Doubt in two skills

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

EIvemage - Dreamweaver

Yami_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

leveling bloodpaint only increases its duration. i think its 10 mins at lvl 1 and 30 mins at lvl 10. i agree leveling is awaste of spirit and coins, i still suggest getting it to 5 (20 mins) or so, so you dont have to rebuff that often.

chill of the deep is very usefull when using aoes but tbh i hardly ever use it.

im a pve sin with all skills on 10 or demon and unless ur quite rich i suggest u dont level most skills.

those are the ones id level:

rib strike - level 10
earthen rift- lvl 10 (aoe)
subsea strike - lvl 10 (aoe)
power dash - lvl 10 ( if ur 5 aps, otherwise i wouldnt lvl it at all)
dagger devotion and cat like treat - lvl 10, passive skills (sharp observer is useless unless u pk so dont lvl it, unless you pk obviously lol)
focused mind - lvl 10
tidal protection - lvl 10
bloodpaint - lvl 5
wolf emblem - lvl 10
inner harmony - lvl 10
windpush- lvl 10
maze steps - lvl 10
shadow jump - lvl 10, to jump further

i suggest u leave the other skills at lvl 1 as you most likely wont be using them at all/very often.

Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver

Yami_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

bloodpaint: lvl it a bit when you have coin and spirit so it can last sometimes but no need to max it until you get the sage/demon version.

chill of the depth: its not very useful at your lvl. you use it when you either aoe, skill spam or wants to drop your aggro stealing. i started lvling mine when my sin was lvl 82(which was not long ago) and its just lvl 2.

_Perses_ - Lost City

Yami_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

Bloodpaint:

This skill, until you reach Sage (Good) or Demon (Evil) culti levels, isn't worth leveling too much. Since you are using a sin as your main, until you get the sage or demon book for it just leave it at like lvl 5 or 6. This will put the duration (which is what increases upon upgrading the skill, lvl 1 is around 10 minutes and lvl 10 is 30 minutes. Lvl 11 (Demon/Sage) is 1 hour) up to around 20-25 minutes. Which will be more than ample time to kill what you need and not have to worry about it.

Chill of the Deep:

Well this skill is hard to say....Mainly because the purpose of the skill is to increase attack level at the cost of APS (Attack Per Second, or Attack Rate (AR)). This allows you to do a marginal % more of damage (i.e. you get 10 attack levels your skills or auto-attacks do 10% more damage from the attack level boost. But this does suffer a diminishing return effect like the defense levels...but you will learn about those at a later time).
So if I was you, I would put Chill of the Deep (CotD) at lvl 1 or 2 based on the amount of coin and spirit you have to spare. This will allow you to do a bit more damage with your AoE's, but it isn't really useful until you reach a level were you can get into frost squads.




That is about it for those two skills, also what EIvemage said about skills is very correct. Though the order is based on what you want to level first or think is most important.

Sereneai - Dreamweaver

Yami_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

as others have said, you are pretty much on track.

Levels in bloodpaint increase time, from 10 mins at lvl 1 to 1 hour at lvl 10. I wouldn't bother leveling it past one, unless you have the sage/daemon skillbook ready to learn.

lvl 10 takes over 400mp, so it really has no advantage except that you don't have to buff as often (and BM/barb/seek appreciate the long buff, but eh, w/e)

Chill i would put 1-2 levels in for use in aggro control. since the increase in power doesn't offset the loss in APS, so you deal less damage....which equals less aggro.

mine is level 10, and i use it frequently for aoe, but I have fail aps to begin with b:surrender and lots of practice getting into and out of it fast b:laugh wouldn't recommend it to most people.

_Perses_ - Lost City

Sereneai - Dreamweaver wrote: »

as others have said, you are pretty much on track.

Levels in bloodpaint increase time, from 10 mins at lvl 1 to 1 hour at lvl 11. I wouldn't bother leveling it past one, unless you have the sage/daemon skillbook ready to learn.

lvl 10 takes over 400mp, so it really has no advantage except that you don't have to buff as often (and BM/barb/seek appreciate the long buff, but eh, w/e)

Chill i would put 1-2 levels in for use in aggro control. since the increase in power doesn't offset the loss in APS, so you deal less damage....which equals less aggro.

mine is level 10, and i use it frequently for aoe, but I have fail aps to begin with b:surrender and lots of practice getting into and out of it fast b:laugh wouldn't recommend it to most people.

error fixed in bold :P


but yeah, CotD is probably one of the most tricky skills for timing use
It's either use it and do more damage but less hits so less aggro, but mobs dead quicker if you spam skills....or not use and aps to death...but ehhh....it does get better in later levels once you achieve more APS and can afford to put it on and still be at a good aps level (some sins have claimed to be able to be 3.33 with it on...no ****ing clue how XD)

Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver

(some sins have claimed to be able to be 3.33 with it on...no ****ing clue how XD)

b:surrender claw sin is the answer to that question

_Perses_ - Lost City

Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:surrender claw sin is the answer to that question

Ohgawd then they need it @_@

Olbaze - Sanctuary

_Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »

Ohgawd then they need it @_@

Anyone who goes clawsin with Chill of the Deep is an idiot. Any decent APS you'd have with Chill of the Deep and Deicide would get you a decent APS with daggers. Heck, 5 aps with Chill of the Deep means you have Demon Chill of the Deep and all pieces of -interval.

Massad - Harshlands

Yami_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

bp useless???? Riiiight... Like others have said its about time. The longer you have it the less amount of time you have to worry about it. Also if you go sage and get the skill book you have extra healing potential.

Chill useless??? This is where I ask for the harshlands and lost city pk sins to speak up... Do you use chill and if so what lvl is it? Almost every pk sin I talk to says chill is on all the time and it is maxed... With a jones blessing it gives a minimum of 60 att lvl at lvl 10. Higher if the sin has used DoTs. Some are pushing att lvl past 110.

Now I am no good at math but I am pretty sure Olba or Empu or one of those people will come in after me and tear my comment to shreads with a bunch of numbers and **** that just makes my trigger finger twitch at when I look at there posts....

Seriously I hate math and if I have to buy another pc because I shot mine again trying to figure all that **** out I am gonna be pissed b:surrender

Massad - Harshlands

Sereneai - Dreamweaver wrote: »

as others have said, you are pretty much on track.

Levels in bloodpaint increase time, from 10 mins at lvl 1 to 1 hour at lvl 10. I wouldn't bother leveling it past one, unless you have the sage/daemon skillbook ready to learn.

lvl 10 takes over 400mp, so it really has no advantage except that you don't have to buff as often (and BM/barb/seek appreciate the long buff, but eh, w/e)

Chill i would put 1-2 levels in for use in aggro control. since the increase in power doesn't offset the loss in APS, so you deal less damage....which equals less aggro.

mine is level 10, and i use it frequently for aoe, but I have fail aps to begin with b:surrender and lots of practice getting into and out of it fast b:laugh wouldn't recommend it to most people.

Sry for dble post... But here is something you should never try... lvl 10 chill+Sage spark+ lvl 10 Inner harmony + lvl 10 headhunt on a really tough bossb:chuckle

I took aggro from the demon aps guys, and the barb all at the same timeb:surrender

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

Since AOE isn't part of my day I never though about that b:chuckle

My lv is the same lv of my avatar, this is my only char =(

Thanks for the replies.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Yup, you won't really -need- to level BP and CotD until later levels.

You'd want to start leveling chill when you start your FC runs, as it'll help in DPH for the instance.

I leveled BP towards the end of the skills that weren't level 10 yet. I like demon chill, it's still pretty decent at dph, but lowers your dps by a lot.

Empu - Sanctuary

@ Massad : I barely touch the figures on my keyboard o.o But if my posts frustrate you, better not read them... I'd feal bad if you got a heart attack cause of me b:surrender

Yami_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yo! There are two skills that I'm unable to find a pratical use at all, please tell to me "look naab, you could work with this skill like that..." lol.

Bloodpaint
Unless It is for God and Evil versions I don't see a reason for level this skill at my lv, or It have a hidden effect that doesn't appear in the description?

Chill of the Deep
I failed totally in see a use for this skill, why should I level that?

Thanks.

Like said above, bp just increases the duration. So you basicly lvl it for the convenience of not rebuffing all the time, or for others/alts to benefit from it longer. Needless to say it's not a priority to lvl it

Chill is a great skill imo. It's meant, imo at least, to increase the damage of your skills. There are many situations where dph is more usefull then 1 target dps. You can turn it on and off (unlike other buffs), which makes it such a usefull skill. However, I got to agree chill is not one of your main priorities. In the 50s there is so much to lvl, but so little spirit... You got to make choices on which skills to lvl 1st.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver wrote: »

chill of the depth: its not very useful at your lvl. you use it when you either aoe, skill spam or wants to drop your aggro stealing. i started lvling mine when my sin was lvl 82(which was not long ago) and its just lvl 2.

It drives me nuts when sins use CotD to aggro modify. It is such a noob thing to do when you have better options and CotD hurts your chi gain. Instead, avoid aggro by assisting the tank rather than going DD nuts. Keep rib strike on and do things like interupt using dagger throw and throatcut. Subsea for others peoples DD. Subsea and Throatcut both take chi to attack so slowing your attack rate down isn't... awesome. Just learn to manage aggro otherways.



Bloodpaint is worth leveling to buff friends and if you have a second account, your own alts. Knowing they have reliable paint for 30-60 minutes is nice.

As people have said, CotD is to boost your skills. CotD affects your attack rate but has no affect on your skills as you cast them, so if you are only skill spamming its an attack boost without any speed reduction. The best use I've found is the halls in FCC for zhenning.

Traz - Dreamweaver

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

It drives me nuts when sins use CotD to aggro modify. It is such a noob thing to do when you have better options and CotD hurts your chi gain. Instead, avoid aggro by assisting the tank rather than going DD nuts. Keep rib strike on and do things like interupt using dagger throw and throatcut. Subsea for others peoples DD. Subsea and Throatcut both take chi to attack so slowing your attack rate down isn't... awesome. Just learn to manage aggro otherways.



Bloodpaint is worth leveling to buff friends and if you have a second account, your own alts. Knowing they have reliable paint for 30-60 minutes is nice.

As people have said, CotD is to boost your skills. CotD affects your attack rate but has no affect on your skills as you cast them, so if you are only skill spamming its an attack boost without any speed reduction. The best use I've found is the halls in FCC for zhenning.

Delta/FCC/9 Trials for CotD.

Typhyse - Sanctuary

Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Delta/FCC/9 Trials for CotD.

+1
Finally went on my first RB since Beta over a year ago. Used just a level 5 or so CoTD and I regretted not having it higher.