Harpy Wraith

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Ikarium - Dreamweaver
Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
The killing of Harpy Wraith does not count for the Demon quest that requires its death. I always knew that, but never why.
In another topic it was mentioned it was a non-existant version of Harpy Wraith that was required. Which prompted me to go to the database and look it up.

Sure enough, there's 2 identical Harpy Wraith mobs. The one that does not exist seems to be identical to the one that does, but has an additional drop table.

Harpy Wraith

Unimplemented Harpy Wraith

So I realize its not actually in the game, and probably never will be and that this is probably old news to some (like I said I always knew it didn't count, but an unimplemented Harpy is news to me). What I am curious about however, is the two of them. Presumably they did both exist in an older version of PW. So does anyone know? Was there at one time 2 Harpy Wraiths floating around the world map? Or was the non-existant one in an instance?

No, its not the start of a campaign to get it implemented :P Just curiousity as to why it never was implemented.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited October 2011
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    ... And what makes you think anyone here would know?

    Also, the assumption that it was implemented at some point in the game isn't exactly valid, as the PWDB has a lot of items that were never implemented in any proper version of the game. Obviously, anything can happen on a private server.
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  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
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    Because there are players who have played on older versions of PW, PW-CN, and migrated here and some are well versed in PW's history. So somene may know what/where the other Harpy was back then.

    **
    And yeah, I am assuming it was. Simply because its part of a quest chain, a chain that has been part of PWI since day1 as far as I know. That's why I was asking, if anyone knows if it was or not on some older version.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
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    Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Because there are players who have played on older versions of PW, PW-CN, and migrated here and some are well versed in PW's history. So somene may know what/where the other Harpy was back then.

    But that has the premise that the unimplemented Harpy Wraith was ever in the game. Not to mention that if it was, you get a secondary premise of the developers telling the players why it was taken out.

    And that's two pretty preposterous premises you got there.
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  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited October 2011
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    Can't even ask a simple question on this forum.

    I do not know if it was. I am asking a simple question because I was curious if anyone knew.
    fb109's we taken out. Is it a big mystery as to why? No. level cap lowered and maps recycled into other instances. You don't need a developer to tell you that. There's various other things not implemented that we know existed in previous versions, and other stuff that has never been.
  • GaurdianMira - Archosaur
    GaurdianMira - Archosaur Posts: 104 Arc User
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ... And what makes you think anyone here would know?

    Also, the assumption that it was implemented at some point in the game isn't exactly valid, as the PWDB has a lot of items that were never implemented in any proper version of the game. Obviously, anything can happen on a private server.

    Fail, take your rage elsewhere OP asked a simple question which only requires a simple answer such as=> no the second harpy has never been implemented to my knowledge.

    BTW same for me but I'm just a rookyb:bye
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited October 2011
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    Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Can't even ask a simple question on this forum.

    I do not know if it was. I am asking a simple question because I was curious if anyone knew.
    fb109's we taken out. Is it a big mystery as to why? No. level cap lowered and maps recycled into other instances. You don't need a developer to tell you that. There's various other things not implemented that we know existed in previous versions, and other stuff that has never been.

    Simple questions are troll food here.

    Wait...

    EVERYTHING is troll food here. b:cute
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
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    GaurdianMira - Archosaur wrote: »
    Fail, take your rage elsewhere OP asked a simple question which only requires a simple answer such as=> no the second harpy has never been implemented to my knowledge.

    BTW same for me but I'm just a rookyb:bye

    Um... I'm not raging.

    All I see is a question that is essentially pointless. If the Harpy Wraith never existed, then that's that, end of line. If it did, then it was taken out for some reason. The actual reason doesn't even matter, as it was still taken out, end of line again.

    So essentially the topic is asking a question that does not contribute to anything but idle curiousity. Might as well go check out paint drying, that'll be just about as useful.

    Wait, was it because I used the word "preposterous"?

    b:cute
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  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So essentially the topic is asking a question that does not contribute to anything but idle curiousity. Might as well go check out paint drying, that'll be just about as useful.
    Did I not state that more than once? I was just curious? Clearly its more interesting than paint drying as you keep replying to it :P
    I'm sorry for starting a topic thats not APS/SP/Sin/Cashshop QQ, and wondering about if anyone knew the history of this quest/mob.
  • Celestyna - Heavens Tear
    Celestyna - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
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    Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Did I not state that more than once? I was just curious? Clearly its more interesting than paint drying as you keep replying to it :P
    I'm sorry for starting a topic thats not APS/SP/Sin/Cashshop QQ, and wondering about if anyone knew the history of this quest/mob.

    Ignore the trolls, as hard as that is here.
    I for one am refreshed to see a "normal" thread here for once. I unfortunatly can not answer your question though
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  • slywon
    slywon Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
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    OP - Good question and IDK. However, I wanted to reassure you that there are plenty of reasonable people that read questions like this and when they don't know the answer, they simply don't respond.

    Unfortunately you've asked a question that has offended our question police. The best course here is to remain still and wait until someone else asks a question in another post.
  • Aranarwa - Heavens Tear
    Aranarwa - Heavens Tear Posts: 83 Arc User
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    Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No, its not the start of a campaign to get it implemented :P Just curiousity as to why it never was implemented.

    As a player of one of the older versions of PW (played PW-MY from closed-beta till early 2009), I think I can safely say: the quest-Harpy has never been implemented in the game.

    As to why it never was implemented, I do not know.....

    One would need to be able to look into the minds of all the devs who ever worked on this game, to find the answer. b:surrender
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  • viktorbg
    viktorbg Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
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    @Aranarwa, sorry but you're wrong. Killed Harpy few times on Oracle server (pw-my) and it worked (back then we needed like 4-5 parties to kill that thing....)
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited October 2011
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    It was probably some dev that didn't know what he was doing. The quest version was actually created first since the one in the world has a higher ID number. Maybe when it came time to populate the world with all the mobs, a timid dev was unsure how to implement the roaming behavior so he created a copy of Harpy to test things out and didn't realize harpy was actually a quest boss.
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  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Um... I'm not raging.

    All I see is a question that is essentially pointless. If the Harpy Wraith never existed, then that's that, end of line. If it did, then it was taken out for some reason. The actual reason doesn't even matter, as it was still taken out, end of line again.

    So essentially the topic is asking a question that does not contribute to anything but idle curiousity. Might as well go check out paint drying, that'll be just about as useful.
    Wow. I hope you never have kids.

    Child: "Daddy, why is the sky blue?"

    Olbaze: "I'm sorry child, your question is essentially pointless. If the sky was not blue, then it would simply be some other color. However it is blue, so knowing why doesn't matter because it will still be blue. Now stop bothering me with your inane questions and get back to watching paint dry or something equally useful."

    Child: b:cry

    You know, some people don't see curiosity as a bad thing.

    ...Anyways, it should be noted that when GMs spawned Harpy Wraith for the Perfect World International Championship (PWIC) here on PWI, they actually spawned the version of Harpy Wraith needed for the quest, so a few people here have actually completed that quest.
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  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
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    Sangodoc wrote: »

    ...Anyways, it should be noted that when GMs spawned Harpy Wraith for the Perfect World International Championship (PWIC) here on PWI, they actually spawned the version of Harpy Wraith needed for the quest, so a few people here have actually completed that quest.


    Now that's too funny, thanks for making me laugh

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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited November 2011
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    ^ oh so go to a gm event that never happens anymore u get a quest done..... and outta your log.. little unfair don't ya think? lol

    Here's a wild idea..... how bout asking the devs to finish the game and put it in? ROFL
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
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    Sangodoc wrote: »
    Wow. I hope you never have kids.

    Child: "Daddy, why is the sky blue?"

    Olbaze: "I'm sorry child, your question is essentially pointless. If the sky was not blue, then it would simply be some other color. However it is blue, so knowing why doesn't matter because it will still be blue. Now stop bothering me with your inane questions and get back to watching paint dry or something equally useful."

    Child: b:cry

    That was beautiful
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
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    Maybe it's a boss in the new quest chains?
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
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    Sangodoc wrote: »
    Wow. I hope you never have kids.

    Child: "Daddy, why is the sky blue?"

    Olbaze: "I'm sorry child, your question is essentially pointless. If the sky was not blue, then it would simply be some other color. However it is blue, so knowing why doesn't matter because it will still be blue. Now stop bothering me with your inane questions and get back to eating lead-based paint chips, they should taste like candy."

    Child: b:dirty

    You know, some people don't see curiosity as a bad thing.

    ...Anyways, it should be noted that when GMs spawned Harpy Wraith for the Perfect World International Championship (PWIC) here on PWI, they actually spawned the version of Harpy Wraith needed for the quest, so a few people here have actually completed that quest.

    Uhhhh... Fixed.
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