to add a lot zeros in front of a number .. 0.0000007% chance b:laugh (you don't know which is the real percentage in server and may vary from patch to patch ;) ( even the fb bosses doesnt drop anymore at same rate like in 2008 -its worse ) :(
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  • Northern - Dreamweaver
    Northern - Dreamweaver Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I see people trying to buy for 200k an I see people selling for 5-6 mill on dreamweavers...so not sure how you got those half baked figures...

    If so Ill buy everyone of them for sale just give cords....I repeat buying everyone of them under 500k that u can find.
  • Celestyna - Heavens Tear
    Celestyna - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    A friend of mine on the HT server showed me that they rolled once and got 2 stats. Their first and only time. However; they got 2 of the crappiest stats. Pdef -(something)% and Wood Dmg Reduction of 3%. I saw it with my own eyes, but because it wasn't my ring I did not screen shot it. I think the odds of this happening the first and only time they did it was very very rare.

    We are talking about the same person I bet b:laugh
    he has -3% Wood damage Reduction and -1% pdef
    I could ask him to link it again to screen shot it tomorrow but I dont really care about it that much to do so.
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  • qqemilyqq
    qqemilyqq Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I see people trying to buy for 200k an I see people selling for 5-6 mill on dreamweavers...so not sure how you got those half baked figures...

    If so Ill buy everyone of them for sale just give cords....I repeat buying everyone of them under 500k that u can find.

    ello' dumbass heres a few cords of all shops selling them (NOT BUYING) not rocket science to pay attention to world chat and look around in shops, as said before DW is the biggest cashwhore server in the history of PWE, meaning we get way more ancient emblems (items) a lot easier then the other servers, example RT may get a total of 1m emblems thru-out entire server, resulting in it being a rarity so therefore prices are **** high, now DW we prolly get 10m emblems, we intensify the hell outta everything, every shop in arch will be selling these emblems soon, therefore not so rare, and as Leader of a TWing Faction (Emergence) we have a high lv guild base and a few of our members have successfully reforged to Awaken gears and also spend merit on Emblems (which btw if purchased from base they are still able to be traded thru-out the server) again resulting in a overly high abundance of the said Item

    XeLiT (526,651) S> x47 @ 120k each

    omgashop (527,652) S> x12 200k each

    SellEvent (527,654) S> x29 200k each

    Railkit (527,651) S> x7 3m each

    Marlboro (525, 649) S> x14 200k each

    ItzAshop (521,599) S> x24 175k each

    FlyRanger (517,611) S> x9 8m each

    atm....Worldchatter - DaemonSpade S> x3 150k each
  • carwoodlipton
    carwoodlipton Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Does the same percentage method apply to opening packs?
  • Mayatheia - Heavens Tear
    Mayatheia - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    rofl on HT cat shops are buying for 3mil b:chuckle
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  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    qqemilyqq wrote: »
    Ancient Emblems on DW server can be bought from cashshops players etc. for 70k-200k tops

    Well if people would quit being so ancy on every server, the price would go down.
    FFS.. seriously ? Ancient emblems on sanct go from 6 to 10 freaking MIL!

    Its just people trying to capitalize on the rich while they can. As I said before, give it time the price will go down. The more supply, the less demand. They need to realize that it would just be cheaper to buy a +10 vit stone than to roll rings at this point and not many people want to do it that way.
  • breeeezy87
    breeeezy87 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    qqemilyqq wrote: »
    ello' dumbass heres a few cords of all shops selling them (NOT BUYING) not rocket science to pay attention to world chat and look around in shops, as said before DW is the biggest cashwhore server in the history of PWE, meaning we get way more ancient emblems (items) a lot easier then the other servers, example RT may get a total of 1m emblems thru-out entire server, resulting in it being a rarity so therefore prices are **** high, now DW we prolly get 10m emblems, we intensify the hell outta everything, every shop in arch will be selling these emblems soon, therefore not so rare, and as Leader of a TWing Faction (Emergence) we have a high lv guild base and a few of our members have successfully reforged to Awaken gears and also spend merit on Emblems (which btw if purchased from base they are still able to be traded thru-out the server) again resulting in a overly high abundance of the said Item

    XeLiT (526,651) S> x47 @ 120k each

    omgashop (527,652) S> x12 200k each

    SellEvent (527,654) S> x29 200k each

    Railkit (527,651) S> x7 3m each

    Marlboro (525, 649) S> x14 200k each

    ItzAshop (521,599) S> x24 175k each

    FlyRanger (517,611) S> x9 8m each

    atm....Worldchatter - DaemonSpade S> x3 150k each

    Ummm one of those shops listed as selling is mine rofl, and never have i sold or bought any from it. And there's never any in shops, only place im getting them is from WC for minimum 1m, and there definitely isn't an overabundance of them on DW.
  • Northern - Dreamweaver
    Northern - Dreamweaver Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Yeah an malrboro is in my faction and Im calling bs..
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    edited July 2012
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    As Krit stated, it's a 5% chance PER roll to get 2 adds. The odds to get it is 1 in 20 rolls basically, but that is the statistical numbers. There's no guarantee of it due to chance. It's just like rolling a Tier 2/3 Nirvana weapon.
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    AshenSkies - Heavens Tear Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    As Krit stated, it's a 5% chance PER roll to get 2 adds. The odds to get it is 1 in 20 rolls basically, but that is the statistical numbers. There's no guarantee of it due to chance. It's just like rolling a Tier 2/3 Nirvana weapon.

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  • teenasacred
    teenasacred Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    lol Maybe, the freely available supply of them on Dreamweaver for sale, may be indicative of the amount of fail's to get any decent stats on engraving - thus sell for quick coin.
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