WTB 10800 Uncannies, 2700 raps...NOT

victor1337
victor1337 Posts: 27 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
So your all excited at the prospect of making ascended rank 9 gear and can't wait to log in to find out what you need to do...DONT BOTHER.

Turns out they stripped wedding candies out of the formula, so you need 1200 uncanny and 300 raptures for each piece of armor and 4800 uncanny and 1200 raps for the weap.

At a generous 5 drops per Niv run that's somewhere north of 2000 runs..or about two years .

Guess what will be going on sale in the next few weeks at around 100 gold a pop...Summerwind Tokens (you read it here first)..

Oh and a laughed when i looked at the r8 reforge for existing R8 with pimped gears, gl getting those 400 chien stones...

Ring engraving, seems like the only place to get the materials is out of the new packs..opened 130 of the new packs and got precisely one best, one diamond of tiger, rest tokens (from gold I had on dw server from a while ago), so don't cross your fingers on seeing decent rings anytime soon.

Faction base doesn't apply to a lot of people as their faction doesn't have a base...

New crazy stone is ok, 480k exp not to be sniffed at ( 0.2% at my level..)

Order of Justice is 520k but guess what? You have to kill the party quest mobs so may as well party up and do a party quest while your there...

Nice update but it's very obvious no one writing this game actually ever tries to play it.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    victor1337 wrote: »
    Nice update but it's very obvious no one writing this game actually ever tries to play it.

    It's been that way for quite a while now...
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It's been that way for quite a while now...

    Since when has a chinese dev every played our game?
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  • Magicsaber - Dreamweaver
    Magicsaber - Dreamweaver Posts: 727 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Since when has a chinese dev every played our game?

    They play using their custom armor and weapon.

    GMs have same.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Since when has a chinese dev every played our game?

    About the time Lost Empire came out. That expansion was definitely done by the original development team who actually played the game.

    That was the first and only real content expansion. Age of Spirits... not really an expansion, but I'm not sure the original developers had anything to do with it.

    I don't consider TB/EG character expansions to be content. They both brought very little content to the game and even their 1-19 quests and quest areas were skimped on.

    Calling this new series of patches a content expansion is laughable. Half of it is stuff that should have been done ages ago or necessary fixing. The other random stuff is just that.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Where is my wedding candy trade b:cry
    That was actually reasonable for the benefit you get. This value is not.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    About the time Lost Empire came out. That expansion was definitely done by the original development team who actually played the game.

    That was the first and only real content expansion. Age of Spirits... not really an expansion, but I'm not sure the original developers had anything to do with it.

    I don't consider TB/EG character expansions to be content. They both brought very little content to the game and even their 1-19 quests and quest areas were skimped on.

    Calling this new series of patches a content expansion is laughable. Half of it is stuff that should have been done ages ago or necessary fixing. The other random stuff is just that.

    Unfortunately our marketing team has single handed roflstomped our game balance. China is at least semi-balanced still due to lack of r9/r8 sales and pack sales. Thus everyone here wants balance, but balancing our game means unbalancing theirs.
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  • Aizza - Harshlands
    Aizza - Harshlands Posts: 719 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Unfortunately our marketing team has single handed roflstomped our game balance. China is at least semi-balanced still due to lack of r9/r8 sales and pack sales. Thus everyone here wants balance, but balancing our game means unbalancing theirs.

    BALANCE -- is not a realistic expectation when profit is concerned. Competition is, and offsetting the balance is how to spur competition... which lends to more profit.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    BALANCE -- is not a realistic expectation when profit is concerned. Competition is, and offsetting the balance is how to spur competition... which lends to more profit.

    Funny china is balanced and PROFITS....ijs
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  • Bloody_Evga - Sanctuary
    Bloody_Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Where is my wedding candy trade b:cry
    That was actually reasonable for the benefit you get. This value is not.

    tbh, i am kinda happy with the fact you can't get it from wedding candies. It makes nirvana actually still farmable instead of providing everything through cash shopping.
  • pennywise29
    pennywise29 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    victor1337 wrote: »
    So your all excited at the prospect of making ascended rank 9 gear and can't wait to log in to find out what you need to do...DONT BOTHER.

    Turns out they stripped wedding candies out of the formula, so you need 1200 uncanny and 300 raptures for each piece of armor and 4800 uncanny and 1200 raps for the weap.

    At a generous 5 drops per Niv run that's somewhere north of 2000 runs..or about two years .

    Guess what will be going on sale in the next few weeks at around 100 gold a pop...Summerwind Tokens (you read it here first)..

    Oh and a laughed when i looked at the r8 reforge for existing R8 with pimped gears, gl getting those 400 chien stones...

    Ring engraving, seems like the only place to get the materials is out of the new packs..opened 130 of the new packs and got precisely one best, one diamond of tiger, rest tokens (from gold I had on dw server from a while ago), so don't cross your fingers on seeing decent rings anytime soon.

    Faction base doesn't apply to a lot of people as their faction doesn't have a base...

    New crazy stone is ok, 480k exp not to be sniffed at ( 0.2% at my level..)

    Order of Justice is 520k but guess what? You have to kill the party quest mobs so may as well party up and do a party quest while your there...

    Nice update but it's very obvious no one writing this game actually ever tries to play it.

    And PWI can't figure out why player population keeps dropping. Duh.... Oh Oh lets wave another carrot on a pole in front of their faces and see how many chase it.

    As far as the CS go at my current 101 level, if all I did was CS, it would take only 557.95 days to level.

    They still don't understand, that CORPORATIONS NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE TO GAIN A LOT AND STOP TRYING TO R/\PE EVERY NICKLE AND DIME OUT OF THEIR PLAYERS, IN CASH SHOP ITEMS AND COIN.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Yay, High APS classes continue to get rich off the expense of caster type classes.
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  • Aizza - Harshlands
    Aizza - Harshlands Posts: 719 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Funny china is balanced and PROFITS....ijs

    I played PW-MY for over three years. Everyone said they were balanced. But were you aware that you can openly vend your toon, or sell in WC, or even WC that you are 'new owner'? Many OPENLY logged up to 6 accounts on the average to do runs, talked about it in WC and the forum? (it was survivability - to keep up with the game)

    Did you know that the company partnered a gold-selling company, legally allowing the purchase of gold? That it was rumored the company that owned our game would ban accounts, and use them to bot for gold - which in turn was sold back to the gold sellers for players?

    Did you know that hacking, botting was not discouraged and was continually done, talked about - even out in the open? That the company R8ed some players to farm high level/rare mats to sell for gold? One GBA went for what 400mil+? Most of my veno books - the rare ones were 250-300mil. The purple horse 40mil (not sold in CS). No we did not get more quests/drops - we were almost FORCED to buy gold from their partner company to keep up.

    That getting R8 was virtually impossible unless you a gold farmer for the company, or spent thousands of dollars or farmed your butt off for years for reputation?

    That Hercules and Nix was released ONCE in 3+ years? That updated were far and few inbetween? They ran Valentine's greetings until June. The servers were unstable, the help was nonexistant and the forums were a continual mess.

    TW? Once three GM's entered a TW on the side of one guild and banned members from the other guild citing jump hacks. These were the power players and about 20 of them. Most left the game, and everyone was let back itno the game with it being 'non-founded' (not guilty of hacking/exploits).

    They unbalanced the game - to ensure people HAD to buy gold from them and in doing so - set off more botting, hacking, exploits, and duel-clienting JUST to try to keep up and equipped. Getting your 99 gear was a dream there...due to cost and drop rate.



    Yeah.. balanced... I'm pretty sure the same things are happening on the Chinese server. And PW-MY did not sell packs either. We all loved the game but honestly, it came down to - break rules or quit. There was no way to keep up with costs... w/o playing the game as everyone else did... and that.. is unbalanced.
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited November 2011
    things in myen cost a lot more because of an exploit back in 08, trillions of coins were duped and caused an unimaginable inflation; you can farm and sell ultimate substances for about 500k each.

    also, "gold" is rarely bought these days, so it's price is through the roof due to the little amount left.
  • ChiefZoltar - Heavens Tear
    ChiefZoltar - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    tbh, i am kinda happy with the fact you can't get it from wedding candies. It makes nirvana actually still farmable instead of providing everything through cash shopping.

    It's only a matter of time before Cannies and Raps come out in the CS.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It's only a matter of time before Cannies and Raps come out in the CS.

    Not really. This is one time when it's actually more profitable from PWI's point of view to keep Nirvana mats as being mostly farmable. The reason being is that current player mentality dictates that only players geared to a certain level gets to Nirvana squad with them. And how does 80-90% of the player base get their gear to that level ?

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  • Strife_son - Sanctuary
    Strife_son - Sanctuary Posts: 1,217 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It's only a matter of time before Cannies and Raps come out in the CS.

    They already are from packs O__o
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I guess I need to outsource my nirvana farming to cheap labour if I am to recast.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Where is my wedding candy trade b:cry
    That was actually reasonable for the benefit you get. This value is not.

    Awww I guess Aster is spending the next few days afking NPC-ing tokens b:surrender.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Awww I guess Aster is spending the next few days afking NPC-ing tokens b:surrender.

    It would only take my shops a few hours really... I'm still hoping that candy NPC is somewhere <_<
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    Zarni - Dreamweaver Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    This is actually one of the best decisions I've seen pwi make in a while.
    Farming nirvana enough to upgrade a r9 set will take a lot of time and work from many people and stimulate the in-game economy. Profits will be spread among a larger portion of the player-base, instead of a (semi) closed loop of cash shoppers and merchants.

    Sorry cash shoppers and merchants, you may have to wait longer or profit less, but in the long run you'll be happy if the game has more people playing consistently. The ability to simply swipe a credit card or afk most of the time in catshop to get endgame gear is discouraging people from actually playing the game. Adding benefits to doing more than just using the game as a chat room or e-peen measuring tool will extend the life of this game more than just putting in an easy way to right-click your way to god-mode (click pack>trade for candy>faceroll "noobs"=noobs leave>nothing left to faceroll>cash-shoppers leave=dead game).
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Meh, let's not forgot the people in PWCN intended R9 to take a year to get in the first place. But with the marketing team in the US, I'm sure in a few weeks they'll cave, and figure out a way to make it 10x easier. If I recall correctly, R9 was like 12B coin when it first came out. Then they made it 10x easier, trololol.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Just sell Uncanny and Rapture Crystals in the boutique. I'm sure everyone will be happy.
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    This is actually one of the best decisions I've seen pwi make in a while.
    Farming nirvana enough to upgrade a r9 set will take a lot of time and work from many people and stimulate the in-game economy. Profits will be spread among a larger portion of the player-base, instead of a (semi) closed loop of cash shoppers and merchants.

    Sorry cash shoppers and merchants, you may have to wait longer or profit less

    LOL...oh really. b:laugh

    Sorry but just who the hell do you think is going to bother to try and farm ALL 1200 cannys ? b:shocked

    Maybe like 1% of the player base ?

    It's going to be the same merchants and their catshops who are going to be making a killing with this new deal since their business is basically buying and selling. Most players will farm some, then end up getting frustrated from impatience and buy from merchants who have been busily buying cannys and raps from all the casual and dedicated farmers out there... to sell to you at a higher price of course. b:bye
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    victor1337 wrote: »
    Turns out they stripped wedding candies out of the formula, so you need 1200 uncanny and 300 raptures for each piece of armor and 4800 uncanny and 1200 raps for the weap.
    had a gut feeling about that wedding candy so i didnt stock up on candy nor tokens.... boy am i GLAD.

    someone do the math how much those uncanny and raps cost ;d its morning and math is bad for mornings lol

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    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    had a gut feeling about that wedding candy so i didnt stock up on candy nor tokens.... boy am i GLAD.

    someone do the math how much those uncanny and raps cost ;d its morning and math is bad for mornings lol


    Somewhere around 5.4billion for the cannies and 4.3billion for the raptures.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Meh, let's not forgot the people in PWCN intended R9 to take a year to get in the first place. But with the marketing team in the US, I'm sure in a few weeks they'll cave, and figure out a way to make it 10x easier. If I recall correctly, R9 was like 12B coin when it first came out. Then they made it 10x easier, trololol.

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  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    had a gut feeling about that wedding candy so i didnt stock up on candy nor tokens.... boy am i GLAD.

    someone do the math how much those uncanny and raps cost ;d its morning and math is bad for mornings lol


    lemme see if uncanny is about 450k (example price) rap maybe 1.3mil(example probably higher)

    10800 * 450k= 4,860,000,000

    2700 * 1.3mil=3,510,000,000

    =8,370,000,000 coins probably more or less, doesn't really matter because its still a lot lol
    yea to the person getting this good luck with that lol
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    lemme see if uncanny is about 450k (example price) rap maybe 1.3mil(example probably higher)

    10800 * 450k= 4,860,000,000

    2700 * 1.3mil=3,510,000,000

    =8,370,000,000 coins probably more or less, doesn't really matter because its still a lot lol
    yea to the person getting this good luck with that lol

    Pretty sure me and dozens (note the plural) of others easily spent more then 8 bil coins on their past/present gear. Even if the price doesn't come down... its only a matter of time before someone gets off their *** and buy it.
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  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Pretty sure me and dozens (note the plural) of others easily spent more then 8 bil coins on their past/present gear. Even if the price doesn't come down... its only a matter of time before someone gets off their *** and buy it.

    lol yea but dozens being a huge minority in this game, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people got this. Hell im still surprised that there are so many rank 9 in this games and lvl 105 seekers and mystics b:laugh
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    pwi **** the playerbase over again? gtfo