why QQ about SP?

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver

i woke up in the morning (and its not friday b:avoid) and read some threads.
then i wondered : why are there so many ppl saying :

- i wont charge till SP is fixed
- i wont play till SP is fixed
- SP is pvp now so i quit

i understand it can be a bit annoying to get killed but, is that the main reason? lol
i mean, if ur low lvl doing quests, those quests dont take that long. i lvled 2 chars questing (well 2nd one was only half >.> ) and quests in SP werent taking a week there are only a few, should be done in a few hours max, even if being killed (on that point if u were "polite" enough u could ask a high lvl to protect u >.> ) . SP wasnt even a place to grind anyway

Bearish - Sanctuary

because no pk drops when pking in SP

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Let's go back to QQing about APS, and even nixes then.

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Why you QQ about SP QQ ? b:chuckle

Nightsfangs - Archosaur

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i woke up in the morning (and its not friday b:avoid) and read some threads.
then i wondered : why are there so many ppl saying :

- i wont charge till SP is fixed
- i wont play till SP is fixed
- SP is pvp now so i quit

i understand it can be a bit annoying to get killed but, is that the main reason? lol
i mean, if ur low lvl doing quests, those quests dont take that long. i lvled 2 chars questing (well 2nd one was only half >.> ) and quests in SP werent taking a week there are only a few, should be done in a few hours max, even if being killed (on that point if u were "polite" enough u could ask a high lvl to protect u >.> ) . SP wasnt even a place to grind anyway

I'm not QQing for SP but I do agree there should be a PK arena better than make an instance PK enabled cause PWI is bored of making one, it's not that hard. SP isn't the best option for PK arena anyways.

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary

Nightsfangs - Archosaur wrote: »

I'm not QQing for SP but I do agree there should be a PK arena better than make an instance PK enabled cause PWI is bored of making one, it's not that hard. SP isn't the best option for PK arena anyways.

You been alseep that long you didn't see AAAAAALLL the QQ theads/polls and rage threads?

buddy, re-read some of those threads and you'll see "why" there's QQ on so many lvl's from so many people. people who are for and against the change.

Nightsfangs - Archosaur

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »

You been alseep that long you didn't see AAAAAALLL the QQ theads/polls and rage threads?

buddy, re-read some of those threads and you'll see "why" there's QQ on so many lvl's from so many people. people who are for and against the change.

Yea I did read the threads, I also said I find it wrong,

I think we live in the same planet, but I might be wrong.

Yea a PK arena would help (tons of ppl requested a free of exp loss and items drop PK area),

but I clearly said I oppose the idea to be in SP (unless we don't speak the same english).

So,

why this rage attack?

Amencat - Sanctuary

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why you QQ about SP QQ ? b:chuckle

couse QQ itself is so QQ worth

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary

Nightsfangs - Archosaur wrote: »

Yea I did read the threads, I also said I find it wrong,

I think we live in the same planet, but I might be wrong.

Yea a PK arena would help (tons of ppl requested a free of exp loss and items drop PK area),

but I clearly said I oppose the idea to be in SP (unless we don't speak the same english).

So,

why this rage attack?

rage attack? No.
just being blunt with ya? yes.

I mean, everything you just said has already been said in all of those threads, hence why i told you to re-read the threads. It's all been covered, qq'ed about, raged about and thoroughly discussed.

besides... they are already reverting the open pvp... your point is rather... redundant.

*edit* ... only just saw the f** up from my part. nvm bub my first post i quoted the wrong bloody guy *rolls eyes* meant to quote the OP instead quoted you... meh... i was barely awake. My bad =.=

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

They say they are reverting it. It's not a hard fix and they could have implemented it in a small patch. We know this because they did it on the CN servers.

frankie is still ignoring my posts/PM's about this and won't respond.

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why you QQ about SP QQ ? b:chuckle

i didnt know that asking a question and start a discusion is QQing. unless u use a secret QQ meaning

Allynna_ - Dreamweaver

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

They say they are reverting it. It's not a hard fix and they could have implemented it in a small patch. We know this because they did it on the CN servers.

frankie is still ignoring my posts/PM's about this and won't respond.

What Happens in China Patches ----(3 Months later)----> What we get.

Sadly enough for some reason it takes 2-5 months on average for Chinese patches to get shipped out and translated for us.

Pretty Sure PWI could afford there own Devs on this side of the World, and patch the game them selves to fit our version of the game but no. . .

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

Allynna_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What Happens in China Patches ----(3 Months later)----> What we get.

Sadly enough for some reason it takes 2-5 months on average for Chinese patches to get shipped out and translated for us.

Pretty Sure PWI could afford there own Devs on this side of the World, and patch the game them selves to fit our version of the game but no. . .

Everyone must know that by now, but I think what is making people angry is that they went ahead and gave us a time by which we should have the patch, and that time has come and gone. But people should also be used to them failing to keep their word.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i woke up in the morning (and its not friday b:avoid) and read some threads.
then i wondered : why are there so many ppl saying :

- i wont charge till SP is fixed
- i wont play till SP is fixed
- SP is pvp now so i quit

i understand it can be a bit annoying to get killed but, is that the main reason? lol
i mean, if ur low lvl doing quests, those quests dont take that long. i lvled 2 chars questing (well 2nd one was only half >.> ) and quests in SP werent taking a week there are only a few, should be done in a few hours max, even if being killed (on that point if u were "polite" enough u could ask a high lvl to protect u >.> ) . SP wasnt even a place to grind anyway

With my alt CANNOT kill silverfrost, because of stupid PK. I'm waiting when it will be reverted.b:angry

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver

seeing ur lvl i would suggest ur in a faction with other lvl 100+. why not ask for an escort?

mcfreakie

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver wrote: »

seeing ur lvl i would suggest ur in a faction with other lvl 100+. why not ask for an escort?

Why would people NEED to ask for an escort on a PVE server? Why should we have to waste OUR time so some idiot can stroke his ePeen? Even if we do get an escort there is still a huge chance of not getting anything done but keep running back to SP. You have ZERO solutions but THANKS for keeping the topic nice and HOT.

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver

Amencat - Sanctuary wrote: »

couse QQ itself is so QQ worth

Quick, we need some people to QQ about this person's QQ about the SP QQ. *Looks around* Good job everyone b:thanks

mcfreakie wrote: »

Why would people NEED to ask for an escort on a PVE server? Why should we have to waste OUR time so some idiot can stroke his ePeen? Even if we do get an escort there is still a huge chance of not getting anything done but keep running back to SP. You have ZERO solutions but THANKS for keeping the topic nice and HOT.

I love the amount of solutions you gave, in fact i highlighted the number of suggestions you gave in your post b:chuckle

I think the same things whenever I see these SP PvP threads, "Apparently people in other servers are complete jerks, the SP in Dreamweaver has no problems like this". Seriously, there's a few people PvPing in the big center room and that's about it, no jerks camping for parties to come kill bosses, no one chasing down newbies, no 10 sins in stealth waiting for someone to walk by, you just fly over everyone and carry on your business.

No amount of complaining will get the patch here any faster, they are working on fixing the PvP thing and they realize that people really want it fixed, just try to deal with it until the patch hits, whether that's bringing a high-level with you, asking if you can have safe passage through the PvP area, or whatever else you can think of, just suck it up and deal til the patch hits because ranting about it on the forums is like shouting at a fireman trying to get him to put out the forest fire faster, he knows it's a problem you arent helping any by doing that.

mcfreakie

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Quick, we need some people to QQ about this person's QQ about the SP QQ. *Looks around* Good job everyone b:thanks



I love the amount of solutions you gave, in fact i highlighted the number of suggestions you gave in your post b:chuckle

I think the same things whenever I see these SP PvP threads, "Apparently people in other servers are complete jerks, the SP in Dreamweaver has no problems like this". Seriously, there's a few people PvPing in the big center room and that's about it, no jerks camping for parties to come kill bosses, no one chasing down newbies, no 10 sins in stealth waiting for someone to walk by, you just fly over everyone and carry on your business.

No amount of complaining will get the patch here any faster, they are working on fixing the PvP thing and they realize that people really want it fixed, just try to deal with it until the patch hits, whether that's bringing a high-level with you, asking if you can have safe passage through the PvP area, or whatever else you can think of, just suck it up and deal til the patch hits because ranting about it on the forums is like shouting at a fireman trying to get him to put out the forest fire faster, he knows it's a problem you arent helping any by doing that.

Im done giving solutions... 5 or more long threads you can read and find all the solutions you want to read. I high lighted what YOU should do personally... But thanks for keeping the topic HOT.


By the way in your ENTIRE rant... you didnt ONCE answer my questions.

Selak - Dreamweaver

Why do we still QQ about PK in SP?

Like my grandmother said,

Its the squeaky wheel which gets the oil.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

mcfreakie wrote: »

But thanks for keeping the topic HOT.

Mcfreakie this topic is not a piece of chicken, no you can not eat it, why are you talking about it like its a meal o.o

mcfreakie

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

Mcfreakie this topic is not a piece of chicken, no you can not eat it, why are you talking about it like its a meal o.o

Just for you... and thanks again for helping us out.

XTokenGirl - Lost City

People QQ, because that's what people do. QQ nix's flesh ream is broken. QQ aps makes pvp too imbalanced. QQ there is nothing to do after 10x. QQ cashshopping gives players too much of an advantage. QQ I'm mildly inconvenienced by some lowbies who get their kicks from pk'ing even lower lowbies.

...learn to deal with the changes implemented in the game. If you were here 3 years ago you would know that questing anywhere on the map got you pk'd by the lvl 9x nix/veno stalking your particular server... i.e. Hip, Cancer b:shocked

So now there is 4-5 places you try to avoid when lvl'ing b/c they are pk hot spots. Believe me, your game life is much easier now than it has ever been before. Personally, I think people should start hunting all the questing sites again ( assuming people actually quest now. ) If nothing else it teaches you how to be stealthy (or paranoid), and improves your reaction time... which becomes a useful skill later when you're a factor.

My point is, people will always cry about something... this is just the latest trend.

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear

^ As has been said to death, people who sign up for a pve server expect to have a choice wether or not to participate in pvp. This whole SP change completely ruins that freedom by putting this free pvp area in a high traffic cave for low level questing. The thing most probably wouldn't understand who come from pvp servers is that we didn't have to deal with arseholes running a muck in our business while we were questing as lowbies.

I tried a pvp server, Harshlands when it went online. I didn't like the way it was, so I came back here.

You could say that you have to deal with pvp in the Cube, or Dragon Temple Raider, but those are completely optional dungeons and you know what you're getting into when you run them. It's part of the challenge of those certain instances.

Perhaps if SP were a high level instance with high level mobs, no low level questing required, it would be ok. Somewhere like Cave of Sadistic Glee which has also been suggested as the replacement for the SP pvp would be an ideal place for it. There are some level 80 quests in there, as well as a few divine order quests, but overall it has very low traffic. Whenever I've been in there it's been more often than not, deserted.

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver

mcfreakie wrote: »

Im done giving solutions... 5 or more long threads you can read and find all the solutions you want to read. I high lighted what YOU should do personally... But thanks for keeping the topic HOT.


By the way in your ENTIRE rant... you didnt ONCE answer my questions.

Hey, no one forces you to post, and it really doesnt matter what you do to cope until the patch hits, I don't have any problems with SP so I really don't care when people like you get killed in there, I care when decent human beings die in there, but I don't think you fit that category.

As for your questions, I had hoped the answer was obvious enough that you could see the answer yourself, but apparently I overestimated your intelligence. Perfect World dun goofed, so calm your **** until they patch it

mcfreakie

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hey, no one forces you to post, and it really doesnt matter what you do to cope until the patch hits, I don't have any problems with SP so I really don't care when people like you get killed in there, I care when decent human beings die in there, but I don't think you fit that category.

As for your questions, I had hoped the answer was obvious enough that you could see the answer yourself, but apparently I overestimated your intelligence. Perfect World dun goofed, so calm your **** until they patch it

I you dont care whats going on in SP.... WHY THE F&CK are you here posting? You randomly go to threads that dont interest you to rant? You dont have enough to do in your own life you need to come comment on threads you have no interest? THIS IS THE BIGGER PROBLEM... people who have nothing to donate to the conversation other then they want to minimize anyones complaint just to stick their nose into something. Pull YOUR head out of YOUR *** and go do something constructive like you seem to think you want me to do. I have a complaint. Thats why I am here... you are doing NOTHING but causing problems.

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

^ As has been said to death, people who sign up for a pve server expect to have a choice wether or not to participate in pvp. This whole SP change completely ruins that freedom by putting this free pvp area in a high traffic cave for low level questing. The thing most probably wouldn't understand who come from pvp servers is that we didn't have to deal with arseholes running a muck in our business while we were questing as lowbies.

I tried a pvp server, Harshlands when it went online. I didn't like the way it was, so I came back here.

You could say that you have to deal with pvp in the Cube, or Dragon Temple Raider, but those are completely optional dungeons and you know what you're getting into when you run them. It's part of the challenge of those certain instances.

Perhaps if SP were a high level instance with high level mobs, no low level questing required, it would be ok. Somewhere like Cave of Sadistic Glee which has also been suggested as the replacement for the SP pvp would be an ideal place for it. There are some level 80 quests in there, as well as a few divine order quests, but overall it has very low traffic. Whenever I've been in there it's been more often than not, deserted.

No no and NO, again not Glee cave EITHER... use the god damn f'ing arena for what it's built for. ya Glee's deserted, SO IS SP till this **** was done.... they put this b.s. in Glee we won't be able to get our divines done, the bosses (yes alot of us DO our quests and KILL those bosses)..... seriously..... u all need to think b4 u give suggestions.b:surrender

And glee isnt' much farther from Lost as SP is from arch so i dont' think if this went there any of these griefers will have a prob going there to one shot lvl 80's with their rank 9 +12 ****

Not to mention certain lvls the mobs in glee drop better then ones outside, just like on the first OHT map. nice place to grind, esp in 2X.... have fun with that while getting shot in the ****

mcfreakie

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hey, no one forces you to post, and it really doesnt matter what you do to cope until the patch hits, I don't have any problems with SP so I really don't care when people like you get killed in there, I care when decent human beings die in there, but I don't think you fit that category.

As for your questions, I had hoped the answer was obvious enough that you could see the answer yourself, but apparently I overestimated your intelligence. Perfect World dun goofed, so calm your **** until they patch it

Its obvious cause you want to troll subjects you dont care about you dont come close to fitting decent let alone human being. You dont wanna see ME post... leave all posts about SP and you wont have to see. DUH!

ResiaTri - Heavens Tear

So you know my friend, Players always look for a reason to ***** about a game. I've heard of games where people ***** to make bosses weaker...and now I hear its to the point where its not funny. If players simply stop complaining after problems are fixed, the game will be better.

If you have a problem with bosses, Gear Up PROPERLY, etc.

Now, I have a problem about the SP, but, I don't really care, I haven't played very much in the past week.

Shasynn - Heavens Tear

nightsfangs - Archosaur wrote: »

i'm Not Qqing For Sp But I Do Agree There Should Be A Pk Arena Better Than Make An Instance Pk Enabled Cause Pwi Is Bored Of Making One, It's Not That Hard. Sp Isn't The Best Option For Pk Arena Anyways.

Sp It's the Most Wrong Place The Staff Can Choice For Pvp

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver

like it has been said, if ur getting killed over and over and over, then ur server sux, cause on DW ppl arent that jerk >.>

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear

Tallain_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No no and NO, again not Glee cave EITHER... use the god damn f'ing arena for what it's built for. ya Glee's deserted, SO IS SP till this **** was done.... they put this b.s. in Glee we won't be able to get our divines done, the bosses (yes alot of us DO our quests and KILL those bosses)..... seriously..... u all need to think b4 u give suggestions.b:surrender

And glee isnt' much farther from Lost as SP is from arch so i dont' think if this went there any of these griefers will have a prob going there to one shot lvl 80's with their rank 9 +12 ****

Not to mention certain lvls the mobs in glee drop better then ones outside, just like on the first OHT map. nice place to grind, esp in 2X.... have fun with that while getting shot in the ****

Lol I wasn't the first one to suggest it. And yes I'm one of the few people who does my quests. I'm just trying to think of alternatives. I tried the PvP arena before it was closed, and it can be quite fun but... the process it takes to just start it, is rather time consuming. There should be a free for all instance that is up, where you could go 24/7 like any other instance (like a copy of Glee or something) without having to go through a bunch of setup nonsense. My guildmates and I had planned to use the arena as a practice ground but it's quite annoying... that and from what I remember, you have a tiny box to run around in which isn't really that "realistic" lol...

And what about a TW practice map? Something like any FB cave instance, you have one ofr your faction to go practice at or something along those lines.

There are numerous possibilities, it just seems like the guys over in China are too lazy to come up with something new, so they tried tacking it onto an already existing instance (quite possibly the most unwise location I might add...).