What is a Seeker good for?

Amencat - Sanctuary
Amencat - Sanctuary Posts: 484 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Seeker
What makes him special? Why did we get another useless class? Barb is far better for tank, bm is far better for DD

Why did we get this class anyway?
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  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    We got this class to give you a class to TROLL. b:chuckle
  • Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    debuffs and aoe's \o/
    We're the only (HA) class that has a constant aoe :3 Also our aoe's deal more damage (and also elemental damage) then the ones of bm's, though we have less crowd control.

    Debuffs:
    /-10 attack and defense lvl for 3 minutes.
    /-20 attack lvls for 8 seconds
    /remove target's weapon attack for 6 seconds(though that's pvp only and a lvl 100 skill)
    /Metal or Physical skill damage received is increased by 30%. Lasts for 600 seconds(pve only)
    /critical strike rate for Wood and Water skills are increased by 30%. Lasts for 300 secondspve only)
    /critical strike rate for Fire and Earth skills are increased by 50%, the damage is increased by 100%. Lasts for 20 seconds(pve only)
    /transfer debuffs back to target
    /immobilizing and sealing effects

    and not to forget we have a lot of ranged skills :)

    The stuff I listed are lvl 10 skills btw, I'm too lazy to write down the effects for demon/sage...
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  • beforesun
    beforesun Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Yep a seeker is not useless.. Try some AoEing with other classes. They might have AoE skills but often they don't have the def/hp to survive the AoEing.. A seeker on the other hand can survive a bunch of mobs while doing a lot of dmg just having BP on him..
    Single target a seeker is not the best DD, and Tanking ok, Barb is better. But when it comes to AoE Seekers own every other class(talking about longer term, not throwing in one AoE)..
  • Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver
    Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver Posts: 441 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    debuffs and aoe's \o/
    We're the only (HA) class that has a constant aoe :3 Also our aoe's deal more damage (and also elemental damage) then the ones of bm's, though we have less crowd control.

    Debuffs:
    /-10 attack and defense lvl for 3 minutes.
    /-20 attack lvls for 8 seconds
    /remove target's weapon attack for 6 seconds(though that's pvp only and a lvl 100 skill)
    /Metal or Physical skill damage received is increased by 30%. Lasts for 600 seconds(pve only)
    /critical strike rate for Wood and Water skills are increased by 30%. Lasts for 300 secondspve only)
    /critical strike rate for Fire and Earth skills are increased by 50%, the damage is increased by 100%. Lasts for 20 seconds(pve only)
    /transfer debuffs back to target
    /immobilizing and sealing effects

    and not to forget we have a lot of ranged skills :)

    The stuff I listed are lvl 10 skills btw, I'm too lazy to write down the effects for demon/sage...

    b:victory approving on all that. seeker debuff FTW. but i'm adding something, we seeker can give a run for their money to barb when it comes to tanking. end game seeker can do the same tanking job as a barb without any problem b:pleased
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Amencat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What makes him special? Why did we get another useless class? Barb is far better for tank, bm is far better for DD

    Why did we get this class anyway?

    To people that are clueless on how to play a seeker, they are useless.
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  • Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver
    Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver Posts: 441 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »
    To people that are clueless on how to play a seeker, they are useless, should drop their seeker and gtfo

    added something in red b:chuckle
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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    People should stop power leveling a seeker and actually level it normally. If only they level the seeker from 1 - 100 normally in like a few months rather then weeks then they will see seeker is fun. Of course if you power it to 100 of course you will get bored fast and dismiss it.
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  • ItsAWolf - Archosaur
    ItsAWolf - Archosaur Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    People should stop power leveling a seeker and actually level it normally. If only they level the seeker from 1 - 100 normally in like a few months rather then weeks then they will see seeker is fun. Of course if you power it to 100 of course you will get bored fast and dismiss it.

    yeah, I've found it the most fun class for quest so far :) It's now level 80 and I really enjoy helping lower lvls do their bhs with it.
  • laloner
    laloner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'm somewhat surprised that ppl don't want seekers in squads for their defense debuffs. Maybe other ppl are missing something or I'm missing something but the numbers on seeker debuffs are great.

    As to tanking if you mean surviving seekers are great tanks. If you mean holding aggro then after lvl 90 they can't hold it against aps toons and before that they need vortex to reliably hold it. Giving seekers an aggro skill would help with the barb shortage. But I guess if you made them too much like barbs there would be no point.

    As to AOEs they are the best. Archer barrage is nice but they are squishy.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    seeker was far more exciting than my cleric when i leveled it.
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  • yangpo
    yangpo Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    We got this class to give you a class to TROLL. b:chuckle

    maybe it's true!

    buffs- bad buffs ( useless and Consumes 1 Mirage Celestone)

    Debuffs - useless

    Twilight Temple- useless


    Palace of Nirvana- useless


    PVP/Pk/Tw - not shine


    single utility for AoE ( Frost-City and phoenix valley) ( Hyper EXP b:chuckle)
  • Lienna - Momaganon
    Lienna - Momaganon Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    People should stop power leveling a seeker and actually level it normally. If only they level the seeker from 1 - 100 normally in like a few months rather then weeks then they will see seeker is fun. Of course if you power it to 100 of course you will get bored fast and dismiss it.

    +100

    Thats what i did, and learned how to play a seeker.. found out the strengths and weaknesses.
  • Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    People should stop power leveling a seeker and actually level it normally. If only they level the seeker from 1 - 100 normally in like a few months rather then weeks then they will see seeker is fun. Of course if you power it to 100 of course you will get bored fast and dismiss it.

    Gotta agree with you on this one ^^
    What I miss when I lvl a toon too quickly is the so called "panic-buttons" those skills that make you live just a little longer and might save your life :3
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  • AWildPokemon - Raging Tide
    AWildPokemon - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    yangpo wrote: »
    maybe it's true!

    buffs- bad buffs ( useless and Consumes 1 Mirage Celestone)

    Debuffs - useless

    Twilight Temple- useless


    Palace of Nirvana- useless


    PVP/Pk/Tw - not shine


    single utility for AoE ( Frost-City and phoenix valley) ( Hyper EXP b:chuckle)

    buffs useless? go check how much it costs you to get +5 def lvls without a seeker buff

    useless in TT? .. yes. yes we are b:surrender

    the group of friends i run nirvana with drop every boss in 1 spark, even non hf bosses ( ty to my quid ) so i would say it has his uses there

    in pk a good seeker has great odds against every non r9 class it just needs more thinking than an aps class... and does in tw pretty well against an equally geared faction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQrH9lReglk
  • Deadlife - Lost City
    Deadlife - Lost City Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    yangpo wrote: »
    PVP/Pk/Tw - not shine

    they dont shine cause they cant compete with rank 9s cause they have no rank 9 gear yet. I have no problem holding my own with similarly geared r8 and less 1v1s
  • SoulPlay - Heavens Tear
    SoulPlay - Heavens Tear Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    get a rank 8 +5 seeker and go fight a r9 +10 barb yes one that uses fists.

    pk if u tank a spark on any class ur a fail

    1 mirages for a death and log out proof buff ??? idiots if u dont like this buff

    quid pro quo send a hf back at a bm and watch as u throw a heart shatter (example)

    50% p def reduction on any mob granted should be castable on player to

    the reason ppl dont want them in squad, cause its aps or move on

    3 anti stuns so yes yap on about stun lock

    will easy hit over 15k on players without rank 9 and without mastery

    multi AoE skills

    a fake bm ? bms aoes suck hard compared and they dont use magic or range

    the ability to stun lock if the player is skilled

    possible 4.00 AoE for 12 seconds dealing both magic and phys

    longest ranged stun in game 38 metres saged

    att and def lvl debuffs

    the list goes on
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    We are good for proving everyone wrong. :)

    And I'm retired, yet I continue to inspire people to try it!
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    We are good for proving everyone wrong. :)

    And I'm retired, yet I continue to inspire people to try it!

    Same here i kind of retired lol. Although i log on now and again, but really i have stopepd playing. Plus side is much easier to focus on my work.
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  • Vorbane - Harshlands
    Vorbane - Harshlands Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    AWildPokemon - Raging Tide wrote: »
    buffs useless? go check how much it costs you to get +5 def lvls without a seeker buff

    useless in TT? .. yes. yes we are b:surrender

    the group of friends i run nirvana with drop every boss in 1 spark, even non hf bosses ( ty to my quid ) so i would say it has his uses there

    in pk a good seeker has great odds against every non r9 class it just needs more thinking than an aps class... and does in tw pretty well against an equally geared faction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQrH9lReglk

    That faction was equal;ly geared?

    In my opinion Seeker is OK. Obviously, we arent very useful in the normal sense, but we really shine in AoEs, which makes us very good at SFC, GV etc.

    In TW, we are mostly a support damage role. As you can see in this guys video, our damage is pretty bad. But hes mostly locking people in palce and AoEing when he can, which is basically all we are good for in TW XD
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  • AWildPokemon - Raging Tide
    AWildPokemon - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    we were pretty close to them gear wise, they did have the advantage though ( more r9's, more nirv/ OP r8's etc) my weapon was +7 or so on that vid
  • VitalityX - Lost City
    VitalityX - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Amencat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What makes him special? Why did we get another useless class? Barb is far better for tank, bm is far better for DD

    Why did we get this class anyway?

    "What is a Mystic good for? Why did we get another useless class? Cleric is far better for heals, Veno is better for pet tanking."

    Seriously though, "What are Seekers good for?" Just take everything said above me about AoE's and debuffs.
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  • yangpo
    yangpo Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    What is a Seeker good for?


    to up- Frost-City and phoenix valley

    to dance ( level 100+)b:chuckle
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    AWildPokemon - Raging Tide wrote: »
    we were pretty close to them gear wise, they did have the advantage though ( more r9's, more nirv/ OP r8's etc) my weapon was +7 or so on that vid

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